New study:Alcohol more harmful than crack, heroin, etc

[Dzone]

Wow. I guess this shouldn't be much of a surprise. Alcohol is an evil evil drug

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1325472/Professor-David-Nutt-Alcohol-harmful-heroin-crack-Ecstasy.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[horsepwr]

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oh, yes sir! by a long shot. Alcohol is the absolute worst thing you can put in your body.

which reminds me. I have a 6-pack to drink. Some special beer my neighbors brought back from their vacation!

[jipped genes]

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i have never done heroin. but i have only heard of a handful of folk dying from alcohol poisoning and junkies OD all the time on heroin.

also have these folk ever seen a meth head scurrying about with sores all over their body, sunken cheeks and the propensity for stealing copper from live power lines?

i think i will stick to alcohol

[daved150]

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i understand the point of view...i also understand the science behind the finding...but as jipped said...i'll stick to my alcohol.....naaaa...you wont see me going the healthier route of sucking on a crack pipe!! real world dont match up to the science

[rc10j1]

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Jesus drank alcohol. Thats good enough for me.

[horsepwr]

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i have never done heroin. but i have only heard of a handful of folk dying from alcohol poisoning and junkies OD all the time on heroin.

also have these folk ever seen a meth head scurrying about with sores all over their body, sunken cheeks and the propensity for stealing copper from live power lines?

i think i will stick to alcohol

That's the thing with some drugs. Mainly prescription drugs on the black market now-days. There are a few drugs out there that can be easily overdosed resulting in death. The same can be done with alcohol as well, of course. And is done with alcohol on a regular basis. Just under 1000 people a week are treated for alcohol OD in the U.S. 50% of those die. I'd have to check, but I'm willin to bet that hardly a fraction of that OD on heroin a week. You'd probably have to add synthetic heroin, such as oxycontin, to even reach a weekly overdose number.

[tn94z]

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To me, these kinds of comparisons can be skewed however you want to get the results you want by classifying each different criteria to weigh more than others.


IMO, there is no way that drinking a bud light is worse than taking a hit of meth where you are 99% likely to get addicted to it after one try....come on.

I understand what is trying to be portrayed here, but give me a break.

[horsepwr]

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Where on God's green earth did you hear that you are 99% likely to get addicted to meth after one try? I can debunk that myself. yep. I've witnessed, with my own 2 eyeballs, about 4 or 5 people smoking meth, and out of that group, only 1 was an addict.
Talk about skewing numbers.

I just read up on herion. Herion was created by the German company Bayer. The same Bayer that manufactures asprin. It was manufactured, and marketed, as a non-addictive alternative to morphine. Herion was a cough suppressant & pain-killer. It wasn't long at all before the non-addictive part had to be retracted as the Bayer company learned that herion quickly metabolizes into morphine by the body.
After some reading up, I learned that heroin is prescribed in several countries to addicts so that they can live a normal life without having to deal with the black market, possibility of obtaining bad heroin, and to keep them off the streets. So evidently, a daily quality heroin dose can be a responsible, and healthy, alternative to the black market. Of course that sounds crazy to most of us, but when the doc tells us that a daily glass of red wine actually has some health benefits, we aren't shocked at all. And if you read up on the effects of ethanol/alcohol on the human body, cells, cell membranes, brain cells...basically, everything that it comes in contact with, you might wonder how any alcohol could possibly be healthy.

[horsepwr]

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Now, meth on the other hand...Everything that shit's made out of has a skull and cross-bones. That shit's rough on somebody.

[tn94z]

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Where on God's green earth did you hear that you are 99% likely to get addicted to meth after one try? I can debunk that myself. yep. I've witnessed, with my own 2 eyeballs, about 4 or 5 people smoking meth, and out of that group, only 1 was an addict.
Talk about skewing numbers.

I just read up on herion. Herion was created by the German company Bayer. The same Bayer that manufactures asprin. It was manufactured, and marketed, as a non-addictive alternative to morphine. Herion was a cough suppressant & pain-killer. It wasn't long at all before the non-addictive part had to be retracted as the Bayer company learned that herion quickly metabolizes into morphine by the body.
After some reading up, I learned that heroin is prescribed in several countries to addicts so that they can live a normal life without having to deal with the black market, possibility of obtaining bad heroin, and to keep them off the streets. So evidently, a daily quality heroin dose can be a responsible, and healthy, alternative to the black market. Of course that sounds crazy to most of us, but when the doc tells us that a daily glass of red wine actually has some health benefits, we aren't shocked at all. And if you read up on the effects of ethanol/alcohol on the human body, cells, cell membranes, brain cells...basically, everything that it comes in contact with, you might wonder how any alcohol could possibly be healthy.

I was exaggerating a little on that to make a point. If you want real numbers then take dilaudid for example...I know the addiction rate is that high on them because I have friends that ruined their lives on them. Same difference IMO

[horsepwr]

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One thing I really feel I need to get out there; I don't condemn anyone for any vices we may have. I used to laugh and call 'bullshit' when a doctor or addict referred to their situation as a disease. I have since learned that addiction, wheather alcohol or drugs, is as legitimate a disease as any. Which medication is needed for life in some cases. Regardless of the vice. I'm not judging, condemning, or any of the sort. I'll probably enjoy one of those beers my neighbors brought me this evening while my wife enjoys her evenin glass of wine. or 2.
It's all about responsibility. With freedom comes responsibility. Since we've lost so much freedom, with it, responsibility has went by the wayside.
Cheers

[Dzone]

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Just want to make sure that I say that I didnt post this thread to dog anyone about drinking...Nothing wrong with it in moderation...I personally havent drank alcohol in years..but when I did, I was a hard core drinker..Damn near killed myself with alcohol...I hardly ever drank when I was younger...but went thru a phase when I was going to bars and then would go home and drink some more. 100 Proof vodka..Thank God I don't drink anymore.
One time, when my dad was in the ICU, I was talking to the head nurse and she told me if it weren't for cigarettes and alcohol, that the hospital would be at least 50% empty

[horsepwr]

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damn! I believe it.

[wolfyEVH]

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of course alcohol is worse because more people do it. therefore, you're going to have more alcohol related injuries, deaths, etc. brb...time to drink another doppelbock.

[horsepwr]

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of course alcohol is worse because more people do it. therefore, you're going to have more alcohol related injuries, deaths, etc. brb...time to drink another doppelbock.

"worse because more people do it."...hmm...k?..
Statistics don't lie. And I was talking about alcohol overdose, or alcohol poisoning, to use the more popular term. Not alcohol related deaths. 960 alcohol OD cases per week in 2009. That's here in America alone. Half of those die. That's not even factoring in the deaths resulting from long term alcohol use.