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Originally Posted by pgc640

that's really great to say and you're right 100%. if everybody could afford human trope everybody should take you in trouble the problem is there's people working check out there who can't afford the ridiculous price of human growth on United States made human growth hormones so they have to go to the other brands I don't know how good these other brands are with their much cheaper

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it's been awhile since HGH has been out on the market now so it's got to lose its patent soon meaning generics should be able to be made meaning the price should come down of the US brands. I'm not sure when that's going to happen if they usually hold the patent for 10 or 15 years but it has to be close to that by now. I mean they really really up the price on that stuff I mean they really milked every penny they could out of that

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Originally Posted by pgc640

it's been awhile since HGH has been out on the market now so it's got to lose its patent soon meaning generics should be able to be made meaning the price should come down of the US brands. I'm not sure when that's going to happen if they usually hold the patent for 10 or 15 years but it has to be close to that by now. I mean they really really up the price on that stuff I mean they really milked every penny they could out of that

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Oh GH lost his pat in a long time ago That's why there's a bunch of different brands out there now once it had its patent still the patents only good for 10 to 15 years I forget but if you have the patent only one brand is out there I think it was Eli Lily. But now if you see there's a bunch of different pharmaceutical companies out there. And it did it did take the price down but it's still ridiculous if you don't have quite a bit of money in the US because if you want it get it legally in the US you got to go to an anti-aging clinic where no insurance is going to cover and pay them what they want which is probably like $1,500 I don't know I'm guessing then you have to pay for the medication itself because I don't think the insurance company is going to cover it for an off label use. And human growth hormone even though it's come down the price of it in the US is still insane even at a pharmacy I mean it depends on how much money you have I mean anybody that wants to use growth who would choose to use these blue tops or gray tops or black tops I mean what the hell is in that? Of course I would want to use humatrope. It's a it's a thing a money thing basically. But yeah they're patent ran out a long time ago

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Originally Posted by pgc640

Oh GH lost his pat in a long time ago That's why there's a bunch of different brands out there now once it had its patent still the patents only good for 10 to 15 years I forget but if you have the patent only one brand is out there I think it was Eli Lily. But now if you see there's a bunch of different pharmaceutical companies out there. And it did it did take the price down but it's still ridiculous if you don't have quite a bit of money in the US because if you want it get it legally in the US you got to go to an anti-aging clinic where no insurance is going to cover and pay them what they want which is probably like $1,500 I don't know I'm guessing then you have to pay for the medication itself because I don't think the insurance company is going to cover it for an off label use. And human growth hormone even though it's come down the price of it in the US is still insane even at a pharmacy I mean it depends on how much money you have I mean anybody that wants to use growth who would choose to use these blue tops or gray tops or black tops I mean what the hell is in that? Of course I would want to use humatrope. It's a it's a thing a money thing basically. But yeah they're patent ran out a long time ago

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anti aging clinics will not use insurance for anything they provide services for and the current cost from one of the companies i have seen for us pharm gh is between 900-1k. sad thing is if you get it from a hookup it is going to cost that or more. it is out there both legal and the alternative but you are going to be carrying a very empty wallet. lots of good generics out there though at a fraction of the price

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anti aging clinics will not use insurance for anything they provide services for and the current cost from one of the companies i have seen for us pharm gh is between 900-1k. sad thing is if you get it from a hookup it is going to cost that or more. it is out there both legal and the alternative but you are going to be carrying a very empty wallet. lots of good generics out there though at a fraction of the price

I know there are a whole bunch of these grey area companies selling 100-150 IU kits for 200-300$.
I was skeptical but about the only steroids I use are dragon pharma and I've used everything( I'm 50 started this at 16) . I've used stuff straight from US pharmacy, European pharma grade was what was mostly around in the early and late 90s of course that stuff is the best. However I do not see any difference between the dragon pharma stuff and the 0harma grade stuff I have used. D) is definitely a good product. From what I hear they basically have their own lab that's just like a pharmaceutical lab it's just not licensed I'm not sure exactly where it is somewhere in Asia but I don't think it's in China though but it might be. I've used about all their products except the somatropine, which I'm about to order, and I think every single one was right on the money dose wise and never had a sterility problem. Plus it's pretty cheap for the quality if you find a good source. I get it from Europe, it take about 2-3 weeks but I would rather wait than buy something I can get faster but I have no idea if it's any good or if it's sterile. So I stick with the dragon pharma. The only other brand I may use is from 7labs pharma in Sweden. It's a bit cheaper than DP and , for me, I never had a quality issue with them either.


Anyway that's what I am going to do what you mentioned I'm about to order four boxes of what they call dragontroping dragon pharma SomaTropin 10 vials 10 Ius a vial for $200. That a good price though I usually see it around $300.


Never used it but heard nothing but good feedback from those who have, even saying it's just as good as any pharma brand, we'll see.

Also was told a brand called KAPLA makrs a 100 Iu kit also for $180. Friend of mine swears by it and he switched from nordotropin I think it's called, a pharma brand, to this kapla for financial reasons. Said his serum levels stayed same as did his igf1. So, if looking for something cheaper it is out there.

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