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    LAS VEGAS – After mumbling out a few remarks from the podium, Brock Lesnar declared he was done talking and was about to perform one of his patented moves – storming out of a press conference.

    The Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight champion turned to exit stage right, leaving five of his fellow fighters to promote Saturday’s UFC 100 card without him. He got two steps before company president Dana White threw an arm around his massive shoulders, leaned into his ear and set the record straight.

    “Sit down,” White said he told Lesnar, who actually complied.

    Afterward White shook his head in disbelief at the scene, “the guy’s trying to leave the UFC 100 press conference?” Two other times during the hour-long session, White had to talk to Lesnar about not leaving Mandalay Bay early. Lesnar had decided he was too good to continue promoting an event that will earn him an estimated $3 million. Don’t doubt Dana’s power, he got Brock to stay until the end, a square off with opponent Frank Mir as cameras flashed.

    “I’m telling you, people don’t want my job,” White laughed after. “Telling a 400-pound dude to sit down?”

    Sitting next to Lesnar during the entire affair was a far more accomplished mixed martial artist, a man enjoying a longer run as a champion and a class act who not only never thought of leaving early, he actually stayed late.

    Long after Brock was finally allowed to bail, Georges St. Pierre was still doing interviews with everyone from a Japanese television network to a British newspaper, all while wearing a black pinstriped Armani suit.

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    “If you want to be treated like a professional athlete,” the UFC welterweight [170-pound] champion said, “you have to look like a professional athlete.”

    There are no antics with St. Pierre. No foolishness. No outward ego. Lesnar is the exception in the MMA world; the vast majority of fighters are about projecting positive images and going the extra mile to help grow their sport. Still, few seem to take it as seriously as St. Pierre.

    Forget defying or disappointing White, GSP even gave him a gift – a portrait of St. Pierre, which while finely done, may have, as a present, gotten lost in the cultural translation. The thought counts, though.

    “One of the classiest, most respectful guys,” White said. “He’s an awesome human being.”

    He’s every bit the equal as a fighter, a dynamic, world-class athlete who through dedication to self-improvement has become possibly the finest pound-for-pound fighter in the world. (GSP is tied at No. 1 in the Yahoo! Sports poll with Affliction heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko).

    St. Pierre is 28 and if not in the prime of his career, he’s approaching it. His skill level, well-rounded game and precision make him a poster boy for changing the impression that this is some glorified Toughman competition.

    He’s 18-2 overall and won 11 of his last 12, the lone defeat coming on a stunning upset to Matt Serra, who caught GSP with a punch and pounced. St. Pierre avenged the defeat and almost no one considers the two anywhere near equals.

    If St. Pierre has his way, no one will be his equal. He’s a big dreamer, a guy who sets high bars and then, at least thus far, finds a way to clear them. His last one is his highest.

    “My goal is to be known as the best MMA fighter in history,” St. Pierre said. “That is what I’m fighting for.”

    Saturday he’ll take on an extremely dangerous Thiago “Pitbull” Alves, a hulking, bruising Brazilian, in one of the main events. The fight hasn’t garnered the hype of his last victory – a mega-clash over B.J. Penn – or even the promise of a future one against UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, who White still regards as the best fighter in the world.

    St. Pierre says anyone who can’t see the challenge of Alves isn’t paying attention.

    “He’s the toughest guy that I’ve fought thus far,” said GSP, who has wins over ex-champions Penn (twice), Matt Hughes (twice) and Sean Sherk. “Skill-wise, he brings more problems than any other guy I’ve fought.”

    This is what he wants. He begs White for the toughest fights imaginable. He’s willing to take on anyone in or out of his division. Much like Silva, GSP is one of the UFC’s ultimate warriors, whatever’s best for the company, whatever’s best for the sport.

    “I want to be known as the best so I want to fight the best guys,” he said.

    This entire life still seems like a dream to him, he says. He was a small for his age growing up in Saint-Isidore, Quebec, a small town outside of Montreal. He was bullied until he took up Kyokushin karate and then one day saw this thing called the UFC where a guy named Royce Gracie kept beating guys bigger and stronger without even punching them. He was hooked.

    “I have goals that I fix,” St. Pierre said. “Before I started doing MMA, I wanted to be a MMA professional fighter. Everybody told me I couldn’t do it and I did it.

    “When I became MMA professional fighter, I wanted to fight in the UFC, the most prestigious organization. Everybody told me I couldn’t do it and I did it.

    “After that I wanted become a UFC world champion. Everybody told me I couldn’t do it, it’s impossible, this guy Matt Hughes is going to be there forever, he is a beast. And I did it. I beat him.”

    His next goal meant even more. In August of 2008, after a big day in UFC 87, he secretly went down to the bank in Saint-Isidore, opened up an account and met with the banker.

