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**O2BESOHUGE** · 10-09-2009, 10:15 AM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

TO ME TITO HAS BEEN SLACKING TOO....I HAVENT BEEN TO IMPRESSED WITH HIS FIGHTING FOR A WHILE. FOR EVERYONE TO HYPE HIM UP AS BEING SO IN SHAPE, HE LOOKS BAD IN THE LATER ROUNDS

**diablo** · 10-09-2009, 12:47 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Yea I dont know I think Tito just tries to get by on his old cred, dont get me wrong back in the day when fighters werent really well rounded like they are now and BJJ wasnt really that popular tito was kicking ass but now that fighters/fighting has evolved I dont think that Tito has it anymore.

**tn94z** · 10-09-2009, 02:32 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Originally posted by diablo View Post

Yea I dont know I think Tito just tries to get by on his old cred, dont get me wrong back in the day when fighters werent really well rounded like they are now and BJJ wasnt really that popular tito was kicking ass but now that fighters/fighting has evolved I dont think that Tito has it anymore.

Tito has BJJ as well. He just hasn't had to use it because his GnP has been so good. Look at how he transitioned from triangle to arm bar against Machida. That was really nice, the problem was Machida had the perfect defense for it.

No with this being said, Tito said himself that he hadn't trained BJJ in 1.5 years when he signed with the UFC. The question will be how rusty is he?

**Schiznick** · 10-10-2009, 01:49 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Forest will beat him this time.. His take down defense is great and Tito's standup is lame.. Forest wins this fight via decision 30-27

**FUZO** · 10-10-2009, 01:53 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Originally posted by Schiznick View Post

Forest will beat him this time.. His take down defense is great and Tito's standup is lame.. Forest wins this fight via decision 30-27

YOU NAME THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ILL BET YOU THAT FOREST WILL LOSE. YOUR HIGH 30-27. AND IF YOU THINK IT WILL BE 30-27 LETS DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THEN.

**Schiznick** · 10-10-2009, 02:20 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

HAHA... I'll take Forest for $1

**FUZO** · 10-10-2009, 03:48 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Originally posted by Schiznick View Post

HAHA... I'll take Forest for $1

Figured

**diablo** · 10-10-2009, 04:17 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Originally posted by tn94z View Post

Tito has BJJ as well. He just hasn't had to use it because his GnP has been so good. Look at how he transitioned from triangle to arm bar against Machida. That was really nice, the problem was Machida had the perfect defense for it.

I know but that was the 1st time anyone had ever really seen tito try something like that. I just dont think he is going to beable to GnP Forest. Forest has gotten out of those situations pretty often.

**gator_mclusky** · 10-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

I think Tito will be a bit gun shy after the back surgery AND Id have that mofo get an AIDS test before I got bloody in the ring with him.....he is married to ex porn star Jenna Jamison!!!!!!
Tough fight nonetheless.......

gator

**BigDawg** · 10-10-2009, 10:08 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

dont forget, tito is coming off back surgery too. he hasn't fought since may 2008. he was only doing ground and pound because his back was jacled up. now forrest is either going to be red hot or ice cold. he has begun to show more of his true personality, he is not the aw shucks fan favorite he has been painted to be. it worked for his career thus far but he has begun to be more himself lately. but he has been beaten by evans for the belt, then spanked by silva. either his confidence will be in the toilet or he will be on a mission to destroy tito to make a point. and tito wants to make a point as well i think after that crappy showing against machida. im leaning towards tito as he may be able to be more well rounded now with the back injury repaired but which forrest will show up? the one who had that war with Bonnar at the first ultomate fighter finale or the one who foight that last few fights and looks washed up?

**BigDawg** · 10-10-2009, 10:12 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

i only fight amateur but if he goes through the med workup i go through before a fight they test for HIV, hep b, hep c, all kinds of ekg, shyt, they don't want any pathogens passing netween fighters

**gator_mclusky** · 10-10-2009, 10:24 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Originally posted by BigDawg View Post

i only fight amateur but if he goes through the med workup i go through before a fight they test for HIV, hep b, hep c, all kinds of ekg, shyt, they don't want any pathogens passing netween fighters

Ive always wondered that with all the blood on the mat.

gator

**diablo** · 10-11-2009, 12:47 AM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

I also fight amateur, and we have to go through alot of tests, including physical, blood, xray, all kinds of stuff

**2-Swole** · 10-13-2009, 08:44 PM

Re: Ortiz vs Griffin II on for November 21st

Man I met Forest and he is a real cool guy or seemed to be at least...sucks he is gunna catch another ass-beating

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