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Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetT-Man, I think you are my brother from another mother!
I can't give you any more rep points but I would if I could!!!!!
Originally Posted by T-Man007
Obsessed is a word used by the lazy to describe the dedicated..
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Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetWriting some childrens' books doesnt change the fact that he brutally killed four people. Yes, during his time in prison he has bettered the lives of many kids by writing these, but this doesnt negate what he has done in the past. It's like driving to work in the morning; You can take the straight line drive in, or you can take the long way and help a few in need or pickup a hitchhiker. Regardless, you're stilling going to end up at work (executed).
Platinum
Re: CALIFORNIA
Tweeti agree 100%...i think they should even televize the death penalty being exicuted! and for certain crimes (child mollesting murderers) it should be very painfull!!
sorry for your loss o2...
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Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetA street gang is different from the mob. The mob is very organized to the point were they probably wouldn't make a move without an order. On the street, their are no orders. Its stand on your street and hold down the block and if a rival comes through, then you do what you gotta do. Your not gonna call your leader an be like " hey there's some cobras on our block what should we do?" I've been in it first hand so I know how it goes. So, murder doesn't always happen with an order.
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetEvil Ryu who are you buddy anyways.. newbie I can see but I havent seen you anywhere before.
Seems like you need to do your homework first - dont get this the wrong way but you seem to defend gangs or whatever.
Gangsters are pu$$ies who can`t do shit without their "strapz" and have no balls to fight 1 on 1 just when they are in group.
You can`t compare real gangsters like lets say fictional character Toni Montana or even better AlcaPone.. to some idiots like Crips etc.. I`d like to have little 1 on 1 with those little scrawny fuckers..
FG Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetRyu... one of tookies murder he robbed a 711 for 120 bucks, took the clerk and pointed a gun behind his head execute style and shot him... then spent the $ on PCP....
I agree w/ diggi also... they dont fight 1 on 1 its always 10 on 1 .. and most are scrawny bastards
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetWhat do my buddys have to do with anything? You know what I defend what I think is right and I don't think gangbangin' is right! Pussies who can't do shit? Im sorry do you know somethin about that lifestyle? Tell me somethin. Easier written than done
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetI never said he wasn't guilty. If you kill 4 people then you should be punished. I'm saying he is not responsible for what other crips have done. Both of you got it wrong, not all are scrawny bastards. and even if they were what does have to do with anything?
FG Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
Tweetwell , i think we were just tryhiing to get the point across that most of these gangsters are little cowards...
You're right hes not responsible for other gangsters actions but the 4 he killed he should get the death penalty and nothing but
Elite Senior Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetLets set aside the four people he brutaly murdered for no reason for just one second and look at the bigger picture.
As the founding father of the crips he is responsible for every murder/death the crips have commited. Just Like Charles Manson, he was convicted for the acts of his cult followers. It was never proven that he actually had a hand in any of the murders. To me there is no difference here. He may have turned his life around ( and that gets a huge who fucking cares from me) but the fact remains that the gang HE started is still killing people at will with no remorse...
Just bc this all turned out a different way than he expected doesn't excuse anything he did. Him becoming a "better person" (lmfao) doesn't bring back the ones he has put to death. Who cares what he is doing or saying now, the man should have been killed 20 years ago, then we wouldn't have this problem.
It's time for him to meet his maker and be eternally tortured by the lost souls of his victims. Victims by his hands and his followers hands...it makes no difference.
Purgatory pal, thats what you deserve.
Elite Senior Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetHeres some biblical contradictions for you.
Killing commanded
*Ex 32:27
*Killing forbidden
*Ex 20:13
The blood-shedder must die
Gen 9:5,6
The blood-shedder must not die
Gen 4:15
Judging of others forbidden
*Matt 7:1,2
*Judging of others approved
1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12
God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious
Jer 13:14/ Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19
God is kind, merciful, and good
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/*
1 Tim 2:4/ 1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
Gen 6:5,7
Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
Gen 8:21
Oh, and this little "tid bit"
"Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord.* All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." Leviticus 27:28-29
So, i ask you...who is god to judge?
Elite Senior Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetLet me ask you this then.
If a man creates a bomb to blow up a shed and it blows up an entire community is he not repsonsible for the destruction. Did he intend for it to happen? No, did it happen? Yes...Did he create the problem? yes...
