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    Obama resorts to fear mongering


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    I am amazed at the comment today from Barack Obama that if we don't pass this stimulus bill right now, the recession may prove to be irreversible, that America may never recover from our inaction right now. That is -- wow, that's incredible. He said this recession may linger for years, our economy will lose five million more jobs. You know what this is? This is really a hedge because he can say, "Well, I didn't get my stimulus bill, I didn't get everything in my stimulus bill that I wanted," as this thing lingers for years, if it doesn't get much, much worse. He said unemployment will approach double digits. Yes. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that at some point we may not be able to reverse. He's calling this the action Americans need. He says that energy independence is one of the reasons that we have to pass the stimulus bill quickly. Energy independence. Less than 24 hours after his new interior secretary cancelled the oil and gas leases on 77 parcels of federal land, more than 130,000 acres in Utah alone. In a completely unrelated story, Cuban officials say that exploratory drilling to access potential for oil reserves in the Gulf of Mexico is likely to resume in the second quarter of this year, a sign that lower world prices for oil have not derailed efforts by the Cuban government and its foreign corporate partners to keep moving towards offshore oil production. Cuba's state oil company has estimated that there are 20 billion barrels of recoverable offshore oil in Cuban waters. The U.S. geological survey has issued a more conservative estimate, under 5 billion barrels just offshore of Cuba. But remember we don't want anything to do with carbon. The idea that this president, from the party that says Bush is using fear, that he's trying to get everybody to do something through fear, well, I don't know if you remember seeing this on TV. They don't show it very often anymore. In fact, they don't show it at all. Do you remember the World Trade Centers falling? Do you remember the field in Pennsylvania? Do you remember the Pentagon? I seem to recall actual people trying to kill us and that was using fear to get things done. But saying that our economy may never recover if he doesn't get this stimulus package, let me just put this into perspective. We're never going to recover if we don't get the $50 million for the National Endowment For the Arts, we may never recover if we don't get $380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children's program, we may never recover if we don't get $300 million for grants to combat violence against women, we may never recover if we don't have $6 billion for university building projects, we may never recover if we don't have $1.2 billion to provide youth summer jobs, and this bill defines "Youth" to people up to the age of 24. You'll be paying for those. We will never recover if we don't have $2.4 billion for neighborhood stabilization activities. We may never recover if we don't have $650 million for digital TV coupons. We may never recover if we don't get $150 million for the Smithsonian. We may never recover if we don't have $34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters. We may never recover if we don't have $500 million for the improvement projects for the national institute of health facilities. We may never recover if we don't have $44 million for repairs to the Department of Agriculture headquarters or $350 million for agriculture department computers. We may never recover if we don't have $88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building, not for a new building. To help them move to a new building. We may never survive if we don't have that $88 million for a moving truck! We may never survive if we don't have the money to convert federal auto fleets to hybrids. This country may never recover if we don't have a billion dollars for the census bureau. We may never recover if we don't have $89 billion for Medicaid or $30 billion for COBRA extensions or $36 billion for expanded unemployment or $20 billion for more food stamps. We may never recover if we don't have $850 million for Amtrak, a train that hasn't turned a profit in 50 years. America as we know it may never recover if we don't have $87 million for a polar ice breaking ship, never recover. Let's not look too deeply into why we would need a polar ice breaking ship if the poles are melting and won't have any ice! We may never recover if we don't have $1.7 million for the national park system or $55 million for the historic preservation fund. We may not survive if we don't have $7.6 million for the rural advancement program or $150 million for the agriculture commodity purposes or $150 million for producers of livestock, farm-raised fish and honeybees. We may never survive. We may never recover unless we have $160 million for paid volunteers at the Corporation for National and Community Service for the community volunteers, the National -- wait a minute. Why are we paying the volunteers?


