McGwire admits to steroid use

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baseball...every sport, once they go pro, and most before then. but in the pros, everybody has always done something, or some-things, for an edge. everybody & always!
Everybody just realized juice was alot better for them than speed and shyt. So, we had a couple decades of jacked up dudes. The batters went nuts. Watch some of the home-run derbies through the 90s. Look at everybody. Look at Sosa his rookie year. Look at Bonds his rookie yr. You'd think Bonds couldn''t get as big as he did. Look at fukin, what's his name?...loud mouth. mouth of the south...whistle blower. grocery bag-boy now. He literally is bagging groceries to pay his light bill. damn!..wtf is his name. I had like 50 of his rookie cards with the A's.(Oakland) The dude that said he gave McGwire some shots. I can't believe I forget his name. That's how much I give a shyt about him though. I watched him and his wore out hag sitting on a park bench outside a courtroom after he got busted with a few viles trying to cross the border. like he's not going to get the shake down. ole dipshyt. Mr. I'll write a book about it, name names, and think life will continue the same. He literally has no money now. Karma's a bytch. taddle tale.
You know who I'm talking about. He has a slight case of tourettes syndrome. a little twitchy. (not making fun. just describing) trying to remember the fuker's name.
damn! can't believe I forgot is name. Mr. Juiced. fuk him though. He's the whole reason for the season. Arrogant dik figured he would just blow everything out of the water with no recoil. wrong. news flash dumb ass.
man...I've wrote a whole book about him but can't remember the dude's name.

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Hope Bonds continues to plead the 5th. what the fuk good will it do if he confesses? All it does is bring out the idiot asshole media pundits like keith Olberman and oreilly talking about how evil steroids are. Keep your mouth shut Bonds. HRT doesnt need any more bad publicity and misinformation in the media. I dont give a fuk if mcguire took steroids...Baseball is more boring now without them, thats for sure.

Just think if the NFL decides to crack down hard on juicers..that would totally suck. lets hope not

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Hope Bonds continues to plead the 5th. what the fuk good will it do if he confesses? All it does is bring out the idiot asshole media pundits like keith Olberman and oreilly talking about how evil steroids are. Keep your mouth shut Bonds. HRT doesnt need any more bad publicity and misinformation in the media. I dont give a fuk if mcguire took steroids...Baseball is more boring now without them, thats for sure.

Just think if the NFL decides to crack down hard on juicers..that would totally suck. lets hope not

yeah, profootball would suck.

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Steroids leveled the playing field in baseball. Teams like tampa and minnesota used to have a chance. Now, the only teams that will win will be big money teams like the NYyankesss that can buy up the few superstars in the after steroid era. With steroids, the little guy had a fighting chance. not no more

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What are "steroids," and do they sell them at GNC?

Lol, I remember when the papers started calling A-Rod, "A-Roid."

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baseball...every sport, once they go pro, and most before then. but in the pros, everybody has always done something, or some-things, for an edge. everybody & always!
Everybody just realized juice was alot better for them than speed and shyt. So, we had a couple decades of jacked up dudes. The batters went nuts. Watch some of the home-run derbies through the 90s. Look at everybody. Look at Sosa his rookie year. Look at Bonds his rookie yr. You'd think Bonds couldn''t get as big as he did. Look at fukin, what's his name?...loud mouth. mouth of the south...whistle blower. grocery bag-boy now. He literally is bagging groceries to pay his light bill. damn!..wtf is his name. I had like 50 of his rookie cards with the A's.(Oakland) The dude that said he gave McGwire some shots. I can't believe I forget his name. That's how much I give a shyt about him though. I watched him and his wore out hag sitting on a park bench outside a courtroom after he got busted with a few viles trying to cross the border. like he's not going to get the shake down. ole dipshyt. Mr. I'll write a book about it, name names, and think life will continue the same. He literally has no money now. Karma's a bytch. taddle tale.
You know who I'm talking about. He has a slight case of tourettes syndrome. a little twitchy. (not making fun. just describing) trying to remember the fuker's name.
damn! can't believe I forgot is name. Mr. Juiced. fuk him though. He's the whole reason for the season. Arrogant dik figured he would just blow everything out of the water with no recoil. wrong. news flash dumb ass.
man...I've wrote a whole book about him but can't remember the dude's name.

