Tweeti don't disagree either skar. he will find out real quick if his training and diet are in check. if he takes a low dose and doesn't gain then he defiantly isn't eating enough.

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Originally Posted by lgtymlftr

Your discussion has helped quite a bit. It's definately got me thinking. I'm going to do what I can with what I got. Over the past few weeks I've been attacking the diet and training. I am going to hit a P/L routine for 3 mo and see what I can do. Im not a guy of big stature and tend to break down alot...shoulder from heavy bench, thoracic from heavy squats, then I get weak due to pain/inhibition. Sucks ass, but Im willing to give it another shot and see what happens. I dont wanna do a cycle if it doesnt work. I want a jump start so I can start gainin'. It'll give me some time to think about it. I'm at point in my life where I got some goals that I havent achieved and it pisses me off that Im workin my body into the ground and get nothing from it, you know what I mean? Thanks guys.

Glad to hear bro! You will definately like your decision!! PL-ing is definatly the fastest way to build muscle as well.... Keep eating more, try and gains ome B/F sounds like u're just not eating enough. Keep liftig heavy.. great choice... once u start gaining naturally than hit up some test