brutal kids....

[daved150]

man, any of you parents, or whoever, notice how brutal these kids are becoming? another girl from huron michigan (i grew up near there) just commited suicide beocuse of the bullying...appearently it was just horrible and her mom went on fox2 to complain about how bad it was and how she couldnt get the school districts to allow her to change schools and she couldnt afford private...the primary bully lived 8 doors down from this school...after the piece air on fox2 he went ballistic on her...got all his friends and their friends to gang up on her at school. she ended her life this past monday....
my daughter was being bully'd by a group of girls. the good part is, she has 2 VERY close friends that are there for her...anyways, becouse she didnt want to get in trouble by me she just took it....well..she startede acting real goofy the last few weeks..lashing out at her brother (more than normal) her mom (mistake) me (big fukin mistake) and started getting in trouble at home and saying "why dont you just send me to live with my cousins?? i dont want to live with you anymore"...well this fukin killed me...i was so upset..pissed..hurt...i wanted to beat her ass until it fell off and at the same time hug her and not let go!!! well...i guess she finally snap last wed when this bully grabed her hair from behind and smacked her in the side of her head like you would a dumbfuk, (shes got a intercostal (whatever) earing in that ear...hurt like fuk i bet)...this kid did this right infront of the principle...she grabbed the girl and they went at it..i dont think jess kicked this girls ass, but everyone said she smashed her face a few times and her eye and cheek was bruised the next few days....but it was becouse of these kids that my daughter wanted to act so bad as to get shipped to her cousins!!! what the fuk is wrong with these kids?? right in front of the principle? my kids wont start shyt becouse i'll bust their ass...other parents arent the same? your gonna let your kid get away wiht this type of behavior?

[O2BESOHUGE]

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YEAH, ITS A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME THAN WHEN WE GREW UP

[tn94z]

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What surprises me more than the brutality of the bullies is how quickly these kids are committing suicide. I mean the suicide rate among young kids has increased drastically within the past year or two. I know these bullies are brutal but I don't think any more so than a year or two ago.

And it's not just the bullied kids either. There have been a couple of suicides in my area that were not from being bullied. What is going on with these kids? Where do they get the idea of suicide in the first place? I am not blaming these kids by any means, so don't take this the wrong way, but it just amazes me how this becomes the go to in these situations.

My step-son (about to be 9, currently in the 3rd grade) came home the other day and says "Me and Ryan were in the bathroom and this kid came up and gave us both Texas wedgies." He asked me what he should have done. Now I know my response is not what some people will tell their kids but this is the way I was raised and it's just the way I responded....I told him that the next time some person grabs his underwear while he is using the bathroom, to turn around and punch him in the mouth. He says "but then you and mom will get mad at me." I told him that as long as he was taking up for himself, and he didn't start the fight (as in picking on someone) then I would never get mad at him. I told him that you can't go through life taking this kind of bullying. Then he asks "what if I get beat up....the kid was a lot bigger." I told him that many times when you show that you aren't scared of these bullies, they won't do anything.

The conversation proceeded but you get the idea of where I was going. I know this may not be the best advice in "today's society" but I want to teach him to take up for himself early. I ended it by telling him that if he just starts a fight or hits people for no reason, then we will have a problem. I asked him if he liked getting bullied and he said no. Then I told him to remember that feeling and that he should never bully anybody because he would make them feel the same way.

[daved150]

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THAT EXACTLY WHAT I'D TELL HIM!!! ANYONE WHO WOULDNT TELL HIM THAT IS NUTS IN MY OPINION!!! i think thats part of the prob! raising weak kids...not weak physicaly, but weak minded! my kids know my opinion of suicide just from being around me...i find those individuals weak...weak minded...its sad that they were not taught how to process adversity and grow from it, but rather cave in!! there's alot of stress in the world...A TON of it. and i'm sure the stress of parents trickle down to the kids. i know my kids struggle with what we're going through....collections calling the house n'shyt...i'm know they over here me and the wife talking...i sit wiht my kids all the time and explain to them what they are hearing us say and the fact that, in the end, it'll all be perfectly fine....but whatever...thats us...these kids face alot, but the bully's are uglier than ever and the schools dont want to fuk wiht it becouse the parents always back their angels!! it amazes me when i hear parents saying the shyt the kid says...such and such teacher dont like my kid...WHAT? ARE YOU FUKIN KIDDING ME??? I DONTN WANT THE TEACHER TO LIKE MY KID!!! I WANT THEM TO TEACH MY KID YOU FUKIN MORAN!!! i mean...when i was a kid...i was NEVER right!! the teacher was right 100% of the time!!! it didnt matter what i said. the parent of the kid that grabbed my daughter actually got pissed at the principle for expelling her for 5days second offence!!! REALLY? your really gonna get pissed at the priciple??? your little angel does no wrong?? my kids do!!! they dont do right!!! i suspect them before anything!!! and i'm always right!!! these parent are fuked up

