Strikeforce Tonight!!!

[FUZO]

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I think he should have been able to finish the fight with a dominant position for that long. He def hit like a girl tho.

THANK YOU

[tn94z]

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I think he should have been able to finish the fight with a dominant position for that long. He def hit like a girl tho.

Well, you are saying that GSP sucks too because he was in a dominant position all night long with Hardy (who some think isn't a top fighter) and couldn't finish him.

[JsJs24]

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My opinion was that Shields had a lot of water weight in his face and neck, acne on his upper and lower back, and puffed up and vascular arms. I know he won the fight and do not contest that, but it was pretty obvious to me that he was on gear and I mentioned that while watching the fight. Dan Henderson did not appear to be on anything and looked pretty weak compared to his usual physique. Either way, the fight is over and Shields brought his game and won. Fortunately for him he made it out of the 1st round without getting knocked out. But I am very skeptical that Shields was on gear. We'll never know though and now we can see how he does in the UFC. I was very impressed with Shields on the ground, he appeared to know what he was doing and Henderson is no easy guy to be on the ground with.

[tn94z]

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My opinion was that Shields had a lot of water weight in his face and neck, acne on his upper and lower back, and puffed up and vascular arms. I know he won the fight and do not contest that, but it was pretty obvious to me that he was on gear and I mentioned that while watching the fight. Dan Henderson did not appear to be on anything and looked pretty weak compared to his usual physique. Either way, the fight is over and Shields brought his game and won. Fortunately for him he made it out of the 1st round without getting knocked out. But I am very skeptical that Shields was on gear. We'll never know though and now we can see how he does in the UFC. I was very impressed with Shields on the ground, he appeared to know what he was doing and Henderson is no easy guy to be on the ground with.

Shields is no joke on the ground. He is one of the best BJJ fighters in MMA

[Schiznick]

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Ok, I'm finally gona chime in on the "its obvious he's on something" crap... Sure, he does show some of the signs.. that DOES NOT mean that he took anything illegal... he could, but it doesnt mean just because he's swole and has some acne that he's on something.. the guy wanted to put on some weight/muscle for this fight because he is the smaller guy.. so maybe he went out and did a weight training program like he's never done before, changed up his diet to east a ton of red meat and fatty foods his body isnt used to, and took a bunch of supplements that he's not used to taking.. all that stuff can account for the acne.. I trained for 10 years CLEAN and got accused ALL the time I was on something.. I went from 155lbs to 220 clean and got accused everyday..

[tn94z]

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Ok, I'm finally gona chime in on the "its obvious he's on something" crap... Sure, he does show some of the signs.. that DOES NOT mean that he took anything illegal... he could, but it doesnt mean just because he's swole and has some acne that he's on something.. the guy wanted to put on some weight/muscle for this fight because he is the smaller guy.. so maybe he went out and did a weight training program like he's never done before, changed up his diet to east a ton of red meat and fatty foods his body isnt used to, and took a bunch of supplements that he's not used to taking.. all that stuff can account for the acne.. I trained for 10 years CLEAN and got accused ALL the time I was on something.. I went from 155lbs to 220 clean and got accused everyday..

I wanted to say this same thing, but don't know as much about gear as you guys. I have had many friends that have acne, were swole, etc....and weren't on anything.

[FUZO]

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I went from 155lbs to 220 clean and got accused everyday

AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO GAIN 65 POUNDS


DID YOU DO IT IN 3 MONTHS,PROBABLY NOT. BECAUSE IT TOOK HIM 3 MONTHS TO GAIN 15LBS

He is one of the best BJJ fighters in MMA

HE'S ONE OF THE BEST BJJ FIGHTERS YOU SAY BUT MOUNTED HIM 4 ROUNDS AND COULDNT PUT HIM AWAY. IF HE'S THAT GOOD HE WOULD OF WON THE FIGHT ALOT QUICKER

[tn94z]

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AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO GAIN 65 POUNDS


DID YOU DO IT IN 3 MONTHS,PROBABLY NOT. BECAUSE IT TOOK HIM 3 MONTHS TO GAIN 15LBS






HE'S ONE OF THE BEST BJJ FIGHTERS YOU SAY BUT MOUNTED HIM 4 ROUNDS AND COULDNT PUT HIM AWAY. IF HE'S THAT GOOD HE WOULD OF WON THE FIGHT ALOT QUICKER

So MIR was on steroids too? He did the same thing.


