TweetHEY 2SWOLE THAT BABY1 ISNT A BRO BABY1 IS MY WIFE,LOL

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Originally Posted by Klash

LOL, **** Dzone, I don't want to read that $hit... go put your gay hustler up, I'm sure it's quite informative but keep it in the closet!...

LOL...phuckin dichead, pull that plug outa your ashole...thats what is nice here... we can yell at each other but its done with Christian love...LOL

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Originally Posted by youngN

ignorant, how is God a fraud, open your eyes and explain how our universe is so vast and complex...un frickin believable

Why is his beliefs ignorant? I dont believe in God yet would never call someone who did ignorant. And how does a vast and complex universe prove that your God exists. There is scientific fact to support evolution and how the universe was created to support somes beliefs. Show me YOUR proof of our existance due to Adam and Eve? Yet am I calling you ignorant? Lack of an open mind, diversity and people being able to make up thier mind on what they beleive is true ignorance..... not someone believing something that differs from you.

TweetI have known many Christians that tell everyone that if they dont pray to ask Jesus into their heart, they are going to burn in HE LL for ETERNITY WITH NO MERCY AND SUFFERING BEYOND WORDS...for real? is that true?

TweetSORRY i DIDNT MEAN TO LAUGH

TweetYou know, the world laughs at Scientology, due to ignorance and curiosity. But some Christians aren't far from Scientologists with their strong arm beliefs. Arguing Religion always has been, and always will be, a mute point. Some Christians are like "You WILL believe what I believe!!"

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Originally Posted by Dzone

I have known many Christians that tell everyone that if they dont pray to ask Jesus into their heart, they are going to burn in HE LL for ETERNITY WITH NO MERCY AND SUFFERING BEYOND WORDS...for real? is that true?

not with my god...he dont play that! that's why he gave you free will...watch...i'll have klash hanging tight with my boy J.C when it's all done with, and klash will be tripping over his toung with the appologies, and me and J.C will just be SHREDDING my boy klash!! it's gonna be a riot...y'alls invited!
i dont do any of the finger pointing...i have my belief's and i dont think god cares about homosexuality...thats part of the whole "free will" thing! my god's more like jeff spicoli from fast times at ridgemont high...he's just hanging out, between catching some cool waves, and watching it all unfold, and if you fuk up this time...you may have to repeat the grade, but it take alot from him just to wash his hands of you!

Tweet^^^^LMAO!!!!...CLOWN...LOL

TweetWe haven't had a good discussion in a long time so, I'll try to stir it up a little.

Originally Posted by Dzone

I have known many Christians that tell everyone that if they dont pray to ask Jesus into their heart, they are going to burn in HE LL for ETERNITY WITH NO MERCY AND SUFFERING BEYOND WORDS...for real? is that true?

Yeah next time you hear that; tell them their god fits the definition of a bigot. I love that argument, because the Christian philosophy requires that you have a certain belief and if you don't you will be punished - that is by definition a bigot; yet for some reason they do not want to acknowledge that their god is a bigot.

Originally Posted by angryoldman

You know, the world laughs at Scientology, due to ignorance and curiosity. But some Christians aren't far from Scientologists with their strong arm beliefs. Arguing Religion always has been, and always will be, a mute point. Some Christians are like "You WILL believe what I believe!!"

I guess it depends on what your goals are when debating religion. I don't ever go into a debate about religion with the goal of changing people's mind. I just try to plant seeds of logic that will gnaw at their religious foundation and more clearly articulate their own doubts about an irrational faith.

Why do I care? Because bigotry and hypocrisy are two major exports of the western religions and those two concepts could be linked to most, if not all, immorality. So if you can shake the premise on which those two perversions are a result of your improving society.