[tn94z]

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THAT EXACTLY WHAT I'D TELL HIM!!! ANYONE WHO WOULDNT TELL HIM THAT IS NUTS IN MY OPINION!!! i think thats part of the prob! raising weak kids...not weak physicaly, but weak minded! my kids know my opinion of suicide just from being around me...i find those individuals weak...weak minded...its sad that they were not taught how to process adversity and grow from it, but rather cave in!! there's alot of stress in the world...A TON of it. and i'm sure the stress of parents trickle down to the kids. i know my kids struggle with what we're going through....collections calling the house n'shyt...i'm know they over here me and the wife talking...i sit wiht my kids all the time and explain to them what they are hearing us say and the fact that, in the end, it'll all be perfectly fine....but whatever...thats us...these kids face alot, but the bully's are uglier than ever and the schools dont want to fuk wiht it becouse the parents always back their angels!! it amazes me when i hear parents saying the shyt the kid says...such and such teacher dont like my kid...WHAT? ARE YOU FUKIN KIDDING ME??? I DONTN WANT THE TEACHER TO LIKE MY KID!!! I WANT THEM TO TEACH MY KID YOU FUKIN MORAN!!! i mean...when i was a kid...i was NEVER right!! the teacher was right 100% of the time!!! it didnt matter what i said. the parent of the kid that grabbed my daughter actually got pissed at the principle for expelling her for 5days second offence!!! REALLY? your really gonna get pissed at the priciple??? your little angel does no wrong?? my kids do!!! they dont do right!!! i suspect them before anything!!! and i'm always right!!! these parent are fuked up

You are EXACTLY right! I didn't want to throw that out there but I think the parent's are at fault. But on the other hand, the way the society is today, most parents are afraid to discipline their kids like they should be disciplined. When I was a kid, I can remember getting in trouble and my mom taking me to the bath room and making me drop my pants and I got WORE out with a belt!! Now it's timeout this and timeout that....go to your room....well, hell that don't work because they have tv, playstations, computers, nintendo ds, etc....that they can play with and they don't even get in trouble. It's ridiculous and IMHO, that's what's wrong with much of the world today.

If these kids today got whippings like we got when we were younger, most of this crap wouldn't be happening. You can say tv this and tv that, but my kid watches tv like everyone else and he is as respectful as can be and is for sure not a bully. It's all in how they are raised.

[daved150]

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thats right!!! i'll knock a kids ass off!!! i'll bust that fuker up and my kid will have to crawl around picking up the pieces!!!! and i dont make a secret of it!! i tell everyone of their teachers, other parents, other kids...I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!! I WILL BEAT MY KIDS ASS IF HE/SHE GETS OUT OF LINE!!! any parent that has a problem with that, too fukin bad!!! i had jessica's 4th grade teacher say, "when i told jessica that i was going to explain that she was too chatty in class, wasnt turning in her homework and would be getting an E for this card marking, she started crying and saying you were gonna spank her, bwahahahaha"....i just looked at her..."hahaha....i am"...and i did!!! i dont know if her teacher passed her the rest of the year becouse of that or if i fixed the problem!! either way...it worked.
but these bullyin kids need to be bully'd!!! they need tuff love!!! we have turned into a society so affraid to punish our kids becouse of the law or becouse we got our ass beat, that we are raising a generation of weak minded, unruley kids

[FUZO]

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Well thats a reason why I have my daughter in karate so if anyone tries to bully her she will be able to defend herself

[Dzone]

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That bullying shit should be dealt with in the harshest way humanly possible stopping just short of killing the sombieetches

[rc10j1]

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It's the pussification of America. People today are weak.

