Republican Debate

[JsJs24]

Last night's Republican debate showed that Ron Paul received zero votes. That is very hard to imagine considering he won the CPAC and has placed high in many poles. This is enough for me to believe they are fixing the votes of the debates. I have thought this would happen all along but not to that extent.

Then O'Reilly showed how ignorant of economics he is, which I have always believed and just mentioned that on here recently. He was making fun of Paul's use of the word Keynesian, and asked John Stossel if Paul pronounced it wrong, but of course he didn't and it was Bill who did. Then Bill asked what it meant, and if it referred to Keynes the economist who lived in 1710 or something like that...lol. What an idiot. Anyone who does not know what Keynesian means, or who Keynes is, has no business discussing economics, and surely no business criticizing someone who does understand the subject. I am now convinced that Fox News is making sure all of their news anchors and talk show hosts single out Paul to be a joke to lower public opinion about him.

For those of you who don't like Paul, I challenge you to read up on him and listen to his debates. Read some of his work or maybe a book he has written. Learn about why he holds the views he holds. I believe if more people would do this they would wake up and realize he is the biggest supporter of freedom and limited government in politics today.

[FUZO]

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HONESTY JSJS RON REALLY DIDNT GET HIS POINT ACROSS TO AMERICA LAST NIGHT AND WHO CARES WHAT ORIELLY SAYS BUT DUDE THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY THEORY GOING ON WITH PAUL. AS MUCH AS PASSION YOU HAVE FOR HIM I HAVE FOR PALIN THATS IT. HE WONT WIN EVER AND TO BE HONEST AFTER THIS TIME HE WILL BE TO OLD TO RUN AGAIN. I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING AND I COULDNT UNDERSTAND HIM AT ALL IN CERTIAN THINGS AND LISTEN FOX ISNT OUT TO GET HIM ITS HIS POLICYS THAT DONT FLY RIGHT WITH AMERICA NO MATTER HOW AMERICA WAS BROUGHT UP OR WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY JUST DONT WANT RON PAUL,LIKE THEY DONT WANT THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON.AND IVE DONE SOME READING ON THE INTERNET OF HIM AND THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD VOTE FOR HIM ON SOME OF HIS ISSUES AND THE PEOPLE SEE EXACTLY WHAT I SEE. YOUR A LIBERTARIAN I'M A REPUBLICAN CONCERVATIVE,TRIP IS A LIBERAL NUT JOB WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT IS A REPUBLICAN CONCERVATIVE IN OFFICE NOT A LIBERAL NOT A LIBERTARIAN SUCH IS LIFE.ROMNEY IS A IDIOT PAWLENTA IS A BUTTERFLY,CAIN IS JUST A PIZZA MAKER,BACHMAN IS A WANNABE PALIN. NEWT HOPEFULY WILL TURN IT AROUND.JUST THINK TAKE AWAY THE MEDIA HATE THAT RAINED ON PALIN AND SHE'S THE NEXT PRESIDENT. WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE GOOD OLE RONNIE BACK AND SHE'S THE CLOSEST. BUT ITS TO BAD THAT THE MEDIA IS A BUNCH OF COC-K SUCKERS AND THIS LYING SCUM BAG BLOJAMA WILL LOSE. JUST WATCH AND LOSE BIG HE WILL. YOU'LL SEE AND AGAIN I WANRT TO SEE FACTS AND ORIELLY GIVES IT STRAIGHT EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I HATE HIM.THIS IS MY OPINION

[JsJs24]

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HONESTY JSJS RON REALLY DIDNT GET HIS POINT ACROSS TO AMERICA LAST NIGHT AND WHO CARES WHAT ORIELLY SAYS BUT DUDE THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY THEORY GOING ON WITH PAUL. AS MUCH AS PASSION YOU HAVE FOR HIM I HAVE FOR PALIN THATS IT. HE WONT WIN EVER AND TO BE HONEST AFTER THIS TIME HE WILL BE TO OLD TO RUN AGAIN. I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING AND I COULDNT UNDERSTAND HIM AT ALL IN CERTIAN THINGS AND LISTEN FOX ISNT OUT TO GET HIM ITS HIS POLICYS THAT DONT FLY RIGHT WITH AMERICA NO MATTER HOW AMERICA WAS BROUGHT UP OR WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY JUST DONT WANT RON PAUL,LIKE THEY DONT WANT THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON.AND IVE DONE SOME READING ON THE INTERNET OF HIM AND THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD VOTE FOR HIM ON SOME OF HIS ISSUES AND THE PEOPLE SEE EXACTLY WHAT I SEE. YOUR A LIBERTARIAN I'M A REPUBLICAN CONCERVATIVE,TRIP IS A LIBERAL NUT JOB WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENCES BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT IS A REPUBLICAN CONCERVATIVE IN OFFICE NOT A LIBERAL NOT A LIBERTARIAN SUCH IS LIFE.ROMNEY IS A IDIOT PAWLENTA IS A BUTTERFLY,CAIN IS JUST A PIZZA MAKER,BACHMAN IS A WANNABE PALIN. NEWT HOPEFULY WILL TURN IT AROUND.JUST THINK TAKE AWAY THE MEDIA HATE THAT RAINED ON PALIN AND SHE'S THE NEXT PRESIDENT. WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE GOOD OLE RONNIE BACK AND SHE'S THE CLOSEST. BUT ITS TO BAD THAT THE MEDIA IS A BUNCH OF COC-K SUCKERS AND THIS LYING SCUM BAG BLOJAMA WILL LOSE. JUST WATCH AND LOSE BIG HE WILL. YOU'LL SEE AND AGAIN I WANRT TO SEE FACTS AND ORIELLY GIVES IT STRAIGHT EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I HATE HIM.THIS IS MY OPINION

