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    B.J. Penn has contacted the Nevada State Athletic Commission and formally requested an investigation into his recent UFC 94 main-event loss to UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre.

    Keith Kizer, the executive director for the Nevada State Athletic Commission, today passed along a letter in which Penn asks the NSAC to investigate whether St. Pierre's corner used a banned substance (the petroleum jelly, Vaseline) on the fighter's body.

    The letter, penned by Penn's lawyer, Raffi A. Nahabedian, states the notice is not a formal complaint. Additionally, Kizer today confirmed with MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) that the NSAC does not consider it one.

    However, Penn's assessment is that his primary skill set, Brazilian jiu jitsu, was unfairly affected by St. Pierre's corner when they applied Vaseline to his body and that he wants the matter investigated.

    "In order for Mr. Penn (or any other licensed fighter of the Nevada Athletic Commission) to properly executive Brazilian jiu jitsu or the many other grappling techniques which are an essential part of MMA, it is necessary that an environment exists without any illegally applied lubricants, oils or other substances that cause or result in slippery surfaces on the combatants," the letter read.

    Penn's allegations first came to light immediately following Saturday's pay-per-view event, which took place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Penn was dominated through the first four rounds of the fight and didn't answer the bell for the fifth and final round. St. Pierre retained his welterweight belt with the victory.

    On Monday, Kizer told MMAjunkie.com that an improper application of Vaseline to St. Pierre's back by his cornermen had already merited a stern warning from the commission and that disciplinary action could follow.

    Kizer and his team actually began dealing with the apparent application of Vaseline to St. Pierre's back and shoulders during the match.

    "The first round, one of the inspectors that was on the outside of the cage came over to me and said it looked to him that when the cornerman, who I think in that case was Phil Nurse, put the Vaseline on Georges' face then rubbed his shoulders -- which you see the guys rubbing the other guy's shoulders to help him out -- he didn't wipe off his hands between doing that," Kizer said. "I said, 'Well, I'm going to watch very closely after this round.'

    Kizer said he then witnessed one cornermen put Vaseline on Georges' face, which is allowed, but that he then illegally put his hands on the fighter's back "to do the breathing thing they always do," Kizer said.

    At most, it was very small amount of the lubricant, but Kizer immediately sprung to action.

    "Tony Liano and I immediately yelled at him, and I don't think he heard us because of the noise," Kizer said. "So I actually went into the octagon, and I said, 'Take your hand off of his back. What are you doing?' We wiped it down. We made sure it was wiped down after the third round as well. This was after the second when I was in there. I was very upset. I don't know if they were doing it intentionally or not. Either way, they shouldn't have done it."

    Apparently, Penn thinks their actions weren't enough and that St. Pierre's corner had a major affect on the fight.

    In fact, in the letter, Penn alleges the commission was warned ahead of time that St. Pierre's corner, headed by trainer Greg Jackson, should be watched for such infractions.

    "Because of Mr. Penn's prior experience and information provided to him before his participation in the bout, a member of Mr. Penn's team informed [NSAC officials] prior to the bout of the possibility of [St. Pierre] being 'greased up' during the bout or engaging in activities that may cause him to be/become slippery during the bout," the letter read. "While the discussion occurred, Mr. Penn and his team believed that the commission would be on heightened alert to guard against such illegal activities and would take every precaution to ensure Mr. Penn's safety and a proper and fair contest. Additionally, during the bout, statements were made that [St. Pierre] was 'too slippery' and that Mr. Penn could not grab or hold [St. Pierre] because of 'how slippery' he was during the bout. ... [It] is clear that the Commission’s obligations to ensure and guard against such corruption and unfair advantage were severely compromised as people openly witnessed the improper application of an illegal substance over the neck, shoulders, and back of [St. Pierre] the critical areas of Mr. Penn's strategy to impose his Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu submission skills and techniques during the bout."

    Penn concluded the letter by stating he and his representatives are willing to meet with the NSAC.

    Fighters traditionally have 10 days to file a formal complaint with the NSAC, though Kizer said he wasn't sure when the exact deadline is.
    It looks like GSP and his camp are going to go down on this one. Not only have multiple fighters compained about this issue with GSP in the past, but BJs camp contacted the NSAC before their fight saturday night and told them to be on the lookout for the possible use of vaseline on GSPs body....then the NSAC proceeded to catch them using it!!! They are screwed. It is one thing if it happens once..you can call it a mistake. But to have multiple accounts of the same issue...then you are cheating.

