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  • Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

    I guess Beck is going to quit snubbing the true libertarian?
    Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."



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    Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

    I am watching the rerun now and remember this morning on his radio show he said Pail would be on so I look forward to seeing it. I have to admit that before I became a libertarian I didn't know much about Ron Paul and wasn't sure how I took him, but now realize he is the real deal. Beck has claimed to be a libertarian for a while now and used to criticize Paul, and now seems to like him. I will assume it is because he didn't understand Ron Paul before the same as I didn't. I like Beck for the most part and hope that he has simply come to realize that Ron Paul is one of the only politicians worthy of representing any Americans. Ron Paul is a true patriot who looks out for the best interests of Americans the way America was supposed to be.
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      Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

      He's had Paul on a few times over the last couple yrs.
      So you're libertarian too, js? good call. Ya know the Judge, what's his name, but the Judge that sits in for Beck on the show is a libertarian as well.
      One thing I like about Ron Paul is he holds true to that (R). because that's a true Republican. These guys that are calling themselves republicans now-days don't know what the word 'conservative' means. Conserve The Constitution and you have true freedom and liberty. free will, free capitalism, freedom from state. freedom from government theft. real freedom!
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        Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

        I will not vote for paul because he does not beleive in war. He would withdraw the troops if he was in office.Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War resolotion in 2002. He also wants the states to decide whether pot is illegal instead of the gov controlling it. He also opposes the federal War on Drugs and thinks the states should decide whether to regulate or deregulate drugs such as medical marijuana
        pot should not be legal in states no matter what. I'm not even cool with the medical marijuana. Theres some stuff I do like about him but at his age its over.i'm baiting you guys to say he's not to old because everyone said mccain was to old,lol
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          Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

          Paul is not anti-war. He voted to go into Afghanistan. He is not anti-war at all. He's just extremely Constitutional.

          War on Drugs. yeah, that's a noble one here. Makes allot of sense.
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            Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

            Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
            He's had Paul on a few times over the last couple yrs.
            So you're libertarian too, js? good call. Ya know the Judge, what's his name, but the Judge that sits in for Beck on the show is a libertarian as well.
            One thing I like about Ron Paul is he holds true to that (R). because that's a true Republican. These guys that are calling themselves republicans now-days don't know what the word 'conservative' means. Conserve The Constitution and you have true freedom and liberty. free will, free capitalism, freedom from state. freedom from government theft. real freedom!
            Ron Paul is a Republican but used to be a Libertarian and has a strong relationship with the Libertarian party.

            The judge you are referring to is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He is good and I always watch him when he fills in for Beck. In some ways I like him better because he really does understand the constitution since he is a former judge. He makes sound arguments in defending the constitution.
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              Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

              Originally posted by FUZO View Post
              I will not vote for paul because he does not beleive in war. He would withdraw the troops if he was in office.Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War resolotion in 2002. He also wants the states to decide whether pot is illegal instead of the gov controlling it. He also opposes the federal War on Drugs and thinks the states should decide whether to regulate or deregulate drugs such as medical marijuana
              pot should not be legal in states no matter what. I'm not even cool with the medical marijuana. Theres some stuff I do like about him but at his age its over.i'm baiting you guys to say he's not to old because everyone said mccain was to old,lol
              Fuzo you know I agree with you on most issues, however in regard to Paul I have to disagree. He is not anti-war, but merely anti-war if the war seems unnecessary. I am a supporter of protecting our country and obviously so being as I served active duty in Iraq twice and continue to work in the defense sector and work in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, the longer the war goes on the more I begin to realize that we are getting nowhere. Afghanistan is not worthy of our soldiers losing their lives in order to set up a democracy for a nation that doesn't understand what a democracy is. I've been there and the people live in ancient times. Not to mention our own soldiers don't trust the Afghan soldiers, being that they have turned on them in some instances and killed Americans. I support taking out the Taliban and Al Qaeda but we are going about it in a pathetic manner imo. Get in and get out is what I feel would work best. Massive bombing campaigns could have ended this war long ago but we don't fight it that way, which tells me we are not serious on winning.