    “I told the guy at the bank, you see that money I put in the account. I don’t want my parents to pay any more debt the rest of their life. So the mortgage, the car, you take the money and put the money there.”

    When the bank called his father Roland, who installs carpets and ceramic tile for a living, and explained why there wouldn’t be a mortgage due that month, Georges got an ear full.

    “My mama was crying, ‘Why did you do that?’ And my dad was kind of mad, ‘Why did you do that, it’s your money?’ ”

    St. Pierre smiled at the memory.

    “It was the most beautiful day of my life.”

    He now owns two homes himself and can’t believe his good fortune: financially, physically or emotionally. He is solely focused on the challenges ahead and the responsibilities they bring with them. This is his time, he knows. This is his chance to carve a lasting place in a sport that he works tirelessly to promote.

    Saturday comes the challenge of Alves in what should be a classic clash on an historic night. If he wins, who knows what’s next? He’d fight Silva. Or he’ll wait for later.

    “Whatever Dana thinks is best,” he said, nodding to White.

    Sometimes running the UFC, with all these divergent personalities, all these fragile egos, all the moods of Brock Lesnar feels like a circus to Dana White. And sometimes he’s glad he can look over at his superstar welterweight, dressed to the nines and smiling for the camera, and know there isn’t going to be a hint of drama.
    After hearing this and then seeing the countdown and numerous interviews with Brock, it is becoming obvious why everyone still associates him with the WWE. He is still acting like he is reading from a script. If the guy wants to be around MMA very long, he needs to learn some respect and understand that he will be beat and that there is nothing wrong with that. He needs to be humbled in a VERY big way!

    Compare him to GSP...GSP is one of the most respectful guys in the UFC. He is a true mixed martial artist!
    "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

    "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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    Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

    he is humble... mir accused him of only liftin weights... mir will find out tommorrow nite that brock is not stupid and can learn from his mistakes in he last fight, and work heavily on his ground game...

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      Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

      Originally posted by bionic redneck View Post
      he is humble... mir accused him of only liftin weights... mir will find out tommorrow nite that brock is not stupid and can learn from his mistakes in he last fight, and work heavily on his ground game...

      OMG...are you serious? Brock Lesnar is no where near humble man! Come on...I'll give you the fact that Mir has been talking crap, but Lesnar humble? No way. He has disrespected almost everyone in the UFC.

      Mir didn't say that he only lifted weights. Mir was talking about how his size is going to be a big factor and that he has been training his BJJ defense, etc...All he said about weights is that Brock can probably lift more weights than he can and that he just doesn't like training with weights.

      Brock on the other hand has stated that Mir's belt means nothing, when Brock got handed the shot at Randy's belt. He has said that he gave that leg to Mir, when it has been shown that it was obviously taken in that fight. He has blamed his loss on the ref for standing it up too quickly and then he turns around and jumps the ref's case because he didn't stop the fight quick enough when Mir caught him. He sits there and calls Mir a pretty boy and just likes to keep himself looking good. He is a prick in 90% of his interviews. He tried to walk out on the countdown prefight conference. He storms out of many of his interviews. I could go on and on man. Big, strong, hell of an athlete, very bright future in MMA, he is.....Humble, he is by far not!!!!
      "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

      "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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        Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

        And one other thing...there is no way that Brock can learn in less than a year what Mir has been training in for years and years. There is just no way to do it. I have been into BJJ for a while and it is easy to learn the moves in class....it is a totally different world when you have to strategize and learn how and when to use the moves in an actual competition.

        Like Mir said on the countdown, he has been working on perfecting many BJJ moves that Brock doesn't even know the name of yet.
        "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

        "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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          Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

          BROCKS ANGER WILL CLOUD HIS JUDGEMENT IN THE FIGHTS...A FIGHTER HAS TO CONTROL EMOTIONS OR HE LOSES. BROCK'S SIZE WILL ALWAYS PLAY A MAJOR PART OF HIS STRATEGY THOUGH. EVEN RANDY SAID HES JUST SO BIG!!

          I HOPE MIR GETS HIM AGAIN JUST BECAUSE BROCKS A PRICK!
          ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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            Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

            Randy did say he was Big but Randy held his own too....Randy also says that he wants another shot at Brock because he can't beat him
            "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

            "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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              Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

              Originally posted by tn94z View Post
              Randy did say he was Big but Randy held his own too....Randy also says that he wants another shot at Brock because he can't beat him
              BECAUSE HE CAN BEAT HIM OR CANT?
              ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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                Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                im just simply stating dont under estimate brock

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                  Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                  Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
                  BECAUSE HE CAN BEAT HIM OR CANT?
                  Randy wants to fight Brock again because he can beat him. I hate not being able to edit our posts....Sorry about that.

                  Originally posted by bionic redneck View Post
                  im just simply stating dont under estimate brock
                  Oh no, I agree with you 100% on that one. Mir definitely shouldn't under estimate him. And honestly, I don't think that he does. All of this Mir talk is just to get Brock fired up and off of his gameplan. This is the way Mir does it.