[mtnmedic]

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Right on daved !!!! I think about this whole what the hell is up with kids nowadays ALOT ! well folks in general, and I think what it is is that people are just lazy. I mean really, everything is just a "push button", xanax, or Google away from solving a problem. I've been bully'd all my f'ing life for crying out loud and I just learned how to deal with it. whether it was at school, a keg party in the woods, or even nowadays there's allways some dude wanting to screw with me..guess cause im 5'4" ? but somewhere along the way I grew a set of bollocks, became smarter and am working on a brown belt in kempo. I walked away from lots of confrontations by as Bruce Lee would call "fighting without fighting". sure I've been afraid but I never would let myself down by being someones *****. I dont know for sure what it is exactly but I know it does take some self motivation and worth in ones self, right ? yeah people are super violent kids dont just push ya around or trip you up they'll literally kick and stomp another kids head like a soccer ball,..or worse yet just kill you with somethin'. If there is anything that torks me the most is some a$$hole with a complex wanting to f&%k with somebody, yeah and catty women too ! have you ever seen how some chicks act when they get around one another ? the're sizing'em up and down, what there wearing, make up, whatever silly s#it. bottom line is I believe people should learn to face and deal with things in life, rather than being caught up in the convienience of easy way outs. if that makes sense.

[jipped genes]

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bullying is wrong. but when i was a kid i was bullied and i learned to stand up for myself and i had plenty of bloody noses and had rumors spread about me where large numbers of folk laughed when i walked down the hall at school but i didnt even think about suicide.

our society has created a generation of "sissy" children. they are so protected from bullying in school, athletics ect they cant handle it when it happens. they lack the basic social tools to handle this type of adversity and stand up for themselves because they expect someone else to take care of them



if i got bullied in school i either stood up for myself or took it. children have been so pampered they are weak. my generation got out everyday and played sports and interacted with bullys from a young age and when we were in highschool we could handle the pressure.

[daved150]

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i agree...this generation is fuked up...i wonder how much of it has to do wiht the internet and not having to develope social skills to deal with adversity when its in your face? also...the bullys...how much of that is the fact that they have no filter? on the internet they say anything...whatever pops into their head, without thinking out the consequences. perfect example...since i have ground my daughter for a bit, this week she has spent wiht me and her mom, watching tv, talking...and i realize, she dont even understand alot about adult television. we just started watching criminal minds and without a trace and the question my daughter ask's are like "really??? your askiong that?? i knew that at 11!!!" i cant even explain it, but its a level of niativity that i would expect out of a 9 or 10 yr old. she get B's and C's in school....she's not an idiot...but...wow...

[horsepwr]

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man, any of you parents, or whoever, notice how brutal these kids are becoming? another girl from huron michigan (i grew up near there) just commited suicide beocuse of the bullying...appearently it was just horrible and her mom went on fox2 to complain about how bad it was and how she couldnt get the school districts to allow her to change schools and she couldnt afford private...the primary bully lived 8 doors down from this school...after the piece air on fox2 he went ballistic on her...got all his friends and their friends to gang up on her at school. she ended her life this past monday....
my daughter was being bully'd by a group of girls. the good part is, she has 2 VERY close friends that are there for her...anyways, becouse she didnt want to get in trouble by me she just took it....well..she startede acting real goofy the last few weeks..lashing out at her brother (more than normal) her mom (mistake) me (big fukin mistake) and started getting in trouble at home and saying "why dont you just send me to live with my cousins?? i dont want to live with you anymore"...well this fukin killed me...i was so upset..pissed..hurt...i wanted to beat her ass until it fell off and at the same time hug her and not let go!!! well...i guess she finally snap last wed when this bully grabed her hair from behind and smacked her in the side of her head like you would a dumbfuk, (shes got a intercostal (whatever) earing in that ear...hurt like fuk i bet)...this kid did this right infront of the principle...she grabbed the girl and they went at it..i dont think jess kicked this girls ass, but everyone said she smashed her face a few times and her eye and cheek was bruised the next few days....but it was becouse of these kids that my daughter wanted to act so bad as to get shipped to her cousins!!! what the fuk is wrong with these kids?? right in front of the principle? my kids wont start shyt becouse i'll bust their ass...other parents arent the same? your gonna let your kid get away wiht this type of behavior?

