TweetI've been running Test only cycles so far and I'll admit I never did any real PCT. mainly because I'm not sure what exactly what to go with, everyone goes with something or another. Can y'all give me some suggestions on protocol ?
TweetI've been running Test only cycles so far and I'll admit I never did any real PCT. mainly because I'm not sure what exactly what to go with, everyone goes with something or another. Can y'all give me some suggestions on protocol ?
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TweetI only know the older clomid protocols such as 300 mg day one, 100 mg for 10 days, then 50 mg for 10 days. That's the only PCT I ever ran except on one occasion I tossed Nolvadex in the mix at 40 mg for the first half and 20 mg for the second half. I don't PCT anymore I just blast and cruise, but I know there's newer protocols and different types of PCT drugs out there now. If you're just doing basic test only cycles though the Clomid one will work just fine.
TweetI did like three cycles with no pct of test only in my twenties(im 33 now) and i never got any gyno or anything. I had bad depression and zero sex drive.
I cant do clomid it just makes me feel like crap so i do, something like loads of tribulus and nolva. Thats worked pretty well for me, but to say you dont know where to start.. Bro theres tons of pct threads and you can even do a regular google search and find a protocol in minutes.
TweetWell thats more like what I meant, some do the clomid/nolva, some do HCG during or just after, some don't do any at all like ya said and jus have the nolva just incase, and just come off it with something simple like the OTC stuff like the PCT blends trib/longjack etc. I just want to do it right and simple.
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TweetYea clomid gave me tracers in my eyes and made me feel super lethargic and no energy. Ive heard conflicting thoughts on hcg, some say to run it on cycle but then rich piana says dont because the test is shutting down your nads and the hcg is trying to bring them back to size so theyre fighting eachother. I also heard that during pct it still shutdown your natty test production so im confused on that too.
TweetHCG acts as LH and FSH so it shuts down your natural production of those two hormones that stimulate test production. I believe I have my verbiage/ science correct.... Either way it's suppressive and would be used before you come off not for pct. nolva is a perfectly fine choice if you don't like clomid.
TweetNelson Vergel two wrote "Built to Survive" was explaining why he believes running HCG to his injections is important. sure when I ran 250mgs x2 a week my nuts shrank but they came back. guys are talking as well as my Doc saying that's permanent. so I wanted to get the truth on all this, thanks guys !
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TweetUse a little hcg while your on or at least before you stop your cycle. I been taking 50mg clomid/40novla for 2 weeks then 25mg clomid/20 nolva for 2 weeks. That works fine for me. I'll take some sort of natural test booster too. Thats about all you can really do to my knowledge.
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TweetI've always done 4 weeks of clomid @ 200/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 never used hcg personal choice but like your hearing don't run it on pct as it will suppress your natural production and negate your pct maybe not completely but certainly will mess with it.
TweetI used to use the waterfall dosing with nolvadex when coming off.
Example...
Week one 50mg nolva a day
Week 2 40 mg nolva a day
Week 3 30mg a day
Week 4 20 mg a day
Week 5 10 mg a day.
Never had no issues. Good luck and hope this helped
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