                  Mir has even started rumours before about having a leg injury just so his opponent might slack off of their training thinking that Mir was hurt....then Mir comes in fresh and takes advantage.

                  Mir is one of the best fight analyzers in the sport next to Randy...he won't take Brock lightly no matter what he is saying now
                  "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

                  "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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                    Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                    I AGREE, YOU CAN TELL MIR IS AN INTELLIGENT FIGHTER THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF IN INTERVIEWS AND THEY WAY HE THINKS THINGS OUT

                    HES ALREADY SAID HES TRAINING ON THINGS IN BJJ THAT BROCK HASNT EVEN HEARD OF YET!
                    ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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                      Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                      i cant wait for saturday nite....lol

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                      • #12
                        Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                        Me either man. I have been pumped about these fights for a while now!! I have a ton of people coming over to the house to watch it!
                        "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

                        "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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                          Is there a video to this or is this just media speculation and we are just speculating on what happen or even if it did happen I hate the media.Everyone has to understand that brock is a freak of nature and is a very talented man. he's big,fast,strong as hell and he is gifted.He beat mir until that cu-nt of a ref mazzagati stopped it thats the bottom line.Then he made a rookie mistake in his what 3rd fight of his career. Who gives a shit about a press conference anyway its just publicity big fukin deal. Tn94z you cant say he is not humble because you me all of us dont know the man in real life
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                            Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                            IN REAL LIFE HE DOES LIVE HUMBLE. ILL GIVE HIM THAT. BUT ON CAMERA, HES A PRICK! DANA HAD TO TELL HIM WHO'S BOSS AND MAKE HIM SIT DOWN! HES GOT TO REMEMBER THIS AINT THE WWE!

                            HIS STRENGTH AND SPEED ARE PHENOMINAL FOR SOMEONE AS BIG AS HE IS. THATS A GIFT FROM GOD ALONE IN THE SPORTS WORLD. IF HE CAN HONE HIS SKILLS AND BE PATIENT AND LEARN FROM HIS FIGHTS - HE WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE. I AGREE
                            ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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                              Re: Brock and GSP: WWE antics vs true martial artist

                              Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                              Is there a video to this or is this just media speculation and we are just speculating on what happen or even if it did happen I hate the media.Everyone has to understand that brock is a freak of nature and is a very talented man. he's big,fast,strong as hell and he is gifted.He beat mir until that cu-nt of a ref mazzagati stopped it thats the bottom line.Then he made a rookie mistake in his what 3rd fight of his career. Who gives a shit about a press conference anyway its just publicity big fukin deal. Tn94z you cant say he is not humble because you me all of us dont know the man in real life
                              There are thousands of people that watched the conference. There will be a video up soon...this was coming from Dana's mouth, not the media. And this isn't the first time it has happened.

                              The ref could have made it done either way. If you watch the countdown, Mir was just about to lock up an arm bar when the ref stopped it...that could have went either way. Brock hit him in the back of the head Fuzo, that is the bottom line. I mean the back of Mir's head was bleeding when they stood them up...how did that happen if he hadn't hit him there? I watched it live and you could hear the ref telling him to watch the back of the head. That is a lame argument, I think.

                              It is just publicity, but the thing is that Brock is the HW champ and that is just part of his responsibility. It is hard enough to make the casual public think highly of a sport that has been characterized as "glorified toughman contests" without him as these douchebag stunts. he should be thankful that he is getting paid the money that he is getting paid.

                              He had an interview with ESPN a while back..that is almost unheard of for ESPN to interview an MMA fighter and what does he end up doing? Jumping up, punching walls, kicking chairs, and storms out of the office. What kind of example does that set?

                              As far as this rookie mistake....you give absolutely no credit to Mir who so OBVIOUSLY set Brock up. Maybe it was a mistake for Brock to be in that spot, but if it wasn't for that talent of Mir, he never would have gotten the sub. Stop acting like Brock just happened to give Mir the leg....MIR TOOK THE LEG!!!

                              When I say he is not humble, I am referring to MMA only. I don't know him personally, but I can tell you when it comes to MMA and fighting and respect for other fighters and interviews and making a good example of MMA, he is not humble and has no respect. He is a big strong guy that is a good athlete and will get far in MMA just because of that. His skill set is VERY raw and if it wasn't for his size he wouldn't be where he is now. He should be very respectful of the guys that have built the company that is paying him the big bucks now.


                              He better win tomrrow night because if Mir beats him again.....he will drop to the bottom of the line. It is a bad thing to get beat by the same fighter twice in the same division!
                              "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

                              "I'm telling you, once your car's been stolen, it never runs the same again. It's like a guy sleeping with your girl. He leaves his mark all over her."- Drama (Entourage)

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