Are you talking about conseco who was right from the begining and everyone made fun of him and called him a liar and now look he was right every step of the way. If some people dont like conseco I get it but he was right and had the balls enough to come forth and tell the truth and it made him look bad but who really cares. It was the media that crucified him for telling the truth about himself and others.Yes conseco is cocky but was right and ya ave to give him that

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Are you talking about conseco who was right from the begining and everyone made fun of him and called him a liar and now look he was right every step of the way. If some people dont like conseco I get it but he was right and had the balls enough to come forth and tell the truth and it made him look bad but who really cares. It was the media that crucified him for telling the truth about himself and others.Yes conseco is cocky but was right and ya ave to give him that

yeah. Jose. I give him no credit. He's not a 4yr old child. He doesn't need credit for telling the truth. I mean..come on. That's ridiculous. No one needed to come out of the closet with that bs like Canseco did. Anybody could tell they were jacked up. What Canseco did was tiny. Spineless. That was a very weak grab for...I don't know what??? why??? what was the purpose? He was well aware of the steroid use in the game just as everyone else in the game. Canseco doesn't give 2 shyts about ethics, so it wasn't that he was coming clean of something that had been eating at him. The only thing that was eating at him, that I could think of, is him getting eclipsed by the dude, McGuire, that he gave some shots to. idk. I think it was bigger than that to Canseco. He knew how much attention that would get, and man did it ever get the attention. Major gear shift for baseball. Canseco did have an agenda. He had a book to sell. That's pretty much it. And that's Canseco's arrogance and persona. He don't care about shyt. He knew that would be big news though. Huge story. And he had the details, so he named names, told the tales, sold books, and figured that would be his signature in baseball. And it is. He didn't figure that it would cost him everything he had, and then some, though. Including "friendships". He wishes he would've never said a damn word now. Canseco is experiencing the real deal karma, and it's for life. Sealed the deal. No one will touch him with a 20' pole.

Yes. Canseco was right. so what. He knew that he would break the hearts of every kid and naive person on the planet. It doesn't take balls to do what he did. That's just Canseco being Canseco. Brains and all. or lack of, rather. because if he'd have thought twice, he wouldn't have created that mess. He would've kept his dignity, honor and loyalty to his peers. and really, to the whole game. That takes balls. IMO, it takes no balls to be a rat.
Canseco was the media's wet dream. and he knew that. He knew he would draw full attention. And of course the media called him a liar. They knew Canseco would bite. And Canseco, being Canseco, would produce without hesitation. a rat.
Ya don't want any Jose Cansecos in your fox-hole with you.
That's why he was stocking groceries last I saw. No one...there's no organization that wants a Canseco anywhere near their strategy. He's a spineless rat.

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Canseco was being targeted for steroids and was one of the first guys to be attacked by major league basball .So now the commisioner and others were saying conseco was the only one on steroids so his back was against the wall and let it out there about others and no one beleived him about other players being on. They trashed him for saying that and now what do we find out he was right all along. Why should he get the blame when they attacked him first and he was honest and came out yeah I used them.So he wrote a book and made money god bless him and anyone else who can profit off of the truth. And now look others our coming out now and admitting that they used them.I respect someone one telling the truth then lying. he told the truth and the others lied so why should he take the blame. Look at it this way now that there is testing in baseball maybe he saved some players lifes that our coming up in the big leagues and the idea of dont use steroids when if this never happen they might of.If he can make money god bless him write a book. You know who you should not have respect for the players that are still lying about not using those players are full of shit and making them selves look bad,clemons to name one,palmero to name another. Giambi came out good for him and the others that have. Fuk the players who still lie. Now sosa should come out and admit it

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I have to agree with HP.Canseco is an attention wh ore, who loves everytime someone like maguire comes out of the closet because then all the big TV Networks call him and he gets to go back on TV. Canseco stabbed his former friends in the back in order to keep up his lifestyle by selling rat out books.. Canseco is all about canseco. He didnt need to go and rat out his friends. He is nothing but a rat and backstabber. Sorry Fuzo, but its true. I cant even stand seeing him on tv. I change the channel. As for sosa and bonds,Pleading the 5th is not lying. I hope these guys stop coming out because all it does is bring more bad publicity. Let sleeping dogs lye. Time to forget the steroid era. Everybody knows they took steroids. I hope maguire doesnt get on the cover of Sports illustrated like Manny, A Roid, Canseco, Giambi...every one of those guys was on the cover of SI for steroids. I hope Bonds moves to a beachouse in France and never comes back.