What I was implying is that Oreilly doesn't know what he is talking about on the subject of economics, thus he has no business knocking Ron Paul on it who is actually on par with many economics professors as far as knowledge of the subject goes. The reason some think Paul did horrible the other night is because they don't understand what he was talking about. Everything he said was true, but most people don't have that level of knowledge on the complexities involved.

As for Fox News and the Republican Party, they are indeed trying to single Paul out. This much is obvious, otherwise they wouldn't say anything about him. Paul has a grassroots movement larger than any of our lifetimes, and the military supports him overwhelmingly. Remember that last Presidential race Paul received more donations from military than all other candidates. That alone should say something. He is a force to be reckoned with, thus the media is trying to shit him down out of fear he might pull too much support. Paul is a Republican in the strictest since, but the party is no longer conservative. I wish more people would read nobel prize winner Hayek's book The Road to Serfdom. In it he discusses the path to totalitarianism and that once the two parties are after the same ends it means you are on the path to totalitarianism. Well, that is hastily becoming the case. I am an Austrolibertarian, which means I am a subscriber to the philosophy and economics of the Austrian School of Economics (Hayek was an Austrian Economist). I have decided that I am not a Libertarian, nor am I a Republican, but a firm believer in individualism and limited government intervention in the economy. I side with Republicans on most stuff and Democrats on zero.

Paul is hard for many people to understand because they don't look at government in the true since of the Republican platform, which is limited government. The party has not stood for limited government for several decades now, with the exception for the most part by Reagan, whom Paul was a supporter of by the way. But like I said, if people would read up on Paul and learn why he holds the views he does, and how closely he resembles Jefferson and Washington, they would realize he is a solid politician. That's what I think anyway.

[JsJs24]

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I should clarify that I meant Paul is a Republican with Libertarian leaning views for government, but he lives his personal life as a conservative, just doesn't believe the government should force other to do so.

I agree that not all of Paul's ideas are necessarily the most popular, but the few things that people don't agree with him on are far less hurtful than that of the other politicians who keep getting elected. But Republicans for the most part do not want a limited government. If that isn't clear to everyone then they aren't aware of what limited government means. The primary reason I do not consider myself a Republican is because they stopped supporting limited government. If they were to go back to it then I would probably consider myself a Republican again. And another thing I am tired of hearing from the GOP is fiscal conservatism. That surely is obvious to most that it is not being supported. But I am criticized by some for holding those views, which are supposed to be held by the GOP. Go figure.

[daved150]

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well....i've voted for him in the past and will do so again if he makes the ballet...

[FUZO]

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well....i've voted for him in the past and will do so again if he makes the ballet...

If ron paul makes the ballet

[JsJs24]

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well....i've voted for him in the past and will do so again if he makes the ballet...

If he makes it to the Primaries he would have a better chance of beating Obama than anyone. Unfortunately, he won't make it there. But that is what amazes me from the GOP, they talk like they just want someone who will beat Obama but then they try to marginalize anyone who might could do it that they don't like. Newt is another one they are doing that too, not just Paul, which surprised the heck out of me. Oh and Palin too. At the end of the day though rest assured whoever makes the ballot will be corrupt and a supporter of BIG government. I hope I am wrong on that though.

[JsJs24]

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If ron paul makes the ballet

Don't worry about that one Fuzo...lol, unless there's some sort of miracle he won't be making it to the ballot.

