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      Anderson Silva’s jiu jitsu coach says his fighter came back to his corner after the first round complaining of a “broken rib”. Ramon Lemos also told Tatame that he does not expect Anderson to return to fighting until around March 2011.

      “After the first round he said he broke his ribs. He said told me he could not breath because of the rib. I told him to forget the rib and work the movement of legs and he would get the triangle… After the fight he went to the hospital and did an x-ray and the doctor said he did not break it, it was just a crack,” he said.

      “Anderson is expected to return in February or March. We have not talked, but he has to take care of injuries, he fought twice last year and had an operation on his elbow. This year he made two more fights and now with this rib injury ... He is no longer a boy, he is 34 years old.”

      Lemos added that the fight “was worthy of a champion. Whoever thinks Anderson is only sharp in the stand-up now has to more careful when taking him down… on the floor he is increasingly dangerous!”

      Anderson took a hammering for several rounds in the headline bout of UFC 117but managed to submit Chael Sonnen with a triangle just two minutes before the end of the fight. Sonnen was comfortably ahead on points at the time.
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      How did Anderson Silva submit Chael Sonnen?

      For Sonnen and those close to him, that question will linger at least until the next time he gets another crack at the UFC middleweight championship. If, that is, he gets one.

      "For 23 minutes he didn't get triangled," said veteran fighter and trainer Matt Lindland, who worked Sonnen's corner during the fight Saturday in Oakland. "For one second he did. You've got to stay focused for 25 minutes, not 23. That's all it was."

      Sonnen has now tapped out five times in his career when confronted with the triangle/armbar position, raising questions not only about his ability to maintain focus throughout the duration of a fight, but also his technical proficiency when it comes to submission application and defense.

      It was among the funnier lines Sonnen tossed out. He doesn't train jiu-jitsu, he said, because Republicans don't fight from their back with another man between their legs. But was he serious? Was it possible one of the best fighters in the world couldn't be bothered with a staple discipline of the sport?

      As always, Sonnen's life is an exercise in semantics.

      "Jiu-jitsu is a sport that you train that you have a gi on," said his chief strategist Robert Follis. "He doesn't train jiu-jitsu. Matt Lindland has never done jiu-jitsu, and he tapped out quite a few legitimate black belts on the ground. It's a positional game and a fight on the ground."

      And yet, Sonnen keeps getting caught. Just last year Demian Maia locked in one of the finest triangles you'll ever see.

      Silva and his camp noticed.

      "We saw just that sometimes Sonnen gets too confident with his punching and he opens holes," said Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, the heavyweight great who awarded Silva his black belt in BJJ.

      The idea was for Silva to establish his guard -- he told people in his locker room before the fight that he would be taken down and would have to win the fight from his back -- and allow Sonnen to punch himself into a bad position.

      Nogueira said he saw Silva attempt what they worked on in camp seven times before the final round. Each try was shut down when Sonnen made sure to stay in tight or back out. But in the fifth round, which Nogueira couldn't bring himself to watch as he "kept his head down and prayed," Silva finally nailed it.

      For a full 30 seconds before sneaking his left leg across he top of Sonnen's neck to lock down the choke, Silva maintained wrist control on Sonnen's right arm -- a major error that led to the tap as much as any lapse in focus.

      "He should have recognized that wrist control and peeled the hands," Lindland said.

      But Sonnen didn't. Not only that, he continued to throw his left hand at Silva's head, which is exactly what the champion and his team hoped for after watching film of the strong wrestler.

      "Anderson has long legs and Sonnen was really inside his guard," Nogueira said. "He was too outside or too inside. He was never in the middle. And in the middle of the position is when you find the time to submit a guy. Anderson held his arm and wrist and let Sonnen punch and get confidence. He put himself in the middle position and Anderson took the chance to take his knee outside so it was one arm in, one arm out so he could do the triangle."

      Silva, Nogueira said, promised just before stepping in the Octagon that the finish would happen like that. Among the many memorable things that came out of Sonnen's mouth during the lead-up to the fight, nothing upset Silva as much as the challenger's disrespect of the Nogueira brother's brand of Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

      Earning a black belt from the Nogueiras is like a finding a toy with a Happy Meal, Sonnen joked.

