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      Iíve always heard hgh takes a while to kick in and should be run for a longer period of time.

      So I have a question,

      is it better to run a lower dosage say 2-3 per day for a longer durations of approximately 12 months

      Or

      is it better to work up to 6ius per day and stay there for about 7 months?

      Also is there any science or pros/cons to doing those 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off splits or is that just a way to save money or prolong the use?


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      Default Re: Hgh, usage duration question.

      Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
      Iíve always heard hgh takes a while to kick in and should be run for a longer period of time.

      So I have a question,

      is it better to run a lower dosage say 2-3 per day for a longer durations of approximately 12 months

      Or

      is it better to work up to 6ius per day and stay there for about 7 months?

      Also is there any science or pros/cons to doing those 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off splits or is that just a way to save money or prolong the use?


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      I would run 12 months at 2 -3 a day and I do the 5 on 2 off. I use the 5 on 2 off for sake of money.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ric View Post
      I would run 12 months at 2 -3 a day and I do the 5 on 2 off. I use the 5 on 2 off for sake of money.

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      Good to know.

      If I end up doing what Iím kind of throwing around I should be able to run 4ius per day if I do the 5/2 split.

      Month 1: 2ius
      Month 2: 3ius
      Month 4-12: 4ius


      Originally I planned on doing 4ius everyday for the entire 12 months but right after I placed my order the place I ordered from got busted and I lost my money. I donít have the same budge this time around so Iíll either have to run a lower dose, lower time or do the split.

      I just wanted to see what everyone else said to see if it was even worth it running at this point.


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      Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
      Good to know.

      If I end up doing what I’m kind of throwing around I should be able to run 4ius per day if I do the 5/2 split.

      Month 1: 2ius
      Month 2: 3ius
      Month 4-12: 4ius


      Originally I planned on doing 4ius everyday for the entire 12 months but right after I placed my order the place I ordered from got busted and I lost my money. I don’t have the same budge this time around so I’ll either have to run a lower dose, lower time or do the split.

      I just wanted to see what everyone else said to see if it was even worth it running at this point.


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      i like that setup of ramping up. it will lessen the cts issues and other side effects.

      so the reason to go 5 on and 2 off is not just from a money side. your body will develop anti bodies and start to fight the external gh over time and it also shuts down t3 production. so to semi combat this the 5on 2 off helps to an extent. you also need to supplement with t4 or better yet 12.5 to 25mcg of t3 to keep the thyroid from being down regulated with gh use. it also makes you insulin resistant over time as well. so adding in a small amount of log or humilin r around training will also help with this as well. all stuff to make your gh use optimal
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      i like that setup of ramping up. it will lessen the cts issues and other side effects.

      so the reason to go 5 on and 2 off is not just from a money side. your body will develop anti bodies and start to fight the external gh over time and it also shuts down t3 production. so to semi combat this the 5on 2 off helps to an extent. you also need to supplement with t4 or better yet 12.5 to 25mcg of t3 to keep the thyroid from being down regulated with gh use. it also makes you insulin resistant over time as well. so adding in a small amount of log or humilin r around training will also help with this as well. all stuff to make your gh use optimal
      Sounds good. I remember the t3 issue from last time we talked about this. Iím also aware of the insulin issue but Iím not comfortable using that yet.

      This may seem silly but i know itís smart to ramp up but is there a reason to ramp down at all or is it fine to just stop taking it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
      Sounds good. I remember the t3 issue from last time we talked about this. I’m also aware of the insulin issue but I’m not comfortable using that yet.

      This may seem silly but i know it’s smart to ramp up but is there a reason to ramp down at all or is it fine to just stop taking it.


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      no need to ramp down with gh. most people just ramp up slowly to prevent cts issues which are brutal painful and make stuff impossible to do with your hands. same goes with some water on the joints initially at starting higher
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      Ok makes sense. Iíve always known about ramping up, never heard anyone ramp back down but figured it couldnít hurt to ask


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      Default Re: Hgh, usage duration question.

      I would use 2-3 ius everyday if I could.

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      2-3iu per day is typically what I do as well. I've ramped it up before for periods of time, but I always come back to 2-3iu per day. I guess I just feel the best bang for my buck at that dose lol.
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      Cool well see what happens. I plan on doing 5 on 2 off.
      2ius for a month.
      3ius month 2
      4ius month 3
      5ius for the rest of the year until it runs out.

      If I donít like 5ius or the 5on 2 off split for some reason Iíll lower the dose and run it daily instead.


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      How common and how worried should I be about redness, tenderness and a lump with subq stomach injections?

      Did 1 shot of 1iu of gh to see how it would go.
      Shot was fine and no pain when injecting.
      No pain the rest of the day.

      Next day I notice a red spot and a lump, not uncommon.
      No pain but a little tender if I touched it.

      The day after that the red spot was bigger.
      The lump was the same size and injection site hurt to the touch.

      Day after that the redness was almost gone and lump was smaller. Pain was much less.

      4 days later there almost no more redness.
      Very small lump you have to like search for and no pain unless I really press on it.

      So basically Iím used to redness and pip and what not but Iím new to gh or any injections in stomach so Iím just checking.

      It took 4 days from injection to be normal.

      My concern is Iíll be doing a shot everyday. If this is how it goes every shot everyday it could be a problem.

      Am I have a reaction? Should i discontinue?