    Look, we may never survive if we don't get serious about renewable energy. Our planet has a temperature. It's very sick. We have to do everything we can. For instance, would be ridiculous for, you know, me, the president, to take Air Force one out on its maiden flight, to take a 747 jumbo jet from Washington D.C. for an out-and-back excursion to the House Democratic caucus retreat at the Kings Mill Resort and Spa in Williamsburg, Virginia, where the 747 is parked in Virginia. It would be crazy to take a 157-mile trip in a 747 jumbo jet when you've got teleconferencing there in the White House, because the Earth has a temperature and that's why America may not ever recover if we don't act now and pass $2 billion for renewable energy research or $2 billion for clean coal power plants in Illinois or $6.2 billion for a weatherization assistance program which basically is weatherstrips for underneath your door! We may never survive if we don't have $3.5 billion for energy efficiency and conservation block grants or $3.4 billion for the state energy program or $200 million for state and local electric transport projects or $300 million for the energy-efficient appliance rebate program or $400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments or $1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries or $1.5 billion for green technology, loan guarantees or $8 billion for innovative loan guarantee program or $2.4 billion for carbon capture demonstration projects or $4.5 billion for the electricity grid or $79 billion for the state fiscal stabilization fund. We may never recover if we don't do these things right now. Don't think. Do it now! Or we may never recover. Is anyone insulted?
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    Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

    $350 million for agriculture department computers - alot of jobs
    $300 million for grants to combat violence against women - more jobs
    $6 billion for university building projects - 6 billion in construction? how many jobs will this create?
    $34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters - will also create jobs
    $500 million for the improvement projects for the national institute of health facilities - half a billion dollars, i dont think you understand how many jobs could be filled with these projects!
    $36 billion for expanded unemployment - many hard working tax paying americans are suffering with no work. i don't object to this.

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    • #3
      Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

      Originally posted by Fit2bLarge View Post
      $350 million for agriculture department computers - alot of jobs
      $300 million for grants to combat violence against women - more jobs
      $6 billion for university building projects - 6 billion in construction? how many jobs will this create?
      $34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters - will also create jobs
      $500 million for the improvement projects for the national institute of health facilities - half a billion dollars, i dont think you understand how many jobs could be filled with these projects!
      $36 billion for expanded unemployment - many hard working tax paying americans are suffering with no work. i don't object to this.
      If all these things are so great for the economy and you are 100% sure that this will stimulate the economy and little alse can. Why not times those number by 10? Then we would REALLY stimulate the economy. As a matter of fact, lets double the total budget for the year and enjoy unbelievable prosperity!
      Fit2bLarge, please name one society EVER to exist on this planet that has taxed and spent itself into prosperity?
      A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

        Originally posted by firstenrgy View Post
        If all these things are so great for the economy and you are 100% sure that this will stimulate the economy and little alse can. Why not times those number by 10? Then we would REALLY stimulate the economy. As a matter of fact, lets double the total budget for the year and enjoy unbelievable prosperity!
        Fit2bLarge, please name one society EVER to exist on this planet that has taxed and spent itself into prosperity?
        wow...best point you've made yet bro!!!
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        • #5
          Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

          Originally posted by Fit2bLarge View Post
          $350 million for agriculture department computers - alot of jobs
          $300 million for grants to combat violence against women - more jobs
          $6 billion for university building projects - 6 billion in construction? how many jobs will this create?
          $34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters - will also create jobs
          $500 million for the improvement projects for the national institute of health facilities - half a billion dollars, i dont think you understand how many jobs could be filled with these projects!
          $36 billion for expanded unemployment - many hard working tax paying americans are suffering with no work. i don't object to this.
          Are you high?

          How is buying computers creating jobs?

          How are getting grants to women victims from violence creating jobs?

          Expanded unemployment is not creating jobs but I don't have too much reservations against this....

          What I do have questiosn about is when this SPENDING bill not stimulus is going to even put this money out there...they said the majority of it isn't even going to be spent right away.
          Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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          • #6
            Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

            Fuzo,

            This is what i've been preaching all along. I don't know your exact feelings on George Bush but he and Obama are really one in the same...if Americans think that they are going to get anything different out of Obama they are mistaken. Yes SOME ideas of Obamas differ from George Bush but their key philosphies are one in the same. There really isn't a "two party" system anymore. Bush and Obama are both using FEAR mongering to get their issues across.

