Obama considers intervening in gay marriage case

[FUZO]

The Obama administration is considering urging the Supreme Court to overturn California's ban on gay marriage -- a move that could have a far-reaching impact on same-sex couples across the country.


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[bandaidwoman]

Re: Obama considers intervening in gay marriage case

I don't know why Americans are so hung up on this. If we wanted to defend traditional marriage we would still allow Polygomy and outlaw divorce. Monogomy is definately not an Abrahamic religious tradition. Gays are some of the wealthiest minorities demographically and contribute to our society. Let them have what they want. There was no rain of fire or sudden demise of heterosexual marriages when Denmark legalized it. I guess our Puritanical beginnings are still affecting modern society.

[hoyle21]

I don't know why Americans are so hung up on this. If we wanted to defend traditional marriage we would still allow Polygomy and outlaw divorce. Monogomy is definately not an Abrahamic religious tradition. Gays are some of the wealthiest minorities demographically and contribute to our society. Let them have what they want. There was no rain of fire or sudden demise of heterosexual marriages when Denmark legalized it. I guess our Puritanical beginnings are still affecting modern society.

The Supreme Court will over turn it and it won't be close. There is nothing in the constitution that even remotely be used as a basis to discriminate against gay people.

Anyone who believes in the constitution (really just libertarians anymore) should be happy about it.

[bandaidwoman]

Re: Obama considers intervening in gay marriage case

I was always taught that America was so great because it was foremost a Republic, second a democracy. It's the only place in the world where minorities ( whether religious, racial, politically etc.) have their civil rights protected by the constitution, thus preventing tyranny of the majority. I had to learn this as I was taking classes to become a citizen while living in Malaysia.

[hoyle21]

Unfortunately Americans don't have to learn that in order to be citizens.

[bandaidwoman]

Re: Obama considers intervening in gay marriage case

I believe those of us who immigrated to this country see the value of insourcing, rather than outsourcing our businesses

America is just the right mixture of free market, governance, individual liberty and concern for its citizens.

Though free market thrives in my home country the government allows pollution levels to be far above what is deemed compatible with human safety in our cities. There is no EPA or FDA that tries to minimize pollution in our drinking water (80% of our water is deemed undrinkable by US standards) or drug contamination. Our assets are also not protected since the government at any time can swoop in and take over. My brother's CEO who is a Lebanese Palestinian didn't open up his software company in India , despite the ability to pay them 1/10 the salary of American software engineers. In Mexico, or India he would have to deal with bribing local officials and the infrastructure in India is so bad, not even the president of India is gauranteed clean water on a day to day basis. He likes it here, despite the higher overhead, because his assets are protected, he doesn't have to bribe local officials and the simple fact that if a road gets washed over, our government fixes it and he doesn't have to worry about employees not even making it to work. Unlike his home country, he won't get dragged out and shot if he voices unsavory political opinions. He says its too bad American companies don't see the benefit of keeping the company here, although many are finding it out the hard way when they go to the border towns in Mexico for instance.

[bandaidwoman]

Re: Obama considers intervening in gay marriage case

In other words, despite being a teenager superpower, compared to my home country which has existed as an empire before jesus's time, it's still a great, great country. Like any teenager, we make mistakes but as Winston Churchill said famously " I like Americans because they eventually get it right"

[hoyle21]

"Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities."

-Winston Churchill