cutting/insulin

[nik]

TweetI have read a lot of post on the board saying insulin is very hard or impossible to cut with. I was put on it 4 weeks ago along with other gear and am currently cutting b/f very well. Is it just hard because of diet or what? I am running it with the following: test prop 300 mgs/week, fina 500 mgs/week, t3 - 2 ed, equipoise 300 mgs/week, m1t - 3 eod...... jump started first 2 weeks w/ anadrol 50 mgs/ d. I am taking slin up to 20 iu/day (split into 3 shots- humulin r). Havent had any problems....very srtict diet/workout. Had a lot of professional help before i started it (was kinda worried bout slin) but i have gone from 215 @ 10 %b/f to 210 @ 6%b/f in the 4 weeks. How much has the slin affected my gains both good and bad? thanks - nik

[blink]

TweetThe reason that insulin is equated with making one fat is, because it drives protein and carbohydrate into muscle. Insulin also shunts tons of fat into
adipose tissue storage if you give it the chance.

Another reason, is fear - most bb-ers using slin, tend to (understandably) consume more carbs than they need to. Hell, it's better to get fat than it is to end up in a diabetic coma, right?

Now, I know why you were counseled to take T3. The theory is that it will speed up anabolism in muscle cells and keep fat levels in check. The problem is that T3 increases the levels of IGFBP2 and IGFBP4. This, effectively negates most of the anabolic effects of insulin! I would choose another fat burner.

Your results just may prove that. According to you, you lost about 9lbs of fat, while gaining 4 lbs lean mass. That's not astounding, considering the rest of your cycle, which, by the way, I know that you didn't ask, but, I would've done a few things differently.

300mg EQ is not going to do anything for you. IMO, twice that is minimum dosage.

If I were doing a cutter, I would up the Test to 4-500/week.


HTH

[nik]

Tweetim switching the t3 to clen in 3 days....... will that be sufficient? also, i am in fact upping the eq to 500/week and the test to 500/week. does this sound ok? and how much is TOO much slin? thanks for the great responses. anymore info will be appreciated!!

[rigolo]

TweetThinking of using slin next month myself but i have 2 questions for you bros, don't mean to jack up your thread Nik

1) where can i get it for cheap (humalog)?
2) To whoever used it, what are the results, freaky or not?

Thanks
Rigolo

[blink]

Tweet1. no source posting : )

2. you can get big. you can get fat. you can die.

Seriously, you need to do ALOT of research before doing slin. It can kill you, just like that. Used properly, one can achieve gains beyond where AAS can take you.

[rigolo]

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Originally posted by blink
1. no source posting : )

2. you can get big. you can get fat. you can die.

Seriously, you need to do ALOT of research before doing slin. It can kill you, just like that. Used properly, one can achieve gains beyond where AAS can take you.

Thanks for your reply blink and also mentioning that it could kill, because it definately can, no joke!!!

I did some extensive research, and by extensive i mean 'E'xtensive and know more than you can imagine, however was wondering about the ACTUAL results...

Also by asking where can i get it cheap i didn't expect anyone to post it here of course -although i should've made that clear- there are many ways to spread the word other than public posting. But thanks for bringing that up blink :-\