Ketotifen and Clen?

[rnixon]

Re: Ketotifen and Clen?

no hunger or groggy for me either. way better on me than benadryl for my allergies ever was

Ordered some. so guns 1 mg every night should be plenty hey?
Thanks

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[guns01]

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no hunger or groggy for me either. way better on me than benadryl for my allergies ever was

[sofargone561]

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I didnt notice in increase in apatite but I am sure some people will.
I take the keto when i am going to go lay down in bed. It usually only makes me groggy for about 20-30 minutes in the AM. once I am up and moving around it goes away.

[chemicallyengineered]

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Keto also increases appetite which is a double edged sword if your trying to loose fat. For me keto made me groggy as hell the next day.

[sofargone561]

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Yeah from what I have read its not even worth taking. I was looking into that and thats actually how i found the information on Keto.

[guns01]

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Benedryl from the research I have read will not do anything. Some people shake really bad on clen i Only seem to shake the first coupe days i took it and I have never shaken again after that even when taking keto.

T3 i cannot comment about i have done it, it seems to risky to me.

I will say however that I love clen with keto, I took 1mg of keto everynight before bed and 60mcg of clen a day. I dont think i will ever run clen without keto again. The fact that I can stay at a lower dose really makes me feel more comfortable.

benedryl will clear the beta receptors mildly and is far less effective then keto. it does help but very very little

[sofargone561]

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Benedryl from the research I have read will not do anything. Some people shake really bad on clen i Only seem to shake the first coupe days i took it and I have never shaken again after that even when taking keto.

T3 i cannot comment about i have done it, it seems to risky to me.

I will say however that I love clen with keto, I took 1mg of keto everynight before bed and 60mcg of clen a day. I dont think i will ever run clen without keto again. The fact that I can stay at a lower dose really makes me feel more comfortable.

[guns01]

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I am thinking of trying clen with t-3 but could never stand the shakiness of clen side effects . I can remember at times trying to write something and my hand all shaky . What about keto or benedryl after a t-3 cycle ? It's supposed to clean out receptors and how important is this ?

it will have no effect on any other receptors other than the beta ones, mainly beta 3 and minorly beta 2. t4 and t3 are different mechanisms of action in your body. on a side note if you shake on a low dose of clen adding in keto is going to make you continue to shake at that low dose because it prevents you from adapting to it

[roidboy175]

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I am thinking of trying clen with t-3 but could never stand the shakiness of clen side effects . I can remember at times trying to write something and my hand all shaky . What about keto or benedryl after a t-3 cycle ? It's supposed to clean out receptors and how important is this ?

[rnixon]

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So trying this

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[jandkk24]

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Clen jacked me up one time i almost puked in the gym. I took a small dose too. My wife though is like fuck it i run 50 no problem. i think i took like 25. She thinks shes so cool. I might try it out though with some t3 and keto if i am ever to compete. seems like injury after injury prevent that though lol.

[sensitivenips]

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nice thread, just learned something about keto. very cool, i was hesitant about utilizing clen again but may give it a go being that i can maintain a small dose.

[sofargone561]

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I am going to order some keto nexct week and give it a short run and try it out.

[guns01]

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Yeah thats all im looking for im not looking for scientific just curious I dont want to hurt myself. I think I may try to run it out for 4 weeks and see how it goes. I would not start out trying to run 8-10 weeks.
Thanks brother.

haha, i would never make that kind of suggestion to anyone anyway. me doing it was due to having to compete short notice so i had to ramp up quick with no breaks. i kept an eye on everything though to make sure nothing was running to wacky to jack up my heart though.

[sofargone561]

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Yeah thats all im looking for im not looking for scientific just curious I dont want to hurt myself. I think I may try to run it out for 4 weeks and see how it goes. I would not start out trying to run 8-10 weeks.
Thanks brother.