Cult leaders are responsible for the crimes their cult members commit. Any leader of ANY group is responsible for the actions of the group as a whole, gang leaders are no exception to the rule...ignorance is not an excuse. He is and always will be responsible for EVERY action the gang takes (good or bad) he is the creator, he is the founding father....there is nothing left to say.
Elite Senior Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetSorry t-man, i didn't see your post before i posted...sorry to step on your toes bro....
Elite Senior Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
Tweethttps://da.co.la.ca.us/pdf/swilliams....0Williams'
some interesting info to browse through.....
Established Resident
Re: CALIFORNIA
TweetInteresting letter I copy/pasted
>Honorable Governor Schwarzenegger,
>
>I personally knew, worked, and monitored Tookie from the early 1970's
>until he was arrested for the murders for which he has been convicted
>and now awaits the final disposition of the jury's verdict. I was a
>gang cop in South Central Los Angeles for almost twenty years. My first
>contact with Tookie was when he was still a teenager staying on Slater St., in Compton.
>He was living in one of the Fred Shaw Homes for boys. He later stayed
>in the Bob Simmon's Home for Boys on Atlantic Blvd. in Compton. He
>conned them into believing he had stopped his life of crime, all the
>while continuing to gang bang" hard. They made him a peer group
>counselor. I wonder how many kids, that lived in those same homes with
>Tookie, life's were destroyed or negatively impacted as a result of
>them being placed there with him.
>
>Tookie did not co-found the Crip Gang. The Crips were started on the
>West Side of Los Angeles in a relatively small neighborhood by Raymond
>Washington
> Tookie was a second tier member of the Crips that formulated on the
>East side of Los Angeles, e.g. Compton, etc.
>
>Tookie was an egotist who strived for recognition. In my opinion his
>intellect was average at best. That might be a stretch. His claim to
>fame was just the fact he was muscular and physically imposing. (No
>disrespect to
>you)
>
>Tookie didn't even have his own neighborhood Crip gang. The Crip gang
>is made up of hundreds of small neighborhood gangs. Each neighborhood has its'
>own leaders. A significant number of them don't even know members of
>other neighborhood Crip gangs. Most importantly, none of them ever took
>orders from Tookie.
>
>I will admit Tookie did have some influence on "some" Crip gangs. This
>was only due to his size. I'm sure when you walked into various gyms
>around the world there would be hundreds of admiring body builders that
>would gather around you. It was the same with various Crip gang
>members. I can remember how bare chested Tookie and Jamel Barnes,
>along with a bunch of other hanger ons", would walk, run, fight,
>intimidate, and rob innocent people trying to enjoy themselves at the
>Watts Festivals. Because of Tookie, and others like him, the Festival had to be eventually shut down.
>
>Tookie is no author. Tookie's books were written by a lady who is
>infatuated with him. She is also a member of the anti-death penalty
>crowd. All, "at risk", young people would be impacted more by Tookie's
>story when the will of the people are carried out. Conversely though,
>he will be an even greater hero to these same "at risk" youths if he
>beats the system again.
>
>Tookie has not reformed. If he had sincerely reformed the first thing
>out of his mouth would be to tell the world how sorry he is for taking
>the life of at least four innocent people. We also believe he may have
>murdered two other people in San Bernadino County, but that still has
>not be proven.
>Tookie's own prison guard, who spends time with him daily, says Tookie
>still tries to give out orders in the prison and shows no signs of
>remorse.
>
>The Hollywood crowd never met, nor do they even know Tookie. Most of
>the Hollywood group that have come out in support of Tookie have never
>even experienced one day of real life themselves. Life is make believe to them.
>Even Snoop Dog, who takes great pride in being a gangster himself,
>didn't know Tookie.
>
>Tookie is no hero. Tookie is nothing more than a murderous con with an
>egotistical personality. I believe he is enjoying every minute of this
>debate. He is exactly where he has always wanted, tried, and enjoyed being.
>The center of attention! Hero? Hardly. Ask the loved ones of the
>victims that Tookie so callously took their lives. They will tell you
>if he is a hero or not.
>
>Governor Schwarzenegger you can be the hero that Tookie is not. You can
>personally have the greatest impact on "at risk" young people by
>carrying out the will of the people. By letting the final disposition
>of the jury's verdict be carried out, it will graphically show these
>"at risk" youth crime really does not pay. It will also re-enforce the
>fact that there is nothing in the life for a gang banger, but a dead
>end.
>
>Respectfully submitted,
>
>Curtis Jackson
>Gang Unit
>LASD Ret'd
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