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  • #16
    Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    I see what he is saying here though. He admits that if either guy gets him pinned then they will beat him. And Carwin has shown that he has KO power where Brock hasn't KO'd anyone. He has the fights to back this up. I am just ready to see the fight happen.
    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    I am saying this because Carwin has "actually" KO'd people. Brock has yet to KO anyone. Not a TKO....a KO, totally different things
    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    He has landed clean shots, are you kidding me? He landed them on Mir and Herring. Hell, he broke Herring's orbital bone....was that not clean? I am just saying, in the UFC, he has yet to KO anyone even with clean shots. Carwin has. You can't say "well, it took Carwin 9 fights to get a KO" as an argument, because you have no idea how many fights it will take Brock to get one. It may take him 30 fights or he may get one in his next fight. But you do bring up a good point about his submissions! Now he has submission victories and KOs and he has good wrestling. That really makes him seem more dangerous than Brock.

    Another thing...Carwin hasn't had a fight last over 2:11 and that was his first fight!! Other than Brock's first fight....he hasn't won any fights in the first round.
    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    Okay, since we are getting technical. Which guy has the most KOs in the UFC? WHo cares about him beating a guy that had lost his last 2 fights? Chuck has lost his last 2, Couture has a few two in a row losses. That has no bearing on Carwin's KO power. Brock's first opponent was 3-10.

    So they have both fought 4 UFC fighters...who has the KOs? The orbital bone shot was not the only solid shot man. He beat on Herring for 3 rounds and couldn't KO him and Herring could only see out of one eye.

    Bottom line is, when Brock KOs someone, then we have an argument that is backed up by results and not your opinion.
    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    I am not saying that Brock sucks...some people have it and some don't. It's nothing personal. How many guys has GSP KOd? How many people has Randy KOd? Then you have guys like Chuck and Anderson who can freaking KO people walking backwards. Alot of that is technique but that technique has to be accompanied by some natural KO power as well.
    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
    You did the same thing with telling who they have fought which makes no difference. I'm trying to make it look like anything.

    Carwin has KOs....Brock does not! Bottom line. You can't prove otherwise. I do not think its all about KOs or whatever....my whole post are about power. Quit flipping it to try and win an argument that you can't win without facts to back it up.

    I went ahead and did the dirty work for you. This is every post I have made. I only talk about KO power. I never once said Brock doesn't have "power." I never once said that Carwin is a KO king. Now Anderson Silva is a KO king!
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    • #17
      Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

      GET SOME THING STRAIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW DUDE I DONT GET MY FEELINGS HURT HERE AND DONT BE COCKY AND TALK SHIT LIKE THAT. AND YOU ACT IN YOUR WORDS THAT CARWIN IS THE MAN LIKE HE'S IT THE NEW THING.YOU MUST THINK FIGHTERS HAVE TO KO PEOPLE TO PROVE THEM SELF WHICH IS A JOKE


      So let me get this straight....a fighter that is not on the top level is easier to KO than a high level fighter? That is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
      AGAIN YOU SAID THAT I DIDNT YOU MUST ASSUME THAT TO SAY IT.YOU JUST WONT ADMIT THAT THE FIRST 9 FIGHTERS CARWIN FOUGHT WERENT CONTENDERS AND HE COULDNT KO THEM THAT WERENT CONTENDERS AND IF CARWIN IS AS GOOD AS YOU SAY HE SHOULD OF KO'D A FEW BUT HE DIDNT. BROCK DOESNT NEED KO VICTORIES TO PROVE HE'S THE CHAMP OR BE THE CHAMP HE'S ALREADY PROVED THAT BY WINNING THE BELT.
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      • #18
        Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

        Originally posted by FUZO View Post
        GET SOME THING STRAIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW DUDE I DONT GET MY FEELINGS HURT HERE AND DONT BE COCKY AND TALK SHIT LIKE THAT. AND YOU ACT IN YOUR WORDS THAT CARWIN IS THE MAN LIKE HE'S IT THE NEW THING.YOU MUST THINK FIGHTERS HAVE TO KO PEOPLE TO PROVE THEM SELF WHICH IS A JOKE