[horsepwr]

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I would love, so much. Being a conservative republican that repps hard our original republican state of government & life, I would give a nut. maybe both, (not touching Cpt Crook.lol), but to revert back to freedom. responsibility. 'If you can't take it, or make it in a true free-market Republic, then you should fall off. America would be as close to a eutopia as could be under exclusive Constitutional rule. true liberty. Fuk the bs politically correct blah blah blah blah blah blah....If I own a business, I should be able to hire & fire whoever the hell I want & for whatever reason I feel fit. Fuk his skin color. Fuk his religion. Fuk his birth-land flag & his camel that rode him in. I know...might not sound reasonable to some folks. Isn't that strange to you? A private business owner can't hire & fire for whatever reason he/she sees fit, or feels comfortable? That's fuked up. We do need some more loss of freedom. People shouldn't be able to drink alcohol. That shit's worse for you than ephedran, & it, usually, will completely change someone's personality, mood, judgement & train of thought. Allot of times turning a grown man into a crybaby or a decent gentlemen into a badass. So, I'm with the commis. Prohibition rule!!! If I can't smoke a 4ft water-bong in the sanctity of my home, on my own free-will, under my responsible choice to, then why the hell should anyone have any freedom? That's the stupidest shit I've seen yet. (prohibition). Fukin brilliant! Even more brilliant. They regulate things under the premise of, "ohhh...but the children..." give me a fukin break Slobama, Hugo, ******, Abe, Teddy, FDR, Clinton, Bush, uuhhuhuuuhhuhh...had to come up for air. Basically ever president following Jefferson. I'll go hard for liberty, so long as the adult conducts themslves responsibly. Or in the most reasonbly responsible way. Can't really be responsible 3 sheets to the wind. But a responsible adult & parent can still understand the most responsible choices. Give 'em the benefit of the doubt. at least!. I mean, drinking isn't exactly taking a decongestant that just makes you alert & well focussed like that damn ephedran/crystal/meth...what the fuk ever they do these days. That shit don't do a fukin thing to mess a person up. ephedran??? wtf???!!! & there's a fukin war going on with that silly nasal decongestant. So, duh...of course the children are going to go after the banned forbidden fruit. Alcohol though?...nahhh...they don't give that much a shit for the only substance out there that literally kills brain cells. any living cell it comes in contact is roasted actually. Ethanol/alcohol does not eat thru every cell membrane though. And guess what.? I could give a bakers fuk what another adult chooses to do to themselves in their time, and their own free will. So long as it doesn't infringe on my, or anyone else's freedom and republican lifestyle & liberties. I got my family. Or...I pronbably could say that with allot more confidence hadn't the government bent America, her fundamental values, & all her people & broke one off. With no kiss, just some childish guidlines, names, patronisation, & plain out flat blatant, "you all are tiny people w/ tiny minds that need guidance" bullshit. Yeah. That's dfamn straight now days. Grown ass motherfuggers everywhere ya look that couldn't lift a leg to fart well because they're as much an irresponsible, immature, adolescent as their damn 14yr old brat sitting next to them with not a manner in the world, no set fundamental values, no self esteem, no fukin confidence, not a shred of dignity, or anything but a fukin myspace date to send fuked up pictures & ideas to their buddies & milk their "weaknesses"/"illnesses"/anxiety/depression/adhd/ & what the hell all else they've been told they are because their piss boy of a father can't get a grip on life because his punk ass never has had a real taste of freedom & failure. Fukin kickstand, fall-back-crutch, wellfare ass, post-up & chill while "the man", oh..."the man" is half black too!???wtf??? how the hell's that work with uncle willie. It's okay with me. & Uncle Tome too probably. Nah, uncle Tom doesn't care that his Obama is such a bytch, yet at the same time, punkin his whole race.
uuuuugggh....let me stand down & take a knee. I almost felt free there for a sec. Then I remembered that Those disguise wearing politicians that have, for the most part, never seen a true hard time, but they know better than me. What's good for me, my life, & my family. They understand my situation & what & why I'm allowed to do this, but not that. Fukkkkk....gimme a fukin break. How bout this. Just gimme my fukin money back, my freedom, and country. Keep that "change" & "yes we can" bullshit to yourself or whoever else feels they need their hand held through every decision & challenge life might throw your way. I got mine. I.. me. myself. no "we". This is all about individual liberty. I don't need a hand with whatever I feel like doing in my free time. I'd rather people stay outta my business, especially my relaxing family time. "we"...'we' if ya wanna. I could give a damn what y'all do, chant, sing, praise, yell as a group, & even more so, I could care less what someone is doing at their own liberty. If it isn't effecting my freedom, or anyone I am responsible for. Why in the fuk should it be of any, not even the slightest of concern? I know. It damn well shouldn't make a hill of shit what any damn one of us do with our time. So long as it doesn't effect others negatively. You do whatever the hell makes you happy, & I'll do my thang. I promise you won't notice any irresponsible acts, or even a hint of bullshit manifesting from my actions. No matter what the fuk I'm doing. IN MY GOD GIVEN FREEDOM, and much more valid, MY FREEDOM THAT WAS GRANTED ME BY WAY OF HARD MEN & WOMEN FIGHTING HARD FOR IT TO BE THAT WAY. For those stripes & stars. & every single breathing American in this country. Do your part commis. Worry about yo fukin ass, & if you have yourself under control before you even burden your weary heart with my trials & tribulations. I got me. Or...actually, it's getting harder & harder the more the government gets involved in the private sector, stickin their dik-sniffers all in everybody's bidness, trying to regulate every fukin thing that they don't think our innocent little hearts & minds could bare. those horrifying business owner's, wealthy folks, & not to forget. that scary Sarah Palin lady & even scarier...Ron Paul. But truthfully. Those 2 individuals I just named do scare the living shit out of those broke-back limp-dik bytches sittin over on the left hand side trying to dictate what's good, or not so, for you & yours.

