without a doubt chuck will win this if he keeps his gaurd up bottom line. all his last lossed have come from chuck dropping his left and getting tagged end of story, If he keeps his gaurd up and just does what chuck does its a knock out no problem.You look at chucks last 3-4 losses he was out of shape but yet still in the fight in all of them if not winning until his gaurd dropped and got clipped. chuck all the way.I like rich but rich is going to get knocked out
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I think Rich is too smart of a fighter to lose. I like Chuck and if he connects, he can get it done, but I am picking Rich on this one"He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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The thing is that everyone knows that the right is Chuck's money shot.....Game plan=stay away from that right. One of the easier guys to develop a game plan for IMO."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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I am not counting Chuck out by any means. I really like both guys. I think it will all come down to Chuck. If he comes in and mixes things up like he has said that he is going to do, then that will really set that right hand up. If he comes out and tried the counter puncher style waiting on the right to land, he will get beat."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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Originally posted by tn94z View PostI think Rich is too smart of a fighter to lose. I like Chuck and if he connects, he can get it done, but I am picking Rich on this one
i would like to see chuck win. but i like both guys alot
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I want to see Chuck win this one but it will be a good fight that's hard to call. Like and other fight Chuck is in, if he connects its over.Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington
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CHUCKS TIMING ISNT OFF ITS HIM DROPPING HIS GAURD AND GETTING CLIPPED. PLUS HE PARTYING PLAYED A ROLL AND NOW IF YOU LOOK AT HIM ON THE SHOW HE LOOKS IN GREAT SHAPE. lETS ALSO NOT FORGET CHUCK HAS A TON OF WEAPONS LIKE HIS KICKING ABILITY HE NEVER USES HIS WRESTLING HIS TAKE DOWN DEFENSE AND HE HAS A GROUND GAME WE JUST DONT SEE.. WE ARE SO USED TO SEEING CHUCK KNOCK OUT PEOLE THAT WE DONT SEE CHUCK USE ANYTHING ELSE BUT HIS HANDS/ RICH IS GETTING KNOCKED OUT. THEN AFTER RICH I WANT TO SEE CHUCK FIGHT MACHIDA THEN WHEN HE WINS THAT HE FIGHTS THE #1 contender AND WINS THEN SHOGUN AGAIN. CHUCK LOST THAT FIGHT WITH SHOGUN BY HAVING HIS HANDS DOWNDisclaimer: Steroid use is illegal in a vast number of countries around the world. This is not without reason. Steroids should only be used when prescribed by your doctor and under close supervision. Steroid use is not to be taken lightly and we do not in any way endorse or approve of illegal drug use. The information is provided on the same basis as all the other information on this site, as informational/entertainment value.
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I don't see any way Chuck beats Shogun."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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Originally posted by FUZO View PostCHUCKS TIMING ISNT OFF ITS HIM DROPPING HIS GAURD AND GETTING CLIPPED. PLUS HE PARTYING PLAYED A ROLL AND NOW IF YOU LOOK AT HIM ON THE SHOW HE LOOKS IN GREAT SHAPE. lETS ALSO NOT FORGET CHUCK HAS A TON OF WEAPONS LIKE HIS KICKING ABILITY HE NEVER USES HIS WRESTLING HIS TAKE DOWN DEFENSE AND HE HAS A GROUND GAME WE JUST DONT SEE.. WE ARE SO USED TO SEEING CHUCK KNOCK OUT PEOLE THAT WE DONT SEE CHUCK USE ANYTHING ELSE BUT HIS HANDS/ RICH IS GETTING KNOCKED OUT. THEN AFTER RICH I WANT TO SEE CHUCK FIGHT MACHIDA THEN WHEN HE WINS THAT HE FIGHTS THE #1 contender AND WINS THEN SHOGUN AGAIN. CHUCK LOST THAT FIGHT WITH SHOGUN BY HAVING HIS HANDS DOWN
his BJJ isnt at a place where he will ever get a sub other than maybe a guillotine. he dosnt use his kicks often due to the take down factor and he has always fought with his hands out and down he just isnt quick enough to move his head and counter like he used to. thats what made him the fighter he was. move 6" and counter.
maybe its the partying but he he got straight KOd due to his timing being off. its not like the punches that did him in were sneaky he just didnt move like he used to.
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Well, it looks like Chuck will be done if he loses. It doesn't sound too good for Rich if he loses either.
Chuck Liddell is back in action this weekend after a 14-monty layoff. The former UFC light-heavyweight champion was urged to retire by UFC president Dana White after his last loss, but White in the end relented and offered him one more shot - as long as he would agree to cut out his partying and nightclubbing and get serious about training.
Liddell faces former middleweight champion Rich Franklin in a 205lbs match in the headlined bout of UFC 115. Fighters Only spoke to the UFC president yesterday and asked if a loss this weekend will mean the end of the road of Liddell, the former light-heavyweight champion.
“Yes, and I think he will say the same thing. But let me tell you what the difference is - the difference before, when I wanted him retired, was that he wasn’t doing the right thing. He was out partying every night and doing the wrong thing not the right thing. He wasn’t living the life of a professional athlete,” White told us.
“He and I sat down and talked and I will tell you what, he has kept his word. He has been phenomenal shape since the beginning of The Ultimate Fighter and it will be interesting to see how he does. Because Rick Franklin is tough, he is no joke. He had that war with Dan Henderson that many people believe he won, he had the war with Wanderlei Silva - he has fought all the best in the world.”
Liddell is 1-4 in his last five outings and has not won since December 2007 when he earned a decision win over Wanderlei Silva. Like Liddell, Franklin is 1-2 in his last three and this fight has high stakes. Newly arrived at light-heavyweight, Franklin has to assert his place in the division while Liddell is fighting for a chance to stay active and get on one final title run before retirement.
The fight takes place this Saturday night and headlines UFC 115 in Vancouver, Canada. It airs on PPV in the US, ESPN in the UK and various other networks around the world. Certain US theaters are also showing the fight."He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves
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It was his partying that did chuck in and hopefuly chuck will perform like the old chuck. If he kept his word to dana and has put 110% training in and hasnt partied then I dont see why chuck shouldnt win this fight and othersDisclaimer: Steroid use is illegal in a vast number of countries around the world. This is not without reason. Steroids should only be used when prescribed by your doctor and under close supervision. Steroid use is not to be taken lightly and we do not in any way endorse or approve of illegal drug use. The information is provided on the same basis as all the other information on this site, as informational/entertainment value.
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