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I'm from the SF Bay area and grew up LOVING the A's and the bash brothers..

It's sad to see Jose talk so openly and tell all the inside secrets, BUT he IS the ONLY one really telling the truth.. Everything he has said has become truth..

What irritates me more then anything is to listen to these baseball "experts" talk about how.. "Wow, could use imagine if guys like Don Mattingly took steroids and how good they would be?" PLEEEEASE.. how do we know they didnt? AND athletes have ALWAYS taken something to give them an edge.. SPEED was HUGE back in the 60's, 70's and 80's with baseball players.. but that isnt a big deal?

frustraing as hell.. I cant even listen to sports talk when they get on the subject

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Fuzo. I don't see any backbone in that because I don't see the taddle-tale as being so noble. Pleading the 5th. Keeping your mouth shut?..that's noble. That's loyal to the truth. I can't believe you disagree with that!
There's nothing unethincal about taking GH and AS. Sports or no sports. Allot of these guys waited several years before supplementing. wtf? They go pro about when the average male's hormones take a turn for the worse.
There is no argument to this. The guys weren't paying the umpire. They were supplementing their bodies for the better! They need to remain in tip-top condition.

If Canseco was targeted. He should've taken the high road every chance he got. Noble would have been learning, and relaying the truth. That's the noble path in that fork in the road. period. Not ratting out your team-mates, friends...brethren that are in the trenches with you, and writing a book about it. That's as low as it gets. There is not an ounce of nobility or respect in that.
Godbless!!! I mean...where's the dignity in men now-days? oh, Mr Bonds still has some. MacGuires went out the door the other day. Canseco never has owned one drop of nobility or ethics. He wasn't raised with American honor, and dignity though.
Canseco is a liability in any aspect of life. He couldn't be a high ranking brass in the armed forces for any country. It takes some dignity and high respect for your peers and what your working for. The truth need not be shouted from the roof tops. In many instances and areas of life. Ethics. Brotherhood. Respect. Loyalty. Honor. Truth. Dignity...all apply to every aspect of life. Not one of those words describe Jose and what he did. If he's going on a "truth" expedition, then he should've went all-out truth. What he did was all out taddlin. Nothing more. Taddlin isn't good in kindergarten or baseball.
uh...I can't believe the view on this from so many. Of course, most of naive, uninformed America feel that what Mr Canseco did was right, but most of us, and even Jose Canseco, knows what he did was slippery. If he'd taken the opportunity to grab the truth by the horns and push it to the public. Then he'd been correct and noble. He took the easy path. The unethical, "I'll just ruin some lives", "it's all about me", Canseco path. Go read Suzanne Sommer's book about steroids and growth. What she's doind is noble. And what she's doing is called, telling the truth. What Jose did was no more than a low-road, spineless attempt at being "bigger". Reality show type crap. He was only trying to benefit himself. When a whistle is blown like that, it's critical to accompany it with the whole truth, or it's damaging. and Canseco knew that. He just doesn't give a damn about anyone, or whose face he ruins.

I can't believe that anyone here sees Canseco's actions as "the right thing to do." And it's not just because we should know the truth about steroids, but it's just a basic code of ethics.

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...oh. and he could've still been making money by telling the real truth, and educating. He could've been the poster boy for how great steroids are for your health, life, game, and so on. He could've been pushing the real truth about how important AS is to many adults. He could've paved the way. What a face and public figure to help get the truth out there.
And I would be right with ya applauding him for making money off it in the process.
But what does he do? Goes and uses it for the exact opposite.
He deserves no pat on the back.