1test

[eelkered]

if i take a 1test, should i take andro-100 poppers? it has 4-ad, 4-ad-ec, nor-4-ad, and a1-e. i i did not know if it was a safe mix, should i take 6-oxo as well or after im done with the test?

[jack hust]

i moved this for ya to the supplement fourm

[Speedracer59]

That is made by pinnical right?

[eelkered]

yah its by pinnacle. any suggestions?

[NPursuit]

Sorry but you are too young for PHs and steroids.

[eelkered]

Originally posted by NPursuit
Sorry but you are too young for PHs and steroids.

my questions wasnt on ethics, im only asking for advice on what is good to take, im not taking anything illegal, im taking t-bomb and andro poppers, you have got to be 18 to take both, since i am of age how can you say im to young?

[jstrong20]

He's saying your too young because at 18 your bones are probably not fully grown. If you take steroids or prohormones it can make the growth plates close. Plus, if your only 18 your hormone levels are still really high anyway. Also you probably haven't been training that long and most feel you should have a few years under your belt before starting steroids. Anyway, if your going to do it then do it right. First get rid of the t-bombs and andro poppers because its waisting your money. 1-test doesn't work well oraly unless it is methylated. So I'd suggest either getting some transdermal 1-test or do it my favorite way wich is injecting and stack it with some 4-ad. As for the methyl1-test it is some really powerful stuff so it would probably be best to use one of the other options.

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by jstrong20
He's saying your too young because at 18 your bones are probably not fully grown. If you take steroids or prohormones it can make the growth plates close. Plus, if your only 18 your hormone levels are still really high anyway. Also you probably haven't been training that long and most feel you should have a few years under your belt before starting steroids.

Exactly. Just trying to help you out. You are a test factory right now don't go screwing it up. Wait till you are 21. Spend the next couple of years researching PHs and gear while you work on a better diet and training. Then when you do start a cycle you will blow up.

[Speedracer59]

In my experiances pennical stuff sucks ass and is over priced. My advise to you would be get a qulaity protien and put together a good diet. As far as other supps try some creatine (prolab, ultimate, anything creapure) dextrose, Multi-vitamin. You should get pretty good results from just that. In a year or so you may want to give 1 test a try. If you are going to do somthing go with t-1 by BDC nutrition. It is a milder transdermal. Other good transdermals include s1+ and t-1 pro.I would also have somthing better than 6 oxo on hand( nolvadex,clomid)

[Dumbdude]

correct me if im wrong but nolvadex, clomid are prescription required? Oh yea that stuff about bones not being grown all the way or whatever is bullshit. The reason is indeed like they said, your test. is high enough to see gains at that age, if you wana take s1+ or some thing... is say go for it. I am 19, been training for 2years and just started my PH cycle. Just make sure you read a ton.

[Dumbdude]

Originally posted by NPursuit
Sorry but you are too young for PHs and steroids.

Steroids i will agree with, PHs.... no, aslong as they have researched it and have lifting experiance... i see no harm.

[NPursuit]

Originally posted by Dumbdude
Steroids i will agree with, PHs.... no, aslong as they have researched it and have lifting experiance... i see no harm.

So because they are legal they won't mess you up as much right? Thanks for clearing that up

[lxorl]

Steroids are safer than PH I believe..... just not legal.
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Originally posted by Dumbdude
Steroids i will agree with, PHs.... no, aslong as they have researched it and have lifting experiance... i see no harm.

[Speedracer59]

Originally posted by Dumbdude
correct me if im wrong but nolvadex, clomid are prescription required?

Not for reasearch purposes.

[dg806]

There is certainly better options out there. But like NPursuit said, you really don't need then and may do more harm than good.