      "It was a crazy thing Sonnen did," Nogueira said.

      After returning from Oakland to Los Angeles on Sunday, Silva watched a replay of UFC 117 with his manager, Ed Soares. As he sat through the four-plus-round war with his fighter, Soares said Silva had just one reaction: "Wow, that's a hell of a fight. Sonnen really took it to me."

      During the bout's roughest patches Silva thought about God, his family and the sacrifices he underwent on his road to becoming MMA's dominant middleweight, he told his manager.

      "In this fight Anderson showed he was human," Nogueira said. "He showed he could be weak. But he showed he is a fighter and he brings something from his heart. It was beautiful."



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      Quote Originally Posted by tn94z View Post
      He won't be fighting anyone any time soon

      Oh what happen to silva saying he broke his ribs before the fight and his doctor told him not to fight. Now it happen after the first round,This is all bull shit from silvas camp that just wants to make excuses for how bad silva got beat. Now I have no respect for him he's a liar.Whats funny is people like yourself tnz beleive everything the media says . Now here come more excuses now its his age and injuries. Dude whats the word gullable niave
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      I am posting up articles. It's not that serious. No one is gullible or naive. Without articles, you don't have news. His own corner man said sonnen made a mistake. Your opinion isn't any more believable than the media's. Neither is mine on here. It is all just opinions when you get down to it. You get too personal about this stuff
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      That is kind of bogus though to say i had broken ribs coming into the fight only to really have a cracked rib suffered from the 1st round.

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      I would like to see the xrays
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      I have been looking for anything like X-rays. I'm not advocating his ribs or anything. I can't stand when people say stuff like this. I am just posting this up for conversation
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      Quote Originally Posted by tn94z View Post
      I have been looking for anything like X-rays. I'm not advocating his ribs or anything. I can't stand when people say stuff like this. I am just posting this up for conversation

      ok no problem,but you have to admit he got his excuses all mixed up

      ribs broke before the fight
      ribs broke after 2nd round
      age injuries recovery

      rematch postponed until when ever, he is going to hide from chael. Chaels stock just went up and silvas just went down
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      ok no problem,but you have to admit he got his excuses all mixed up

      ribs broke before the fight
      ribs broke after 2nd round
      age injuries recovery

      rematch postponed until when ever, he is going to hide from chael. Chaels stock just went up and silvas just went down
      Oh yeah, I'm not disputing any of that. I think the biggest problem is Ed soares needs to take vitor's advice and shut his mouth. Translating is one thing but he does these interviews alone. He is a joke!
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      ALL I KNOW IS HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT FOR 4 1/2 ROUNDS...TRIANGLE OR NOT. AT LEAST I GOT TO SEE THAT!!
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      thats BJJ. its real hard to force a sub on sombody who knows its coming. its all about waiting for that lapse in thinking and going for it.

      (fake it, take it, and break it)

      as for the rib who cares a cracked rib is super painful and technically if i have a coffee cup with a crack in it i call it broken.

      who cares. silva hung in there and showed heart and beat sonnen
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      Quote Originally Posted by jipped genes View Post
      thats BJJ. its real hard to force a sub on sombody who knows its coming. its all about waiting for that lapse in thinking and going for it.

      (fake it, take it, and break it)

      as for the rib who cares a cracked rib is super painful and technically if i have a coffee cup with a crack in it i call it broken.

      who cares. silva hung in there and showed heart and beat sonnen
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      Siva had no heart what heart he got lucky thats it, mr unbeatable show off got his ass handed to him and now has a ton of excuses.Thats heart to lie to everyone to make up excuses. Heart goes to chael who backed all his stuff up who didnt quit who fought every second of every round and didnt just lay on someone,thats heart thats integrity
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      Quote Originally Posted by FUZO View Post
      Siva had no heart what heart he got lucky thats it, mr unbeatable show off got his ass handed to him and now has a ton of excuses.Thats heart to lie to everyone to make up excuses. Heart goes to chael who backed all his stuff up who didnt quit who fought every second of every round and didnt just lay on someone,thats heart thats integrity
      I just don't understand how anyone that isn't personal friends with Anderson can sit back and say that Anderson is lying about what was going on. None of us have the slightest clue what was going on, so why the speculation? It doesn't help sonnen in any way.
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