Originally Posted by daved150

not with my god...he dont play that! that's why he gave you free will...watch...i'll have klash hanging tight with my boy J.C when it's all done with, and klash will be tripping over his toung with the appologies, and me and J.C will just be SHREDDING my boy klash!! it's gonna be a riot...y'alls invited!
i dont do any of the finger pointing...i have my belief's and i dont think god cares about homosexuality...thats part of the whole "free will" thing! my god's more like jeff spicoli from fast times at ridgemont high...he's just hanging out, between catching some cool waves, and watching it all unfold, and if you fuk up this time...you may have to repeat the grade, but it take alot from him just to wash his hands of you!

Your idea of god is more rational and not as bigoted. Your god does not persecute people because they don't possess a particular belief. You do not believe he is out to control things that you yourself cannot control. He's just back observing peoples free will. Your Jesus has taken on the characteristics of some of the more eastern philosophies. So you have already rejected the more mainstream Christian doctrine for a more tolerant version of god. Why, have you rejected it? Probably because the Jesus portrayed in Christian doctrine is still a dlck (sending good people to hell) and it doesn't make since that god of the entire universe couldn't understand a morality that you understand. So as your knowledge grows so does your god's ethics. Once you accept the fact that your god is just a external projection of your own value system - you won't need him any more.

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Originally Posted by Klash

Your idea of god is more rational and not as bigoted. Your god does not persecute people because they don't possess a particular belief. You do not believe he is out to control things that you yourself cannot control. He's just back observing peoples free will. Your Jesus has taken on the characteristics of some of the more eastern philosophies. So you have already rejected the more mainstream Christian doctrine for a more tolerant version of god. Why, have you rejected it? Probably because the Jesus portrayed in Christian doctrine is still a dlck (sending good people to hell) and it doesn't make since that god of the entire universe couldn't understand a morality that you understand. So as your knowledge grows so does your god's ethics. Once you accept the fact that your god is just a external projection of your own value system - you won't need him any more.

you crack me up...trying to get all up in my head n'shyt (scarey place bro, dont trip on anything, lol). i didnt reject anything, you can thank my mom and dad for my belief's! and i pass those on to my kids. and klash...i'm gonna need him atleast untill 15mins after your end! he's gonna be the one to "okie-doke" your stay...wont be as much fun without you there brother!!

(oh...we may need straydog to join us too...he's a funny fuker)

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Originally Posted by angryoldman

You know, the world laughs at Scientology, due to ignorance and curiosity. But some Christians aren't far from Scientologists with their strong arm beliefs. Arguing Religion always has been, and always will be, a mute point. Some Christians are like "You WILL believe what I believe!!"

Totally agree. These people are completely brainwashed from a young age. At one time, I was a total right wing fundamentalist Christian so I know that gang mentality takes over in a church and people really do believe that everyone else in the world is going to burn in hell for eternity. That kind of thinking is rampant throughout many Christian denominations. Many many of these people honest to God think that if you are a homesexual, you arent saved and God will **** you to the "lake of fire" where you will never see the light of day and you will suffer and burn forever as "punishment" for your sins. If you choose to become Hindu or buddhist, You are going to hell to be punished for rejecting Jesus. They love to run around telling everyone: "GOD LOVES YOU"...but if you just, FOR WHATEVER REASON, cant find a way to believe in him, its off to hell to burn FOREVER!!!!...

Tweetwhat i think is funny is that if someone claims to start a new religion nowadays its considered a cult...well..they all start somewhere..some just end up being more accepted than others...christianity is a widely accepted cult..and more so now than hundreds of years ago because they forced it on people from fear and murder...

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Originally Posted by straydoglogic

what i think is funny is that if someone claims to start a new religion nowadays its considered a cult...well..they all start somewhere..some just end up being more accepted than others...christianity is a widely accepted cult..and more so now than hundreds of years ago because they forced it on people from fear and murder...

thats me dude!!! i started the church of dave! i was even looking at buying one of those old wooden steeple churches that was for sale down the street from us...wife shot that one down pretty quick, but i thaught it woulda been great!! lol...i think kite said he was in!! you can join up stray, there's no donations or nothing, it's all good! klash is getting a special invite to be an alter boy...(dont worry klash, rule #1...no crushing on the alter boy's allowed!! you'll be fine!)