            With Bush it was the Patriot Act and such...with Obama you see what he is trying to accomplish. They both are threats to the soverignety of America.
            Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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            • #7
              Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

              If all these things are so great for the economy and you are 100% sure that this will stimulate the economy and little alse can. Why not times those number by 10? Then we would REALLY stimulate the economy. As a matter of fact, lets double the total budget for the year and enjoy unbelievable prosperity!
              Fit2bLarge, please name one society EVER to exist on this planet that has taxed and spent itself into prosperity?

              He cant and doesnt know what he's talking about when it comes to this stimulis package about posting those numbers. liberals in the white house will sink the united states of america as we know it.nancy cu_Nt PELOSI will continue to blow Fagoma and sink us. Remember its president pelosi
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              • #8
                Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                Fuzo,

                This is what i've been preaching all along. I don't know your exact feelings on George Bush but he and Obama are really one in the same...if Americans think that they are going to get anything different out of Obama they are mistaken. Yes SOME ideas of Obamas differ from George Bush but their key philosphies are one in the same. There really isn't a "two party" system anymore. Bush and Obama are both using FEAR mongering to get their issues across.

                With Bush it was the Patriot Act and such...with Obama you see what he is trying to accomplish. They both are threats to the soverignety of America.


                I understand where your coming from.
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                • #9
                  Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                  Originally posted by firstenrgy View Post
                  If all these things are so great for the economy and you are 100% sure that this will stimulate the economy and little alse can. Why not times those number by 10? Then we would REALLY stimulate the economy. As a matter of fact, lets double the total budget for the year and enjoy unbelievable prosperity!
                  Fit2bLarge, please name one society EVER to exist on this planet that has taxed and spent itself into prosperity?
                  Remember it was bad that Bush spent, spent, spent us into part of this mess but now that it's Obies turn it's okay. The old double standard.
                  Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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                  • #10
                    Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                    Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                    Remember it was bad that Bush spent, spent, spent us into part of this mess but now that it's Obies turn it's okay. The old double standard.
                    and the people elected fagobama thinking change was going to happen. duped again. I like that word duped
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                    • #11
                      Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                      Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                      and the people elected fagobama thinking change was going to happen. duped again. I like that word duped
                      Oh, don't get me wrong there was change

                      First african american president (well half black)
                      Democrat
                      and um.....
                      well yeah...
                      that is change
                      Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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                      • #12
                        Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                        Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                        Oh, don't get me wrong there was change

                        First african american president (well half black)
                        Democrat
                        and um.....
                        well yeah...
                        that is change


                        Well ok that change,lol
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                          Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                          Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                          Fuzo,

                          This is what i've been preaching all along. I don't know your exact feelings on George Bush but he and Obama are really one in the same...if Americans think that they are going to get anything different out of Obama they are mistaken. Yes SOME ideas of Obamas differ from George Bush but their key philosphies are one in the same. There really isn't a "two party" system anymore. Bush and Obama are both using FEAR mongering to get their issues across.

                          With Bush it was the Patriot Act and such...with Obama you see what he is trying to accomplish. They both are threats to the soverignety of America.
                          I totally agree with that. Using fear to extort, control and manipulate. In time, they will be convincing us that a police state is in our best interests.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                            Originally posted by Dzone View Post
                            I totally agree with that. Using fear to extort, control and manipulate. In time, they will be convincing us that a police state is in our best interests.
                            They are working on that now....check out the FEMA camps thing that is goin on

                            A good over look of what FEMA is all about. Enslavement and Concentration Camps. It is not about saving people that is an illusion.
                            Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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                            • #15
                              Re: Obama resorts to fear mongering

                              Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                              Are you high?

                              How is buying computers creating jobs?

                              How are getting grants to women victims from violence creating jobs?

                              Expanded unemployment is not creating jobs but I don't have too much reservations against this....

                              What I do have questiosn about is when this SPENDING bill not stimulus is going to even put this money out there...they said the majority of it isn't even going to be spent right away.
                              buying computers? let's see, ordering from let's say dell, dell needs people to put these together no? jobs. After they are shipped, who's going to install them? more jobs. Who's going to support these PCs? more jobs

                              there's 3 tiers for you

                              you don't see how grants for women violence will create counseling jobs nationwide? Are YOU high?

                              at least we agree on expanding unemployment.

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