              As for Paul being in favor of legalizing Marijuana, this is where he is more a Libertarian than a Republican. This is also something I believe in and I will explain why based on the Libertarian view. It is our natural right to have ownership of the property of our body until we abuse that privilege through crime of some sort in which the state then owns your body (property). Therefore, if we own our body then it is our right to treat our body however we wish, even if that means ingesting drugs or alcohol, as long as people do not infringe on others rights, such as driving while intoxicated and crime, etc. The war on drugs has been one of the largest government failures of all time, and one of the most costly. But is it not being a hypocrite to think that steroids should be legal but not marijuana. A drug is a drug, and if one wishes to use it responsibly without affecting society in a negative manner then why should the state prevent us from doing so. I do not use marijuana or any other recreational drugs, however I still support legalization of marijuana at least. Heck, alcohol kills more people and it is legal. It is simply ludicrous to allow alcohol to be legal and not marijuana. What libertarians desire is minimum government interference. This is why I say republicans are no different than democrats. They both want big government, however with a biased stance. Left wing and Right wing are both pro state and against complete freedom. The government is a dangerous power that has no bounds when you continue to allow it to regulate and legislate. Why can't we have a free market and keep the government out. Ron Paul is against the Fed and the Federal government's involvement in education. This is because the Fed is the most powerful and dangerous threat to our freedom, and the education system is a failure. Where do you get a better education, private or public schools? Need I answer that? Anything the government runs performs terribly. Let's see, social security, medicare, medicaid, the post office, DMV, welfare, Amtrak, etc. They are all failures and suck money from the taxpayers more and more each year. There is no end in sight until we are broke. It takes a good understanding of economics to understand all of this, but it is worth studying. I suggest The Austrian School of Economics, as it is the only correct one with microeconomics as an exception. Our government practices Keynesian economics, which is completely wrong in every area of the subject. If our government does not change this then we are doomed....period. And unfortunately, the government probably does understand this but they are in favor of controlling every part of our lives. Thus, socialism will be the way of America for the next few decades until totalitarianism takes over. That is the end goal, to have a one world government rule, where all countries are the same and the people are equal, but equal in a rationing sense not a free sense. You probably won't agree with much I wrote about here but it is what I believe to be true. I thought I might be a Republican a few years back and then studied politics intensely and realized the truth. All politicians are after the same ultimate goal, big government, and we are given a show to watch while they act like they hate each other and argue over all of the issues, but in the end the role of government gets bigger and we lose more freedoms. Look how many republicans believe in Health Care and Climate Change. It is pathetic to see that they think they know best as usual when really they are a bunch of failures who could not make it in the free market society thus they grab for power by running for office, and then take out their frustrations against the free and hardworking Americans, all in the name of fairness and leveling the playing field. Think about this and maybe you will realize that what I say is true. If you truly believe in the constitution then you will realize that the role of government should be minimal. More government = less freedom.
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                Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                I will not vote for paul because he does not beleive in war. He would withdraw the troops if he was in office.Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War resolotion in 2002. He also wants the states to decide whether pot is illegal instead of the gov controlling it. He also opposes the federal War on Drugs and thinks the states should decide whether to regulate or deregulate drugs such as medical marijuana
                pot should not be legal in states no matter what. I'm not even cool with the medical marijuana. Theres some stuff I do like about him but at his age its over.i'm baiting you guys to say he's not to old because everyone said mccain was to old,lol
                Fuzo I know you are a republican and if you are a true republican you should not be in support of the Federal Government getting in our lives and regulating things. This is the problem with government, they want to get into our private lives on every issue. Why is it so wrong for the states to decide if they want drugs legal or not. In that sense, you could move to a state of your choosing if you didn't like the laws they had. But when the government dictates everything we all lose. This is the sad problem with a democracy. It is majority rule with no respect to individual freedoms. Our country is supposed to let the states govern as they please and pay taxes to the government for a military to protect them and roads and waterways for commerce.
                Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington

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                  Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                  Originally posted by JsJs24 View Post
                  Ron Paul is a Republican but used to be a Libertarian and has a strong relationship with the Libertarian party.

                  The judge you are referring to is Judge Andrew Napolitano. He is good and I always watch him when he fills in for Beck. In some ways I like him better because he really does understand the constitution since he is a former judge. He makes sound arguments in defending the constitution.
                  Just because you're a republican doesn't mean you can't be a libertarian. He's a registered republican as many libertarians. The libertarian republican is an absolute conservative. A true republican. That's why I'm glad he holds strong to that (R). He's making a point.
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                    Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                    It really boils down to this. Either you're for The Constitution, or not. If you believe The Constitution should be exclusive perpetual rule, just as it was intended. Then anything, and everything that's came behind it is bs, and should be thrown out the window.
                    It governed for 200yrs without flaw. Then came Theodore with his progressive agendas. FDR and his "new deals"...and it's gone to hell in a handbag since.
                    The American dollar was the almighty currency until The Gold Standard was abolished. From then, the dollar has declined...and here we are. Massive government. Broke dollar. The people are not in power. And allot of them actually believe that the government, and government of things (laws), makes a responsible state.(people, country)
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                      Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                      Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
                      Just because you're a republican doesn't mean you can't be a libertarian. He's a registered republican as many libertarians. The libertarian republican is an absolute conservative. A true republican. That's why I'm glad he holds strong to that (R). He's making a point.
                      I see your point but what I mean is that he is a registered Republican, and not a registered Libertarian.