That's just ridiculous. Just because he is that get at BJJ, doesn't mean that he is going to finish everyone once it hits the ground. Come on man, how long have you been watching MMA?

[FUZO]

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your the one that says he is one of the greatest bjj guys out there,so if he's one of the greatest then he should finish the fight when mounted 4 times on someone but he couldnt. especialy a weak depleted dan henderson that night.oh mir didnt gain 65lbs in 3 months.

[tn94z]

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He is one of the greatest. There are a ton of very good BJJ guys that don't finish MMA fights...come on. Look at Royce Gracie losing to Hughes by submission. Hell, his family invented JJ.


65lbs in 3 months???? Shields didn't gain 65lbs in 3 months. Where did that come from?

[tn94z]

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Let me rephrase....Shields is not one of the "greatest"...he is just one of the best ones that use BJJ in MMA

[FUZO]

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He is one of the greatest. There are a ton of very good BJJ guys that don't finish MMA fights...come on. Look at Royce Gracie losing to Hughes by submission. Hell, his family invented JJ.


65lbs in 3 months???? Shields didn't gain 65lbs in 3 months. Where did that come from?

didnt say anyone gained 65lbs in 3 months. shiznick said he gained a total of 65lbs but didnt say how long it took.but i'm curious to see how long it took him to gain 65lbs without the use of anabolic steroids

[Schiznick]

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.. I trained for 10 years CLEAN and got accused ALL the time I was on something.. I went from 155lbs to 220 clean and got accused everyday..

about 10 years

[FUZO]

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about 10 years

HOW COULD ANYONE THINK YOUR ON STEROIDS GAINING 65LBS IN 10YEARS.5LBS A YEAR BIG DEAL,THATS EASY TO ACHEIVE 65LBS IN 10YEARS.



OH AND TNZ YOU SAID FIRST SHEILDS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST THEN YOU SAID NOW HE ISNT ONE OF THE GREATEST.WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND . AND FACTS ARE SHEILDS WAS ON STEROIDS WHICH MADE HIM THE STRONGER FIGHTER THAT NIGHT BUT COULDNT PUT DAN AWAY BECAUSE HE ISNT ALL THAT. THIS IS COMMON SENSE. YOU DONT MOUNT SOMEONE 4 TIMES AND NOT FINISH HIM EVEN IF YOU THINK SHEILDS HAS OK BJJ.DANS A IDIOT FOR NOT TAKING THE FIGHT SERIOUS ENOUGH TO LOSE THE WEIGHT THE PROPER WAY.AND LETS STAY WITH THE 2 FIGHTERS THAT FOUGHT NOT GSP NOT THE GRACIES OR ANYONE ELSE

[tn94z]

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HOW COULD ANYONE THINK YOUR ON STEROIDS GAINING 65LBS IN 10YEARS.5LBS A YEAR BIG DEAL,THATS EASY TO ACHEIVE 65LBS IN 10YEARS.



OH AND TNZ YOU SAID FIRST SHEILDS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST THEN YOU SAID NOW HE ISNT ONE OF THE GREATEST.WHY DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND . AND FACTS ARE SHEILDS WAS ON STEROIDS WHICH MADE HIM THE STRONGER FIGHTER THAT NIGHT BUT COULDNT PUT DAN AWAY BECAUSE HE ISNT ALL THAT. THIS IS COMMON SENSE. YOU DONT MOUNT SOMEONE 4 TIMES AND NOT FINISH HIM EVEN IF YOU THINK SHEILDS HAS OK BJJ.DANS A IDIOT FOR NOT TAKING THE FIGHT SERIOUS ENOUGH TO LOSE THE WEIGHT THE PROPER WAY.AND LETS STAY WITH THE 2 FIGHTERS THAT FOUGHT NOT GSP NOT THE GRACIES OR ANYONE ELSE

Because he isn't the "greatest", he is just one of top BJJ guys in MMA. Oh WAIT A MINUTE NOW.....when you start a debate, we can't bring up another fighter but you bring up fighters CONSTANTLY in other threads. Wow, that means you can't back it up. Haha....I'm done on that one.