        AGAIN YOU SAID THAT I DIDNT YOU MUST ASSUME THAT TO SAY IT.YOU JUST WONT ADMIT THAT THE FIRST 9 FIGHTERS CARWIN FOUGHT WERENT CONTENDERS AND HE COULDNT KO THEM THAT WERENT CONTENDERS AND IF CARWIN IS AS GOOD AS YOU SAY HE SHOULD OF KO'D A FEW BUT HE DIDNT. BROCK DOESNT NEED KO VICTORIES TO PROVE HE'S THE CHAMP OR BE THE CHAMP HE'S ALREADY PROVED THAT BY WINNING THE BELT.
        I am just cocky, there is nothing I can do about that. Take it as you please. See you are spinning this in completely the wrong direction. Where did I say that KOs are what proves yourself? This is all about the article. Nothing you are saying makes any sense with what the article is talking about. It doesn't matter if a guy is a contender or not. There are MANY MANY non-contenders that can and can't be knocked out. No one said that Brock needs KO victories to prove he is champ. That is no where NEAR what I am talking about. Mir said that Brock hasn't knocked anyone out and that is the same thing I said. I am referring to the article, you are turning it into a Brock bashing session like I hate Brock. In all honesty, I like Brock more than I do Carwin.

        I don't even like Carwin and he is definitely not the next best thing. I think Junior Dos Santos is the guy everyone needs to watch out for.
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        • #19
          Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

          Originally posted by tn94z View Post
          I don't even like Carwin and he is definitely not the next best thing. I think Junior Dos Santos is the guy everyone needs to watch out for.
          I dont know about that big d, Jr Dos Santos might not be up to that lvl yet. I think out of everyone in that weightclass I think Carwin holds the best chance to do some work. Especially since most his fights are submission wins anyway, it will be good to see Mir and him go back and forth with that.

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          • #20
            Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

            Originally posted by diablo View Post
            I dont know about that big d, Jr Dos Santos might not be up to that lvl yet. I think out of everyone in that weightclass I think Carwin holds the best chance to do some work. Especially since most his fights are submission wins anyway, it will be good to see Mir and him go back and forth with that.
            Junior Dos Santos is building steam. I think because they didn't throw him right in the thick of things that he will be a much better fighter. I mean he has walked through Yvel (who is no joke), Struve, Werdum (who is no joke), and beat CroCop since he has been in the UFC. I know those aren't the top of the level guys and he still needs to be tested, but I just think that he will be someone to contend with once its all said and done. I think he is the one to keep an eye on....if you know what I mean.

            I hope that Mir destroys Carwin just so we can see Mir and Brock again....that will settle all this crap. Mir will have to escape with no injuries for that to happen though. If the winner of their fight has an injury, Brock will more than likely face Cain.
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            • #21
              Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

              Fuzo, all this crap above aside, who are you pulling for in the Mir/Carwin fight?
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              • #22
                Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

                I might want mir to win so I can see mir brock 3.Then could you imagine if mir lost how much he would have to eat shit and it would bother him and he would let it eat him inside bad Imo because of all the talk mir said. But then again 2 big wrestlers,carwin-brock going at it would be nice to see a couple of huge heavyweights fighting
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                • #23
                  Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

                  Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                  I might want mir to win so I can see mir brock 3.Then could you imagine if mir lost how much he would have to eat shit and it would bother him and he would let it eat him inside bad Imo because of all the talk mir said. But then again 2 big wrestlers,carwin-brock going at it would be nice to see a couple of huge heavyweights fighting

                  Oh man!!! He would have to eat it SOOOOO bad!! I would almost be willing to bet that he would retire. He has talked a TON of crap!!
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                  • #24
                    Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

                    I would have to think after there last fight they are working on brocks stand up even more to get it even better. As we know he can wrestle but its the stand up that I would like to see brock get even better at. Its not bad but I can see improvment.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Mir: "Carwin is more dangerous than Brock"

                      Yeah, I am sure he is working on that. I am anxious to see how he has recovered from his sickness.
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