                      I am an active libertarian and supporter of the constitution and limited government. You show me how a republican supports limited government, I would be delighted to see that. If the two parties are so similar then there would be no need to distinguish them. I am aware of Libertarian Republicans, a sort of hybrid if you will. That is fine, but once again, not a libertarian. If you are a libertarian then most likely you would support the philosophy of Ayn Rand and align your economic beliefs with The Austrian School of Economics. I see a lot of Republicans claiming to be Libertarians and yet they still support massive government interventionist policies like the patriot act and the war on drugs. Another thing, if Libertarian Republicans continue to vote for Republicans then our country is doomed because until we get rid of the two party (one party) system nothing will change. Ron Paul is an exception but I believe he holds the R by his name to ensure holding his seat in the southern state of Texas which is majority Republicans.
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                        Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                        Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
                        It really boils down to this. Either you're for The Constitution, or not. If you believe The Constitution should be exclusive perpetual rule, just as it was intended. Then anything, and everything that's came behind it is bs, and should be thrown out the window.
                        It governed for 200yrs without flaw. Then came Theodore with his progressive agendas. FDR and his "new deals"...and it's gone to hell in a handbag since.
                        The American dollar was the almighty currency until The Gold Standard was abolished. From then, the dollar has declined...and here we are. Massive government. Broke dollar. The people are not in power. And allot of them actually believe that the government, and government of things (laws), makes a responsible state.(people, country)
                        I hear what you're saying but Republicans are not going to change things either. It comes down to this............Collectivism vs Individualism and the collective elite are growing stronger and stronger.
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                          Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                          Ive got to do more research om him and educate myself on him to really determine if I feel right for him or not.But I dont want the gov in my life I want less gov. Ive got sme research to do thats all
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                            Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                            Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                            Ive got to do more research om him and educate myself on him to really determine if I feel right for him or not.But I dont want the gov in my life I want less gov. Ive got sme research to do thats all
                            Fuzo that is an excellent idea and a great response. I am with you on the majority of issues obviously, and would be a republican had I not become so interested in politics these past few years. Heck, I am so involved now that I am building a business based on politics and philosophy and plan to do speeches eventually and maybe even talk radio, definitely a podcast. Politics is an extremely complex subject and one that very few people understand entirely. I will tell you right now that Ron Paul has said some things that I don't agree with and that is going to be the case with all politicians, however the thing I admire about him is that he has morals, ethics, and values, and holds true to the constitution. He tried to pass the audit the fed bill 24 times (I believe that is the right number) before finally getting it passed in the house. He has tried to place term limits on congress, and he turned down his own pension from congress. There are not many like him, if any at all. However, I doubt he will be the President ever but at least he inspires others who may indeed run for office some day. I also believe that Ron Paul is far more intelligent than most of the people in office. He has a very good understanding of the constitution and of the history of this country. I am not trying to sell him to you at any rate however, but he is interesting to listen to. The one thing I like best about him is that he wants the government out of our life as much as possible. Whether or not I agree with him on everything, that is the most important of them all imo. Perhaps he doesn't like war, but hell, who does. I work with infantry units everyday and I can tell you right now that they serve proudly but would much rather be at home with their families, and sadly nobody has a clue of what the hell we are trying to achieve over there. My brother and I were both Republicans so we thought, and once we began to research political issues more and decided we wanted to go into business to help bring political awareness to others, we realized that we are both libertarians. Of course, I will take the side of Republicans over Democrats every day of the week, but you have to keep your eyes and ears on both parties. They are sneaky and deceptive scum imo. You can't trust hardly any of them. I have recommended a couple of sites to check out countless times on here but I can't say it enough how important and valuable they are to our knowledge. Once again I will list a few excellent sources for information below. Also, reading Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged is probably the best thing anyone could do to understand collectivism and individualism, not to mention the story is amazing. It has been a best selling book for more than 4 decades and is credited as the number 2 book that people refer to as leading their lives based off of, number 1 is the Bible.

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                              Re: Anyone notice Paul was back on Beck?

                              Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
                              He's had Paul on a few times over the last couple yrs.
                              So you're libertarian too, js? good call. Ya know the Judge, what's his name, but the Judge that sits in for Beck on the show is a libertarian as well.
                              One thing I like about Ron Paul is he holds true to that (R). because that's a true Republican. These guys that are calling themselves republicans now-days don't know what the word 'conservative' means. Conserve The Constitution and you have true freedom and liberty. free will, free capitalism, freedom from state. freedom from government theft. real freedom!
                              Judge Napalatono (sp?) and every time he guest spotted for Beck he made sure to put Paul on the show
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