I'm out. I just had to blow that off real quick. I haven't paid attention to politics, or even much news lately. I catch the weather. We have progressed on forward towards our demise. We're a democracy. As much as I hate to say it, Ron Paul is just a pipedream. More like hard trip. That straight-up conservative means exactly what he says & stands for. He will do what he knows to be the correct way for America. Therefor, there ain't no fukin way he'll be posted up where that slinky fukin purple lipped gourd-headed muthafuker Slackonia Mama Slowbama sits today. Dr Ron just ain't got that "pizazz"..."celebrity"...that..."I'm so ungrateful for all the paved roads which were taken care of by my forefathers," yeah Obama. Even your daddy's ass reaped the greatest benefits of his life from those brave men that faught for those stars & stripes that stood in the corner of that ivy-league university where Obama Sr's commi muslim african american freedom hatin ass sat down, studied, was fed, & bedded down on the men & women that went out against that grind for their 2 bits to feed their families. oh. & to pay for the minority to have the cushiest path to anything they fukin could ever want for.
Thank God those mutherfukers made it outta that hell hole of countries where they gotta drink ditch water, sacrifice the tribe virgin for debt, murder, get eaten, & just plain live the natural way of the east African, tribal African, & just...fuk-head, dipshit piss poor African. Oh, east Africa is all Muslim too. Not being racist, or religeon bashing. just carrying on a topic with facts, and stressing valid points. That's something I've learned in my adult life that our History books didn't always do. And now history has been re-written. a time or 2 since Obama's speedy ass has slithered into orphas.
PEACE. or bring whatever you're about. I prefer peace & freedom. But entertain whatever has to be.
Go the fuk hard or go the fuk home. I am damn proud to be an American & grateful isn't the word for my state of mind living & breathing American air & having the liberties that we still do have.
Anyone against liberty should get the fuk out, or stand up. Show your face. Don't sneak around. Rep your shit hard. Believe in your beliefs. We do ours.
The government needs to loosen the straps. I'm getting held down by my opwn people, & let it's people become responsible, wise, seasoned, adults. Instead of the bytches that come from a nanny state.

[JsJs24]

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I would love, so much. Being a conservative republican that repps hard our original republican state of government & life, I would give a nut.

Tell us how you really feel..lol. That took a while to read but very well said.

[daved150]

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Tell us how you really feel..lol. That took a while to read but very well said.

no shyt!!! try talking to him on the phone!!! my boys never at a loss for words!! i think we still have a line open from 2009, and hes rattling on about some shyt!!! lol

[FUZO]

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I NEVER HUNG UP YET FROM LAST YEAR,LOL HAHAHAHA

[horsepwr]

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lol...I know my conversation holds value though. well, 95% of my bs is heard. I notice some folks fade now-&-then. or can't keep up.
If someone goes on with me, I just set the phone down. I gotta give my 2pennies. Especially the ones that are schooling me on shit I figured out while they were fukin with garbage-pail kids...a damn hacky sack...wtf ever. I take in allot. It'd be selfish to withhold all that valuable knowledge to myself. It'd go to waste. I'm on the next issues.lol.. But you know...I gotcha. Just give a shout when you need a lifeline. I got 'em.

[irish_2003]

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i thought Ron Paul and Michelle Bachman did the best at that debate......i really don't like anyone else in the current field now.....(although is Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Rick Perry run it will definitely change the field for the better)

[FUZO]

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I'M LIKING RICK PERRY OF TEXAS BUT GET THIS THE LIBERAL MEDIA SAYS OH NO NOT ANOTHER TEXAS GOV RUNNING