Tweet"Godis ironic and i will meet him even if i dont beleive in him, now that is smart!"

I agree with that idea, i couldnt imagine why "god" would give us these complex brains that are able to imagine and believe whatever they want for nothing. Thats almost like a person having a child and if the kid didnt beleive what the parent wanted them to the parent would kick them out of their house and dis-own them. I dont believe fora second that god is that jugemental ..but i know others disagree

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Originally posted by solidground
"Godis ironic and i will meet him even if i dont beleive in him, now that is smart!"

I agree with that idea, i couldnt imagine why "god" would give us these complex brains that are able to imagine and believe whatever they want for nothing.....

That much is true. God doesn't exist BECAUSE we believe in him. He simply exists.

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Originally posted by 3Vandoo
you have to review what he says, and think hard and between the line, to say not smart, hell no, its the ironic part of the saying that brings sense, God is ironic and I will meet God even if I dont believe in him, now that is smart!

In that respect I can understand what he is saying. I didn't know it was subliminal LOL

TweetIts very easy to live today and not believe that someone could walk on water or cure the blind or bring a man back to life who's been dead for 2 or 3 days. But it's documented and by more than one person. If you dont believe a group of eyewitness accounts then there should be no eyewitnesses to todays crimes. If a jury will take the word of a person who see's something then I have to have faith that the four apostles wrote the truth. You have to believe the whole bible or none at all. It's all or nothing. God says "I hate luke warm, let your yes be yes and your no be no". There is no middle road. Either you believe or you don't, there is no gray area.

As far as life on Mars, that's just another theory. What is funny though is how the age of the earth keeps getting older and older. This is being done to support the theory of evolution, who's creator denounced it by the way when he couldn't prove it. If evolution is real then during the past 10,000 years we should have see some form of human evolution. There should be elephants on two legs now. Something. But the truth is there's nothing. No species has been through any "documented" evolution. Just speculation of how they all evolved to their current state. I don't think or care if there was life on Mars. There are many planets with frozen water. However, not all water supports life. Look at the dead sea. Not one thing can survive in it. It's water. So even if mars had water it doesn't mean it had life. If they find a fossil, well, that's a whole different story all together. But you'll have to ask yourself, did the fossil come from Mars or did it land on Mars as a result of some asteroid. There are too many unknowns about space. One thing is this. The big bang theory supports creation because it says that everything living started at point zero. Duh, God created everything. God has always been. There is no way to create what isn't living, he just is. It's more then we can fathom so we have to believe.

The most interesting thing is the astrophysicists who are now saying that the speed of light is slowing down (with proof). That puts an end to the infinity of space theory. One thing you will see about all scientific theories is that they one day they will get proven wrong or replaced by a new one. There are even atheist scientists who dont believe in evolution. Without a physical link there is no proof, without proof there is no evolution. So the intelligent man has to use common sense. No one saw it, no one can prove, no one should believe it.

TweetWell said T-man.

God's ways are above our ways, His thoughts are above our thoughts.

TweetHulk, in the beginning, incest was necessary for us to multiply. Once there were enough people, it was no longer necassary and therefore forbiden. I think you're a little mininformed on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not an absolute. Theroies have to stand the test of time and evolution isn't doing so well. If you check out any scientific debate forum you'll see that the more information we get ond dna, etc.... the more the evolutionists are getting their butts kicked. Evolution only takes place on a micro scale, not enough to evolve one species into another.

TweetWhat do u mean once there was enough people, If you belive that adam and eve no matter who you have sex with today is still your family right? Also if that was true wouldnt there be more mentally challenged people and more people with chronic illness bc thats one of the reason why interbreeding is forbidden

TweetWhat age was it when adam and eve were made if anyone knows?

