Proviron used in PCT as well?

[Harp]

Generally proviron is used during a cycle. A friend of mine however uses it in place of clomid for PCT, and claims it works just the same. He also adds tribulus in the morning and ZMA at night. Would this PCT be effective?

[T-Man007]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

No. Proviron does NOT have any effect on the boys. It's an anti-E, that's it. It does work differently than nolva but that's not the discussion here. I personally do not think tribulas and ZMA are strong enough to bring back the boys after a hard shut down. But that's just my opinion.

[FIVE_8]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

proviron is an anti-estrogen that can be use to increase sex drive and give you some extra hardening

[mick-G]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

i wouldn't use it in place of clomid bro. You can use it during pct along with the clomid/nolva to increase libido, or to avoid a crash post cycle. It will also help in hardening your gains the last 3 wks of your cycle.

[Sven]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

I use proviron during pct. as an addition, not as a substitute for something.

[pigmeat]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

I run proviron through entire cycle, and 4-6 weeks past pct........works great and keeps me from post cycle depression, and sex drive crash....plus it has anti estrogen qualities, and will harden you up some

[mick-G]

Re: Proviron used in PCT as well?

I posted this awhile ago at SL. I use it during pct @ 25mg ed:
Proviron:
Lets delve into some of the positive points of this drug before we go any farther. Androgen Receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(5), and whilethey act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, they also act directly on the AR in fat cells to affect fat burning.(9)(3) The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue(6)(2). As if that’s not enough good news, some steroids (notably, testosterone) even increase the numbers of A.R. in muscle and fat (9)(7). Thus, if you are taking a simple stack of proviron and testosterone, you’ll have more of the test you shoot as free testosterone floating around building muscle (compliments of the Proviron), more androgen receptors to be bound to (compliments of your testosterone) by your Proviron, thus causing more fat loss. Testosterone and Proviron are a very nice synergistic stack, pretty nearly an “ideal” stack of an oral and injectable, because both drugs will actually act to enhance the effect of the other.

So what we have here is a steroid which can basically make other steroids more effective by preventing their conversion into estrogen, as well as increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body. This of course all provides a more hardened and quality look to muscles. Proviron is very much a “synergistic” drug in this respect, and it’s inclusion in any cycle would definitely make all of the other steroids perform better, and provide better gains. This is all compounded by the fact that proviron is a very lipolytic (fat-burning) drug.

Now, as if all of this weren’t enough, lets talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis)…the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive “bridge” between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels…you want those to remain low).(8).

Unfortunately, this stuff is not too hot on it’s own. It’s a good drug for inclusion in a cycle containing testosterone and other armoatizable steroids, and it’s a good drug for a possible “bridge” between cycles. Alone, however, as an androgenic or anabolic agent, it’s effects have been very weak in both studies (9), as well as in the experience of everyone I spoke to about it. This may be due to the addition of the 1-methyl-group to DHT, which makes this stuff orally active. Whatever the case, as a stand alone anabolic or androgenic compound, it’s not too impressive.

This drug is a rare find on the American Black Market, and many Underground Labs don't even produce it, but if you can find it, I’d say that you shouldn’t be paying more than .50cents for each 50mg tab.