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      its a minor reaction and shouldnt be an issue. it happens from time to time. go higher or lower and make sure the alcohol you use to clean the area has completely evaporated prior to inj. u can also go sub q at the top of your thigh, if the it continues to get aggervated. the upper thigh isnt as sensitive as the ab area is. i wouldnt sweat it though. i get it when the gh i am using isnt as pure
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      Quote Originally Posted by guns01 View Post
      its a minor reaction and shouldnt be an issue. it happens from time to time. go higher or lower and make sure the alcohol you use to clean the area has completely evaporated prior to inj. u can also go sub q at the top of your thigh, if the it continues to get aggervated. the upper thigh isnt as sensitive as the ab area is. i wouldnt sweat it though. i get it when the gh i am using isnt as pure
      Cool. Yeah they are generics so itís not pharmacy stuff so I figured. Thanks for the info.


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      Default Re: Hgh, usage duration question.

      Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
      Iíve always heard hgh takes a while to kick in and should be run for a longer period of time.

      So I have a question,

      is it better to run a lower dosage say 2-3 per day for a longer durations of approximately 12 months

      Or

      is it better to work up to 6ius per day and stay there for about 7 months?

      Also is there any science or pros/cons to doing those 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off splits or is that just a way to save money or prolong the use?


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      The quick answer is absolutely no there's no scientific research or anything on how to use HGH optimally for bodybuilding.

      Your entirely right HGH needs to be run over a long period of time it is not a drug that you could take for 2 months and expect any tremendous gains it works over a long period of time it works very well over a long period of time along with anabolics. I truly believe a lower dose for a longer time is way better than a higher dose for a shorter time. The last time I used GH I used three IUS everyday for 24 weeks and got tremendous results. I grew a lot more in those 24 weeks than I usually would have but mostly was how lean it kept me no matter what I did. I was growing and staying about five 6% body fat no matter what I did.

      Again this is all speculation there's no scientific resources it is all my opinion based on personal experience and watching others and talking to others. It also has to do with your budget if I had enough money I was a little short at the time I would have rather have used four ius a day but that's as high as I would ever go with GH. These guys taking nine Ius 12 Ius 20 I think it's ridiculous.

      Everybody's different man my my recommendation to you would be try a lower dose for a long period of time I actually had good results with two ius a day and one time very good results especially fat burning and definitely increase muscle growth when mixed with anabolics even at 2 ius a day but for a long period of Time 5 6 months.

      I don't have personal experience with high doses over short periods of time but I do know a lot of people that have tried that and it seems to not give them the results they are looking for. The one thing you want to avoid with GH is that the distended stomach. It seems like that only happens in very large dosages for pretty long periods of time that's why I would never go past four a day.

      Also I'd like to touch on insulin use which I think is totally overblown just like thyroid use. I have never used GH without insulin and I'll tell you how I've used the insulin and this is how I was told to use insulin by two of the best trainers in the late 1990s that I use for contest prep. I would take five IU's of humulin R before breakfast. After training bring your HGH to the gym in a cooler with an ice pack and as soon as you're done training shoot your HGH. Go home 30 to 40 minutes later do your 5 to 10 ius of insulin, humulin r, with something like orange juice grape juice some kind of high sugar juice and about 5 mg of creatine. Right after that you can either have a protein shake or a meal. The guidelines that were set out when people first started using insulin was to use about 10 g of carbs per iu of insulin but that is too high in my opinion. If you want to be safe use that because you will never have a problem using that much. So if you use five IU's of insulin you have to take in 50 g of carbs. I've used insulin several times and never had a single problem and I've known so many bodybuilders professionals top amateurs also never had any problems. Insulin can kill you yes but a lot of things can kill you if you're an idiot and you don't take care of yourself and do it the right way.

      When I was competing in the late 90s the big thing was the mixture of HGH, insulin and t3. I left a t3 out a lot just because my metabolism is a lot faster than most people but that combination on someone with a normal metabolism will have profound effects on somebody.

      Please don't go out and do this if you're a beginner or never competed before or never plan on competing this is overkill. I only did this when I started competing nationally for the junior Nationals and the USA. If I wasn't at that level I would have never done something like this so I'm pretty much talking to people that are competitors want to be competitors or guys that just want to be gigantic for whatever reason. A normal kid in the gym that just wants to look good for the girls for the beach you do not need HGH insulin or t3. On the other hand I'm not going to bullshit anybody and I'm going to be straightforward people ask a question I'm going to answer it I'm not going to pull punches.

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      If you want true quality results go with Pharma grade. There is a big difference in the 2 of generic and Pharm. sazien is my first choice Humatrope is my 2nd choice and sero's would be my 3rd choice just basing off my results in the HGH game. For me I never got the shredded thin skin look and the 3D look off of Generic GH.. Pharma will blow your mind. Theres a reason for that if you do deep research you'll understand. You get what you pay for brother. Theres a reason why generic GH cost little to nothing. Everyone says you won't see results with GH for six months blah blah. Those are your guys running generics. All about trial and error my friend. Just trying to save you time and money. I run 4-6ius. I highly suggest to start out on 2iu for at least the first month then bump up to 4. I do suggest running HGH for 6 months-12 months. And I want to make it clear that I am not knocking anyone for running generic HGH. I have used generic and Pharm both for many years. This is my own personal experience with use and my body. what has worked best for me may not work best for you.

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