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  • Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

    Brock Lesnar is a unique athlete, the once-in-a-generation type.

    That may read like hyperbole to some, but consider facts. Lesnar was a four-time All-American collegiate wrestler—twice at Bismarck State College and twice at the University of Minnesota. He won national championships at both schools and ended his collegiate wrestling career with a 106-5 record.

    The gargantuan heavyweight then spent the next three-plus years of his life accumulating millions of dollars from playing a starring role in the world’s most popular male soap opera—World Wrestling Entertainment. He had to maintain his sculpted, 270- to 290-lb frame for the audience, while also learning crazy acrobatic sequences that were part of his stuntman-like performances. Remember, though, that his time in the WWE included no actual athletic competition. It was pure acting—albeit physically demanding and, oftentimes, physically deteriorating acting, but acting nonetheless.

    Then, after his three-year competitive hiatus, Lesnar decided that he wanted to play professional football. No, not Arena League ball. Not the XFL. Not NFL Europa. And certainly not the semi-pro version that some bar room heroes play on weekends. He wanted to play defensive tackle in the National Football League. Sure, he had elite NFL size, strength and speed for his position. Lesnar’s 40-yard dash time was reportedly 4.7 seconds. That would have ranked first among defensive tackles at the 2011 NFL Combine. But the guy hadn’t played a down of football since high school. Shockingly, he earned playing time in a couple of preseason games and was a late cut with the Minnesota Vikings.

    With his football stint over, Lesnar turned his attention to mixed martial arts. Lots of accomplished collegiate wrestlers do the same thing, so it was a natural progression in his athletic life. Yet, his foray into the sport was anything but normal.

    Lesnar fought just one time before signing a contract with the world’s biggest and most competitive MMA promotion, the UFC. It was an easy, first-round win over a grossly overmatched opponent. That was the last “gimme” of his career. Three fights later, he defeated Randy Couture for the UFC heavyweight championship.

    Let me repeat that. Brock Lesnar won the UFC heavyweight championship in his fourth professional fight. Not his fourth UFC fight. His fourth professional fight. And for the record, he had exactly zero amateur fights before turning professional.

    Say what you will, but that is a jaw-dropping feat. In my opinion, it is the single-most impressive accomplishment in sports. Can you imagine anyone defeating Georges St-Pierre, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva or any other reigning champ after three career fights? Those things happened back in the dark days of the UFC, when fighters were one-dimensional, part-time fighters, not world class athletes dedicating their lives to the sport of mixed martial arts.

    I’m going to go out on a big, sturdy, safe limb. Nobody will match Lesnar’s accomplishment in any UFC weight class in the next 20 years, if ever.

    Haters will cite the fact that Couture was tailor made for Lesnar. I don’t disagree with that fact. Couture didn’t have the wrestling edge, so he could neither force the fight to the ground, nor keep it standing. He was a serviceable boxer but lacked the power to actually hurt Lesnar on the feet. And Couture has never been a submission wizard from his back. From a matchup standpoint, Couture was the perfect foil for Lesnar’s championship run. But he was still competing against the most decorated fighter in UFC history.

    Lesnar proved his win over Couture was no fluke over his next two fights, both wins. Frank Mir is arguably the best heavyweight submission fighter in the world, and certainly a far better striker than Lesnar. Yet, he was beaten from pillar to post over two brutal rounds, unable to mount any semblance of an offensive attack against the champion before succumbing to strikes.

    Shane Carwin, like Lesnar, is a monstrous physical specimen with amazing athleticism. He also possesses bone-crushing power in both of his fists. Lesnar survived adversity through most of the first round before dominating Carwin in the second en route to a beautiful submission win.

    Lesnar’s two consecutive successful defenses of the UFC Heavyweight Championship matches the record set initially set by Couture and then matched by Andrei Arlovski and Tim Sylvia. His 707 consecutive day reign is the longest in UFC heavyweight history, 84 days longer than the previous record established by Couture. I don’t care if part of that time was spent sidelined due to his health. He still defended the belt as many times as anyone else, including one defense after diverticulitis reared its ugly head.

    Of course, his fall from greatness was just as sharp as his rise through the sport. My good friend Thomas Gerbasi put it best. Lesnar’s career was like a shooting star—it didn’t last long and it burned out at the end, but when it was at its peak, it was something you wouldn’t miss seeing for the world. It is a brilliant description of Lesnar’s MMA career.

