TweetI would have to use a Test with Tren. Tren will shut you down pretty hard.

TweetRun it with test if you do. Also alot of ppl get night sweats well I get all effing day sweating my azz off sweats so if your like me im pretty sure the thermogenic effects might be something to pay attention to. I've never run clen so im not sure how much it effects your body temperature tho. Maybe worth a try.

TweetNight sweats, and yes run it with test. Plus it has caused many people that is prone to gyno have sore nipples and lumps. So just have some stuff on hand when you do this cycle. It is good stuff. You will see some lean mass from it. But the shots hurt, or has me every time.

Tweettren w/test only....

TweetIf you are a beginner, I would hold off on tren and try some others. No sense in jumping straight into the most powerful steroid when you still have, deca, winstrol, primo, eq, etc..

If you do decide to use tren, Id reccomend using ace at 50-100 mg eod and see how you respond to it. If all goes well, then you can raise your dose. You will also want to stack with test, just like anything else.

Tweetclen,prop,winny,mast give those a shot if ya want to cut up lose weight or what ever your trying to acheive

Tweetthanks guys, i wanted some feedback from all of you. The only reason i do not want to try Deca is from some of the things I have heard about it doing to the body negatively, i love those good times with the lady friends and i don't wanna hinder that if possible and I still can't get my hands on HCG either! Winny, i might try that. Fuzo, i am trying to lean out, i want to maintain the muscle i acheived from my test cycle but cut off all the body fat I can before going on my next test cycle. is there something i can take that i do not need to PCT after using besides Clen?

TweetAt least get yourself some clomid or something. Its not that expensive and extreme peptides stocks It. I wouldn't worry about deca as long as you run it with test. Alot of compounds shut you down hard like deca just use a test base while your on and have pct ready and you should be fine.

TweetBut your probably not gonna want deca in your cutting cycle anyways. Unless you have joint issues or something

Tweetwell i am not currently taking anything but clen, ISO 100 protein, fish oil and Taurine right now and i have jumped cardio up a bunch and doing high count reps in the weights department. I don't feel as if i am gonna get my BF% down low enough for me to be satisfied before i start my next cycle. This is some hard azz, dedicated work and a long process for me, i am just impatient and want results faster. i think i have mentioned my impatients before and it is something i should focus more on fixing that anything. Thanks for the feedback guys, keep it coming.

TweetPrimo/Clen=excellent results..winstrol too, but if you tend to get joint pain, especially if your dryin out..of course drink plenty of fluids. Primo and clen work very well together though, but being your a guy, you would have to take at least 500mg per wk or maybe more..you can use it twice a wk, divided into two injects..they used to make an inject-able yohimbine/clen was called Helios i think..perhaps i have the name wrong, but i havent been able to find it anywhere..? You injected it sub-q and fantastic results for cutting..

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Primo/Clen=excellent results..winstrol too, but if you tend to get joint pain, especially if your dryin out..of course drink plenty of fluids. Primo and clen work very well together though, but being your a guy, you would have to take at least 500mg per wk or maybe more..you can use it twice a wk, divided into two injects..they used to make an inject-able yohimbine/clen was called Helios i think..perhaps i have the name wrong, but i havent been able to find it anywhere..? You injected it sub-q and fantastic results for cutting..

You have the name correct- There is a UG around one of these boards that has it on his list as we speak, Genxxl used to have it, maybe the new site will as well.

Tweetbut if I start running Winstrol now i will have to prolong my next cycle wouldn't I? I want to start my next cycle in September.