That's kind of what I wanted to know. I have been building computers since 286's but I can't get a job in a computer store because I don't have a certificate...that shit sucks don't it. Anyway they all seem to make the same promises, they all cost about the same, I pretty much just want the piece of paper so I can walk in and say "see here". I just didn't want to get one and have them say "hehe where did you get that one". Shit there are probably 20 gyms with in 10 miles of me and there is at least one ad a week for "CPT". (hopefully some Blonde with big...ah never mind"