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    Despite rumors that BJ Penn was considering retirement directly before or after his brutal, slippery loss against Georges St. Pierre on Saturday, BJ Penn has updated his Facebook page with a message that he'll "for sure" be facing Kenny Florian in his next fight, possibly in June. (This follows a previous Facebook comment where Penn wrote "gsp was a bit greased but that takes nothin away from him at all he was the better guy!") Florian last fought at UFC 91 in November, where he scored a first-round submission victory over Joe Stevenson. So, he'll have to make a choice that's now all-too-familiar — take a long layoff and wait for BJ to be ready in the summer, or risk his #1 contender status with another place-holder bout.

    And just to keep you up to speed on "Lubegate"...

    — Currently retired fighter Jason "Mayhem" Miller has gone on the UG to re-publish one of his old Fight! Magazine columns where he called out one of his past opponents for greasing during a fight. The implication is that he was writing about GSP. As Miller writes, "Would it have made a difference if he wasn't greased up? Maybe, but honestly probably not. He was the better man that night, plain and simple. He bent the rules, not broke them, and when you get away with it, it isn't called cheating...When your livelihood depends on whether or not your hand is raised at the end of the night, you'll work the system to achieve that end result."

    — Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer is fairly pissed off at Phil Nurse:


    “I told [St. Pierre's cornermen] I was disappointed and that they may have tainted Mr. St. Pierre’s victory,” he said. “I told them if it happens again, it will probably be the last time they work a corner in Nevada. Basically, they said, ‘Look, we’re sorry. We’re not trying to do anything. It was an accident.’ Whether it was intentional or not, I don’t know. It was improper.”

    Kizer also told the Las Vegas Review Journal, "This doesn't necessarily take away his victory, but it takes away from his victory, and that's unfortunate. I told them unfortunately, because of their actions, they have probably tarnished St. Pierre's victory in the eyes of the fans."

    — Greg Jackson to Sherdog: “I’m sure [St. Pierre] wouldn’t mind fighting B.J. a third time if they’re that concerned about it. I’m sure everybody would make a lot of money, and we’d certainly welcome that fight again.”
    I'm glad to see that BJ is not giving it up. Florian is in trouble!!


    Very interesting that Mayhem pointed out the same thing years ago
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    Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

    WOW THIS IS BIG NEWS.IF WERE GOING TO TECHINACLY SAY GSP FOUGHT FAIR YOU CANT BECAUSE OF THE VASALINE. SO ITS DEFINITLY CHEATING OR BENDING RULES. WHY WOULD GSP HAVE TO BEND RULES TO FIGHT BJ PENN OR ANY OTHER FIGHT WITH THE VASALINE. MAKES YA WONDER HOW MANY TIMES HE USED IT AND DIDNT GET CAUGHT
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      Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

      There are a lot of articles on this topic if you want me to post them up here. I didn't post them because I didn't want it to sound like BJ was making any excuses about the fight.

      The NSAC are the ones that caught them doing it. So, BJ's camp knew nothing about it until the fight was over.
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        I dont think Vaseline should be legal at all!!!!
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          Cornermens fault, they should know better.

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            Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

            Originally posted by tn94z View Post
            There are a lot of articles on this topic if you want me to post them up here. I didn't post them because I didn't want it to sound like BJ was making any excuses about the fight.

            The NSAC are the ones that caught them doing it. So, BJ's camp knew nothing about it until the fight was over.


            Plese post them
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              Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

              Originally posted by gator_mclusky View Post
              I dont think Vaseline should be legal at all!!!!

              Vaseline is good for fighters, they put it on the face to avoid getting cut so easily... no one wants these fights stopped due to stupid cuts
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                Originally posted by Schiznick View Post
                Vaseline is good for fighters, they put it on the face to avoid getting cut so easily... no one wants these fights stopped due to stupid cuts
                True. Without vaseline, the gloves would just rip the skin to pieces.
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                  Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

                  the Vaseline wouldnt have helped BJ at all. he just had no answer for GSP. it is underhanded to do but when you are fighting a takedown the last place you wanna grab are the shoulders or upper back.

                  i can see the upper back helping in hip escapes when mounted or rotating for an armbar or triangle though
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                    Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

                    Originally posted by jipped genes View Post
                    the Vaseline wouldnt have helped BJ at all. he just had no answer for GSP. it is underhanded to do but when you are fighting a takedown the last place you wanna grab are the shoulders or upper back.

                    i can see the upper back helping in hip escapes when mounted or rotating for an armbar or triangle though

                    That we will never know. A submission is always only seconds away and BJ is one of the best at that. Plus his rubber guard and high guard are some of his a-game material and vaseline on the upper back and shoulders would definitely hinder that.
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                      Re: BJ not retiring..no excuses made!!

                      Originally posted by Schiznick View Post
                      Vaseline is good for fighters, they put it on the face to avoid getting cut so easily... no one wants these fights stopped due to stupid cuts
                      Nature of the beast in IMO. They shouldnt get caught with a face splitting punch if they want to win.

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