    Dare I say that Brock Lesnar deserves to be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame now that he has hung up the vale tudo gloves. His career accomplishments justify it, despite the fact that he only competed eight times. Those accomplishments bear repeating. UFC heavyweight champion in his fourth career fight. Two successful defenses ties for the best all-time. Reigning for 707 days is the longest in history.

    Not a bad eight fight career. Not bad at all. In fact, I think it is an eight fight career that will never be duplicated.



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    Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

    hell, i hope not!!!
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      Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

      for UFC's sake I hope not...

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        Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

        I THINK OVEREEM HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO BE THE NEXT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP
        ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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          Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

          Originally posted by daved150 View Post
          hell, i hope not!!!

          I totally agree.
          Let's evaluate his career, shell we?

          He wrestled in the WWE and became a World Champion. He was introduced as "The Next Best Thing" only to quit after about 2 years or less. Lost his title to Bill Goldburg, who resigned from WWE at the exact same time.

          Tried out for the Vikings and lost.

          Fought for, then quit, then returned to the UFC.

          Let's see, maybe he'll find another career to experiment with in Y2K12.
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            Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

            Brock did not quit. His standards werent where he wanted them . So I hope he dedicates a year of complete training and come bacvk but he did not quit. Can any of us say we tried out nfor the vikings or was in the wwf or the ufc,NOPE He did better then anyone thought. He wasnt ready for a kick boxer nor did he know how to check those kicks.
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              Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

              IF HE WOULD DEDICATE A WHILE TO TRAINING WITH THE BEST OUT THERE, I COULD SEE HIM COMING BACK AND BEING A THREAT TO ANY OF THE HEAVY WEIGHTS. HES JUST GOT TO DECIDE IF HE WANTS IT BAD ENOUGH. BROCK IS STILL NOT USED TO GETTING HIT HARD LIKE EVERYONE ELSE THATS BEEN TRAINING THEIR WHOLE LIFE ALSO
              ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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                Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

                That stuff is true, but name a HW fighter in MMA that had the career Brock did in that few of fights and no experience?
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                  Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

                  Originally posted by tn94z View Post
                  That stuff is true, but name a HW fighter in MMA that had the career Brock did in that few of fights and no experience?
                  no one...he was spoon fed!! i'm WAY not a fan...i dont care what he did that i didnt..i've grossed 1.8million dollars in a 28 day month...has he? i've rode horse back accross the entire state with nothing but a map and a cantine at the age of 10, has he? we've all done shyt that other hasnt...dosnt mean i have to respect, admire or appreciate the man...
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                    Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

                    Originally posted by daved150 View Post
                    no one...he was spoon fed!! i'm WAY not a fan...i dont care what he did that i didnt..i've grossed 1.8million dollars in a 28 day month...has he? i've rode horse back accross the entire state with nothing but a map and a cantine at the age of 10, has he? we've all done shyt that other hasnt...dosnt mean i have to respect, admire or appreciate the man...
                    Very true but I mean, you can say that about anyone in any sport and just anyone in general as far as that goes. But while talking about MMA, he had an above average career with no experience, albeit short.

                    He beat the crap out of 2 ex-champs, beat crap out of the UFC's gatekeeper, which is the initial test of potential, beat the next best thing, and then lost to the new champ (at the time), and a K1 world kickboxing champ. I'm not saying anyone has to respect, admire, or appreciate him...but you can't take away the fact that the man did what he did and it probably won't ever happen again.

                    As for being spoon fed, I wouldn't call having to fight Mir (twice), Couture, Carwin, Velasquez, and Overeem spoon fed. He would have beat the majority of anyone else.

                    And this is coming from a guy that doesn't even like Brock
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                      Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

                      HE CERTAINLY POUNDED MIR THAT SECOND TIME!
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                      • #12
                        Re: Will There Ever Be Another Brock Lesnar?

                        Originally posted by TheChosen1 View Post
                        I totally agree.
                        Let's evaluate his career, shell we?

                        He wrestled in the WWE and became a World Champion. .

                        this is like being the winner at the special olympics, it means nothing. script writer said he will be world champ of something not a sport. sorry, fake "wrastling " sticks in my craw

                        he should try naga competition, he does not get hit and is a huge HW. not much $ in it but to fill his need for competition it would be good
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