TweetI think that enough time has elapsed that we don't have to worry about that. Here is an interesting time table on the subject.
Table:
Expected Population Growth in Adam's Lifetime
According to Genesis 5, life spans from Adam to Noah averaged 912 years. Each of the patriarchs mentioned had "other sons and daughters" in addition to the sons recorded by name. The table calculations are based on:
life span = 900 years,
first child comes at age 50,
child bearing years =500, and
one child every 5 years during child bearing years.

year reproducing couples children born total population
0 1 0 2
50 1 0 2
100 1 10 12
150 6 30 42
200 21 100 142
250 71 352 494
300 247 1210 1704
350 852 4180 5884
400 2941 14,450 20,334
450 10,167 49,892 70,226
500 35,113 172,358 242,584
550 121,292 595,378 837,962
600 418,980 2,056,530 2,894,492
650 1,447,245 7,103,862 9,998,364
700 4,999,176 24,538,536 34,536,930
750 17,268,444 84,762,338 119,299,368
800 59,649,613 292,790,780 412,090,500
850 206,045,003 1,011,374,120 1,423,465,830
900 711,732,063 3,493,544,650 4,917,014,660



Now you can multiply this out to accomadate that approx. amount of time that's elapsed since this and get an idea of how diluted the gene pool is. Of course this isn't absolute. What it does, is it gives us a general idea of how quickly we could have populated, as time drew on it was also not necessary for us to live that length of time.

Tweetso your saying people lived 900 years? What i was trying to say is there would hve been alot of mentall challenged kids back then not now, and also sickness would kill alot of them off

TweetHulk,

People were much more pure then. No desease, no viruses, no small pox, get the picture? And it's not that we all come from Adam and Eve but that we all come from Noah and his family. Everyone died in the flood except Noah, his daughters and son-in-laws. They repopulated the earth. Since they were not siblings there was no inbreeding. The mentally challenged kids of today are by-products of the drugs, medicines, alcohol, smoking, over the counter meds, impurities in water, preservatives and just plain old undeveloped or damaged neurotransmitters in the brain.

You cant fill the human body with all the antiboitics and preservatives and other crap we consume without some negative side effects. You also have to take into account fertility drugs. Things aren't natural like they were then. Back then things were pure and natural so there were less complications. Which explains why there is more mental damage now. Just look at ADD and ADHD. 95% of those cases are kids with hyperactive responses to sugar. 95%. But the drug balances it out so the parents keep giving them sugar. I have seen several kids who were diagnosed as ADD or ADHD taken off sugar and high glycemic index carbs and they no longer showed any signs of ADD or ADHD. How is that possible? According to science there is no cure for it but yet these kids are cured. Or did they even have an illness? Hmmmm....

Tweetyea i c what your saying t man but did people live 900 years??

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Originally posted by T-Man007
Hulk,

People were much more pure then. No desease, no viruses, no small pox, get the picture? And it's not that we all come from Adam and Eve but that we all come from Noah and his family. Everyone died in the flood except Noah, his daughters and son-in-laws. They repopulated the earth. Since they were not siblings there was no inbreeding. The mentally challenged kids of today are by-products of the drugs, medicines, alcohol, smoking, over the counter meds, impurities in water, preservatives and just plain old undeveloped or damaged neurotransmitters in the brain.

You cant fill the human body with all the antiboitics and preservatives and other crap we consume without some negative side effects. You also have to take into account fertility drugs. Things aren't natural like they were then. Back then things were pure and natural so there were less complications. Which explains why there is more mental damage now. Just look at ADD and ADHD. 95% of those cases are kids with hyperactive responses to sugar. 95%. But the drug balances it out so the parents keep giving them sugar. I have seen several kids who were diagnosed as ADD or ADHD taken off sugar and high glycemic index carbs and they no longer showed any signs of ADD or ADHD. How is that possible? According to science there is no cure for it but yet these kids are cured. Or did they even have an illness? Hmmmm....

Now that is good preachin!
It seems that "primitivism" in our eating and medicainal habits would keep the immune system strong and able to withstand common issues. However, you can see through the course of history how VSE's (virgin soil epidemics) caused serious problems with natives who were not previously exposed to certain diseases.
Personally . . .I haven't been to a doctor for three years. I have recovered from Lyme Disease, Chronic Fatigue, and have learned to deal with severe hypoglycemic tendencies. All NATURAL! In fact when I went natural . . . I strated weight training and went from a sickly 152 to a good lookin 183-185 in about a year. I have some more on since and have become a little chem enhanced but my roots are def in the nat.