that is fukin terrible. It's been going on forever though man. I've spoken out about this shit with people, and about everyone I've talked to about it, it seems about everyone has experienced some form of bullying. But you are right about the schools not seeming to give a shit these days. That seems to be the forefront of the whole bullying issue now. That the adults running the schools look the other way. From what I can remember, they did that when I was coming up. And some kids were mean as hell. Kids can be so damn cruel, as the sayin goes, but I think that all the different avenues of media make it worse now-days. With facebook, myspace, etc.
I tell ya what though man. I would be absolutely pissed to learn of my daughter being so insensative towards someone. I'm having to tach her, everyday, proper ways and manners. Compassion for others, etc...all that, but she still is a 6yr old girl. And girls can be the meanest. I know I, with the help of another close family member, are succeeding with my daughter. But, in shaping her into a caring, loving individual, I constantly try to walk the fine line to instill great self confidence and the self esteem and/or self defense sense to a point where she will not let someone bully her. I do not want her to ever pull aggression on someone, and I would be more than pissed if she ever hurt someone. But I would be mad as hell, not at her, but to learn that someone hurt my girl. Hence my teaching her to never let someone harm her. A quick display of self defense on a bully will end that cruel bullshit for good. I've witnessed it. Being the runt in grade school, I proved that for myself more than once. And I hope that your daughter's action against that girl will prove to be a good thing for your daughter's future against bullying.
This bullshit where the authorities of the school doing nothing is just that. bs! So, since I can't be there for my daughter all the time, and she needs to understand how and when to use self defense. I'm going to trust my instincts. Do my best to parent properly. Do my best to instill the rights values. And make damn sure she doesn't let some bully put her in such a situation as we see too often on the news these days. FUK THAT! No, I don't believe girls should fight. No, I don't want my daughter even getting into an argument, but I damn sure don't want some bully damaging the most valuable thing of my life. So I'll accept whatever the recoil from a quick, well placed right hook to the bully, heaven forbid, over the lifelong damage that can come from the little piece of trash that's obviously raised by trash. Because evidently no-one, but the individual that's catching hell from a bully, is going to even so much as raise an eye-brow these days. Worthless principle. That principle needs a good lesson in bullying. Then maybe. Just maybe, that principle would take action once they realize how critical action is in those instances.

[horsepwr]

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I had to go to the school, for the 2nd time, this morning about a little shit threatening my daughter. We're talking about kindergaten here. Earlier in the year, this little troubled boy threatened her to tears. It scared her to tears. So, of course, I was at the school the next morning talking to her teacher about it. The teacher informed me that this little bboy had been trouble since day 1. The teacher can't get his parents for a confrence. She said she couldn't even get their sorry asses on the phone. She told me she actually got the father to answer one day. She asked to speak to the mother, and the father refused to wake her ass up. wtf...So, obviously this child is acting out because he has a poor homelife.
Fast forward a month or so, to yesterday morning. My daughter wasn't wanting to go to school because of a "stomach ache". She did go, and had a fine day. This morning. She didn't wanmt to go again. Reason; "tummy ache'. So, me and mommy got it out of her that she was afraid of this little boy again. I took myself to school to talk to someone in administration. I got a call from my wife that our girl decided to go to school, (I wasn't going to force. Just for 1 day though). So, we all got to talk to someone. Hopefully something will get done. But, as I told my daughter early this morning, and the couselor stated the same. "You're going to have someone that tries to bother you all your life." Name calling?..She needs to toughen up, ignore, and get over it. The more serious threat issue thing earlier this yr was unacceptable, to say the least. But, a little name calling. Not worth getting worked up over. I do want some resolution though. This poor child that's acting out needs some resolution. His parents need their asses kicked up to their shoulder blades, eidently. Irresponsible. Won't answer the phone. The teacher can't even get them on the phone. That's sorry as hell. That's their child! for heavens sake. For his sake! Do something!!!

I feel confident in the school's competance in doing something about it. I feel sorry for that little boy for having parents that don't give a shit.
It's what this world's become. It's what parenting has become. It's what "parents" have become. "parents"...yeah. right.

[daved150]

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ok...well, you can get one of the bigger first grade boys to take care of him kinda cheap...in detroit the going rate is a "king size" candy bar and a couple earasers...the type that go on the end of the pencil. if he's too much for a 1st grader, a 2nd grader usually just costs a hotwheels car...but nothing crazy...it can be a reguler ford or gm or whatever and the bonus it the kindengardner usually wont talk to your daughter until 6th or 7th grade!!!

oh...and you could go bust dad in the chops...maybe teach him how to parent...