    And having BJs camp call it before the fight even started...oh man, that looks so bad!
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    Nothing serious will come of it, the cornerman who did it will get suspended and fined by the commission... thats probably about it
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      They can stop the corner man and Greg Jackson from cornering any fighters in the future too.
      "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

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        he still would have beat the shiot out of penn


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          Originally posted by Schiznick View Post
          Nothing serious will come of it, the cornerman who did it will get suspended and fined by the commission... thats probably about it



          .The commision was warned before the fight by bj's camp and gsp gets caught cheating and on multiple occasions now .i'd take the fight away no contest no fight. If you cheat and get caught you get punished and the fight record should come off. And then have them fight again at a later date. If nothing serious happens then why have a commision or rules.Then maybe if bj wants to fight him again the real bj can show up.
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            IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE CHEATING...I SAY RE-MATCH AND GIVE BJ A CHANCE TO COME IN FIT AND THEN LETS HAVE A GOOD FIGHT. BJ WASNT INTHAT FIGHT AT ALL. HIS MIND WASNT THERE

            ID STILL ROOT FOR GSP THOUGH
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              Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
              IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE CHEATING...I SAY RE-MATCH AND GIVE BJ A CHANCE TO COME IN FIT AND THEN LETS HAVE A GOOD FIGHT. BJ WASNT INTHAT FIGHT AT ALL. HIS MIND WASNT THERE

              ID STILL ROOT FOR GSP THOUGH


              Now thats what i'm talking about.
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                WOOOO-HOOOO ME AND FUZO AGREE!!
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                  Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
                  WOOOO-HOOOO ME AND FUZO AGREE!!
                  you being a gsp lover knows i'm speaking the truth about penn who the real bj penn didnt show up for a fight and bj haters just hate to admitt it
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                    Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
                    IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE CHEATING...I SAY RE-MATCH AND GIVE BJ A CHANCE TO COME IN FIT AND THEN LETS HAVE A GOOD FIGHT. BJ WASNT INTHAT FIGHT AT ALL. HIS MIND WASNT THERE

                    ID STILL ROOT FOR GSP THOUGH

                    WHat???? WHat??? Uh, wait a minute, what?

                    I really don't know what to say....other than you are right. BJ wasn't in that fight at all. I can't believe you said that

                    Anyway, I would be willing to bet that BJ comes into the next fight with knee wraps and ankle wraps though!!

                    GSP has said he will do a rematch...he said to "Let's do the rematch this summer."
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                      Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
                      IF IT WAS FOUND TO BE CHEATING...I SAY RE-MATCH AND GIVE BJ A CHANCE TO COME IN FIT AND THEN LETS HAVE A GOOD FIGHT. BJ WASNT INTHAT FIGHT AT ALL. HIS MIND WASNT THERE

                      ID STILL ROOT FOR GSP THOUGH

                      I AGREE, REMATCH IF HE WAS CHEATING! RIBS AND BEER AT MOFOS FOR REMATCH!!!


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                      • #12
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                        WELLI WANT A FIGHT..."TO THE DEATH" AS BJ PUT IT. THATS WHAT I PAID $49.95 TO SEE AND I DIDNT GET TO. I WANT A BLOOD BATH BETWEEN THE BOTH OF THEM

                        I WANT A FIGHT! AND HONESTLY, BJ WAS MILES AWAY. HIS MIND WASNT RIGHT. HE DID NOTHING LIKE HE NORMALLY DOES. SOMETHING WAS BAD OFF WITH HIM.
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                        • #13
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                          bj was skeeeeeeeeeeeeerd


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                          Note: All of my advice and posts are merely for educational purposes I do not condone the use of steroids or any other illegal drugs. I am no doctor and my advice should be taken with a grain of salt, just like everyone else's hypothetical advice.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by BIGMOFO View Post
                            bj was skeeeeeeeeeeeeerd

                            HAHAHA!!!! Yeah he was. He is the one that called GSP out. They were supposed to fight last year and GSP backed out saying that he wasn't ready. Being scared was the last thing in BJs mind.
                            "He woke up because I kept punching him in the face." --Thiago Alves

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                            • #15
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                              I SAY GREASE EM BOTH DOWN!
                              ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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