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      Criticism Body cleansing and detoxification...

      Criticism

      Body cleansing and detoxification have been referred to as an elaborate hoax used by con artists to cure nonexistent illnesses. Some doctors contend that the "toxins" in question do not...
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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detoxification_(alt...

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detoxification_(alternative_medicine)


      "Detoxification is an alternative medicine approach that proponents claim rids the body of "toxins", accumulated harmful...
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      No, I'm not referring to supps that lower liver...

      No, I'm not referring to supps that lower liver enzymes. In referring to the belief that the liver gets full of toxins and that certain foods or supps clean them out. Here is a great article on the...
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      https://www.placeboeffect.com/nocebo-effect/

      https://www.placeboeffect.com/nocebo-effect/
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      https://harvardmagazine.com/2005/05/the-nocebo-effe...

      https://harvardmagazine.com/2005/05/the-nocebo-effect.html
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      Actually people do get fake side effects. ...

      Actually people do get fake side effects. They're called nocebo effects. I read a study on chemo therapy and some in the control group actually reported similar side effects like hair falling out,...
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      Ok, I guess the difference is that I require more...

      Ok, I guess the difference is that I require more than testimonials. I'm all for using methods other than medicine, which is why I pursued a career in clinical exercise physiology, I just don't buy...
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      What I meant is there any data showing that by...

      What I meant is there any data showing that by reducing liver enzymes, there are less toxins. Or is there any bit of evidence comparing humans using detox supps vs those using a placebo, or any type...
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      Are you aware of any data on this?

      Are you aware of any data on this?
    10. Really? That's sad that we don't encourage...

      Really? That's sad that we don't encourage looking at our health from an objective, scientific perspective.

      So, this place prefers health info from magazines?
    11. Too much journalism, not enough peer reviewed...

      Too much journalism, not enough peer reviewed science on this forum.
    12. Lol, luckily loonies like the gersons are not...

      Lol, luckily loonies like the gersons are not allowed to practice their quackery in the US. ;)

      Thinking that squirting coffee up your ass will cure cancer has killed a lot of innocent people
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      How exactly are toxins measured pre and post...

      How exactly are toxins measured pre and post detox? Hint: they aren't, so claiming there are less is not quantifiable.

      There has never been a physiological explanation on how the detox supps...
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      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9252839/

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9252839/
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      https://www.livescience.com/947-colon-cleansing-mon...

      https://www.livescience.com/947-colon-cleansing-money-toilet.html
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      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22297655/

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22297655/
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      I already know what the liver does, I'm asking...

      I already know what the liver does, I'm asking for proof that it needs detoxifying.
      There is no way to measure toxin levels pre and post detox and the term detox has no physiological explanation. ...
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      Detoxifying the liver? Lol

      I hear about this all the time from shitty magazines like natural news.

      For those of you that buy this crap can you please clarify some things for me?

      1. Explain the physiological process of...
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      Lol @ people who say he's a Muslim.

      Lol @ people who say he's a Muslim.
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      Lmao!!

      Lmao!!
    21. That's the problem of media reporting scientific...

      That's the problem of media reporting scientific studies. 1 study shows some kind of correlation and everyone jumps on it. Research scientists are way more skeptical of 1 study, or even 5 studies,...
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      God is love lol

      God is love lol
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      Lol at you admitting g you're wrong. You don't...

      Lol at you admitting g you're wrong. You don't have that ability
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      I tend to back up my ideas with actual facts...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      That's called backpedaling or copping out when you're made to look like an idiot.
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2122.html

      Major religious groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Major Religions Ranked by Size

      Don't take my word,...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      lol at your stubbornness to accept fact. Can you tell what convinced you otherwise?
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      You obviously do not know what c hristianity is. if you believe jesus is the son of god, you're a christian, that's the entire premise of christianity.

      as for 70% of the world being...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      Your claim about religions is flat out wrong. approx 70% of the world does not believe jesus is the son of god, ie not christian. I challenge you to prove otherwise and I'll wager $1,000 dollars on...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      you mean an airplane like a giant bird? I'm not sure what your point is in relation to the topic at hand.

      Of course primitive man could imaging people flying, they saw birds do it all the time...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      billions of others in different religions do not believe jesus was divine, lol. If they did, that would make them christians, and not of their religion. lol at this comment. the world is made up...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      Is this a serious statement? Can you elaborate on this? It makes me wonder about dragons, vampires, werewolves, unicorns etc.
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      so, everything ever drawn has to be real? I can draw all sorts of things that I've never seen and it doesn't make them real. It's not a stretch to put wings on people considering there were birds...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      deists do not say jesus did not exist, they question that he was the son of god. Even muslims don't question that jesus existed, nor jews, they just say he was not divine. Just one of the amazing...
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      Or, they could be completely fiction considering there is zero evidence of them.
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      Re: Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      Believing in something doesn't make it real. Some people believe in bigfoot too...
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      Or, angels are just imaginary...

      Or, angels are just imaginary...
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      You sound a bit like a deist yourself. What I...

      You sound a bit like a deist yourself.

      What I meant about them being more scientific is that they valued logic, reason and rational thinking over superstition. Meaning that supernatural forces...
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      Many people believe in god but aren't Christians....

      Many people believe in god but aren't Christians. Beliefs in many different gods have come and gone for centuries.

      Christians specifically believe Jesus is the son of god. The Jews believe in...
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      Lol, if he were a Christian why would he...

      Lol, if he were a Christian why would he purposefully omit Jesus claims of divinity?

      And many if the other founding fathers explicitly admitted to being deists.
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      You're confused about deism and Christian. Many...

      You're confused about deism and Christian. Many people believe in god, but are not Christian. That quote above could be used to argue that Jefferson is a Muslim. Study Jefferson's writings in...
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      Jefferson was a deist, not a Christian. In fact...

      Jefferson was a deist, not a Christian. In fact he was so against the idea of Jesus being the son if god that he wrote the Jefferson bible and omitted any mention of Jesus as being Divine. He was a...
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      If squatting to crap is uncomfortable its the result of being inflexible and deconditioned for this type of movement. The article is accurate in that its a better way to crap. In fact, I've heard...
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      The above are posted for those who wrongly...

      The above are posted for those who wrongly believe that this country is a Christian nation founded by Christian men. Many of the founding fathers were deists and despised Christianity, as evidenced...
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      Was Thomas Jefferson a Deist?

      Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
      -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr,...
    46. The wackos at the gerson institute claim to...

      The wackos at the gerson institute claim to reverse cancer by putting their clients on a vegetarian diet which is high in carbohydrates.
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      Lol, agreed, I posted it just to be funny in...

      Lol, agreed, I posted it just to be funny in response to your post. Obviously there are geniuses on both sides, and obviously liberal ideas like women rights, gay rights, Medicare for elderly, and...
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      And it's associated w a higher IQ. ...

      And it's associated w a higher IQ.

      https://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/index.html
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      I do for deads and heavy pulls. Not on every...

      I do for deads and heavy pulls. Not on every lift though, I want to keep my grip strength at least moderate.
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