OVEREEM TESTED POSITIVE FOR PED'S

[FUZO]

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I honestly beleive Brock wasnt on when he was fighting.But My whole point of this is we all know AO is on steroids and can beat the test when he has to take one. Take his steroids away and he's nothing he's average at best. Wouldnt be as big as strong as fast as quick thats my point. But for someone to bring up chuck or sherk as examples of losing has no comparison. Chuck lost because of age and couldnt take a punch. Sherk lost his super human powers-steroids

[BigDawg]

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true, AO is definitely juicing but lots of them are or were, now that they are implementing out of competition testing i bet lots more get popped. look at Sherk, everyone heard about him getting popped but it wasn't as widepread news when royce gracie got popped for nandrolone when he was making a comeback after getting beat by hughes. very quiet when bonnar got popped for winny and then after leben got popped for winny dana had him go to rehab for pain pills but mostly quiet on the winny front. then chael got popped for test, marquart got popped for test. thiago silva got popped for test and substituted someone else's pee. coleman was always juicing just never got nailed. its there you just don't see it as often unless they have no choice or they've pissed dana off. even rampage got questioned about his trt therapy that was supposedly encouraged to him by a ufc affiliated doctor.

[whitetail]

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Overeem just made himself look real bad. Is anyone really surprised though? I don't know what to think of it. Screwed up a great card.

[BigDawg]

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i love how the doc from mma junkie compared him to a rookie cheating husband, how because his wife doesn't care a rookie cheater will f around without any caution like AO juiced with abandon cuz he's always known when he was up for testing except this time. i also on a somewhat different topic don't know how with all the people in the know about aas someone wouldn't tell these guys that nandrlone is a huge no no if you're subject to testing as that stuff is detectable for up to nine months. sherk and gracie wish they knew earlier i bet.

[tn94z]

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I JUST THINK YOU DONT GET IT. WITHOUT STEROIDS OVEREEM DOESNT WIN HALF THE TIME,BARRY BONDS DOESNT HIT MORE HOME RUNS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. AO WOULD BE WEAKER,SMALLER,SLOWER TO A BROCK WHO WOULD BE BIGGER FASTER STRONGER QUICKER. AND AO KICKS AND PUNCHES WOULDNT BE THE SAME.I GUESS IT COMES DOWN TO EXPEREINCE OF AAS TO KNOW HOW A HUMAN IS WHILE ON AND OFF.AND YOUR POINTS ABOUT SHERK OR CHUCK IS JUST FUNNY. YOU'LL COME UP WITH ANYTHING . SHERK WAS CAUGHT TAKING STEROIDS AND HIS CAREER TOOK A NOSE DIVE, CHUCK GOT OLD AND COULDNT TAKE A PUNCH. BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT AGAIN IT ALL GOES BACK TO AAS AND HOW IT WORKS. ACTUALY TNZ YOUR LOGIC IS WRONG UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN TAKING AAS FOR 20 YEARS AND KNOW THE INS AND OUTS AND WHAT THEY DO AND HAVE BEEN IN THE AAS FIELD FOR 20 YEARS.BEN JOHNSON WINS GOLD MEDAL BECAUSE OF WINSTROL. ISNT ON IT ANYMORE AND DOESNT WIN ANOTHER RACE REMEMBER THAT

I agree I don't have much experience with steroids, but Brock wouldn't be the person he is without them either. So it works both ways. Funny? How young do you think Sherk is man? Hell, he is probably right at 40 himself. I will come up with anything, but is mostly fact. Just because a fighter has used steroinds, doesn't mean they are an ultimate beast! BJ beat the hell out of Sherk when he was juicing. BJ has said there were a few fighers he fought that he knew was using. Franca was a user and got beat while on. I have no doubts whatsoever that AAS gives you the upperhand....but Brock didn't barely lose. He got beat like a redheaded step child by AO...by Cain....and by Carwin until he blew his load. Brock was big, and strong and that was it. Like I said, the guys he couldn't bully whooped his ass.

Now I am not defending AO in any way because I don't think it's right to use and fight in mma. I think the punishment for failing should be much worse than it is. But AO had talent well before the AAS. The guy has always been known for his standup, power, technique, quickness, accuracy, etc....I agree that the grappling may have been different, but AO beats Brock's ass standing no matter what.

[tn94z]

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And Fuzo, I am really not trying to argue with you or anything. I was just stating my opinion on the subject but it seems like every time I do that, you reply back basically saying the things I have said are stupid and make no sense at all. So I respond back. We aren't going to agree on everything, but I respect what you say and don't act like it's just plain stupid man. I have been watching mma as long as anyone and I know what I am talking about when it comes to that subject. As far as AAS, I don't know anything about it really....but I don't pretend to either.

[jipped genes]

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i think they will cut him. they cut other guys for less. like marquardt. he had a similar ratio to overeem. he was a top contender. the diff is he was boring as hell. overeem is not

[O2BESOHUGE]

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IF YOU LOOK BACK AT BROCK IN HIS EARLY DAYS...HES JUST A BIG CORN FED COUNTRY BOY. HE WAS BORN BIG AND HAD NATURAL ATHLETIC TALENT. I TRULY DONT BELIEVE HE TOOK STEROIDS BACK THEN OR HAS NOW. ITS NOT HIS NATURE AND HOW HE WAS RAISED.