Interview Reveals Ron Paul May Run for President in 2012

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I'm guessing "ball" is a metaphor for (term). The short term mentality of government is right along with most Americans. If only everyone played long-ball strategies most laws would not even be.

Good point about the gold standard too Js.
The Gold Standard got squashed, and in come horseshyt income and economy.

Ron Paul needs to become a much larger figure. His morals and standards don't really allow him to become that celebrity that America has become needy of. Everybody needs a celebrity. Everybody just needs that big story. A big horseshit story is good enough. So long as it's a story and it captures their attention. Sadly, that's most of the population. Hence our current situation and president. America had all they needed to make a better decision. They chose what they need now-days. Which is fukin sick. down right disgusting.
I'm just afraid Ron Paul couldn't be the guy that Americans think they need. I use the word "need" because it is like a bad habit, or addiction. We've become needy of some pretty low guilty pleasures. Look at us now. buncha needy bytches. We need to get back to what's real. There are only a few things in a man and woman's life that really means something. If everyone went hard to take care of their real needs, then Ron Paul would take it. Everybody needs other shit though. Shit that Ron Paul doesn't believe in.

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I'm just afraid Ron Paul couldn't be the guy that Americans think they need.

I think you are missing the fact that Ron Paul won the two text poles Fox News had for the Republican Debate they put on during the 2008 presidential election, and he won the last CPAC Republican convention pole, and he tied Mitt Romney for first in another Republican convention pole. Thus, people do like Ron Paul, and the ones who are active in politics seem to favor him over all the other candidates. However, when the primaries open he loses. This is either because of a lack of fund-raising compared to the big machine candidates or a fixed election. And with electronic voting these days I'm not convinced that voter fraud isn't the norm. You see, people like Paul when they hear him talk and try to understand him, but all of the conservative media and news outlets smash him and make fun of him. It is humiliating and disgusting. It has made me lost respect for all that partake in it, even Glenn Beck whom I have always liked. He is a hypocrite for saying he is a libertarian but slamming Paul every chance he gets. He is not a libertarians, far from it, but I still like to listen to him because he has a lot of good info on politicians and their quest to destroy the country. But in the end Ron Paul will never be president but at least he will walk away knowing he stood by his principles, something no other presidential candidate can do, not even Huckabee the all religious good man. They all lie and say what they need to. Paul on the other hand tells the truth and nobody wants to hear it.

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IDEAS AND PRODUCTS ARE NOT SOLD THEY ARE BOUGHT

3 STAGES OF BUYING

A. STATUS QUO
B. PROBLEM
C. CRISIS MODE

it's why i always say libertarians in 2020's , imho government debt is unsustainable, crisis will escalate and the status quo on either side will be unacceptable

imho, pauls chances increase everyday, he's gotta communicate better

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It's stage 3. or C, which so many haven't realized. We've been in it for a decent while now. A few yrs of some real crisis, yet not many have awakened to the call. That takes me back to the addict. Much of America is like a bunch of addicts. Usually someone with this disease will not wake up to reality and grab hold with everything they have to make the changes needed until they hit the lowest note they can handle. Alot of folks are well aware, but there are so many still sold on government intervention. Rather than themselves. The individual. Freedom from government chains. So much of the population has become acclimated to a nanny state. They vote for the candidate who will, 'take care of them', the best. People need to be taken care of now. We're all owed something. I just want my liberties and to not be a target. If I were a business man that made a decent income, I would feel as if I was walking around with a damn target on my back. They were just talking of tax hikes this morning. Right now! Taxing people! Are they %$#@'n crazy? Take away from our economy. Take more dollars out of circulation!

[trip]

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taxes don't mean shyte, as long as interest rates for fed funds rates are at .25% it just means the fed is stealing pension funds from mericans to give to government and banks and rich folks

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right! if you'e being sarcastic, cause correct. Taxes can make or break government interest, rich folks and the barely scrapin it guy.

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taxes don't mean shyte, as long as interest rates for fed funds rates are at .25% it just means the fed is stealing pension funds from mericans to give to government and banks and rich folks

Taxes mean a lot. It doesn't matter where the money is going, it matters where it's coming from. Taxing people that are in the lower bracket just makes them more broke, and taxing people higher bracket just makes them less productive. If I'm making 249,000 a year and the tax bracket goes up at 250,000, I'm going to do whatever I can to stay at the lower bracket. Not to mention people aren't going to hire people if they're uncertain about their own income. There are a lot more things to go along with it that I don't feel like getting into, but the bottom line is that taxes matter, a lot.

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yes sir! taxes are of the top couple priorities for everybody. Wheather they realize it or not.
Taxes can be the deciding factor of all.
The service industry driven economy that is now can not pass the tax hikes on to the consumer. The consumer just would not, and does not, pay for that kind of price hike.
Ya know. If a business hikes prices as the taxes are, that business has committed a crime. price gouging

[JsJs24]

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taxes don't mean shyte, as long as interest rates for fed funds rates are at .25% it just means the fed is stealing pension funds from mericans to give to government and banks and rich folks

I can't believe I am reading this. No comment worthy.

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japan folks, we are turning japanese

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trip why do you say taxes dont mean shit

[trip]

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quantitative easing

ket;s sat u make 100k and have saved 100k for retirement, normally u'd get 5k, 5% return on you're money

so they blather about cutting taxes, say that saves u 3k, u still lost 2k on the bottom line

of that 3k u save, u can guarantee they jacked up this for or that fee or some otherr tax, so yeah ur income tax is less but u pay somewhere else

when something is said a zillion times over 30 years it becomes a believe whetherr right or wrong

i'd say by and large repubicans are probably per capita bigger savers, just a guess here, but i'd bet it's right, so essentially penalizing folks who were prudent, savers, did the right thing

it's all bullshit

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quantitative easing

ket;s sat u make 100k and have saved 100k for retirement, normally u'd get 5k, 5% return on you're money

so they blather about cutting taxes, say that saves u 3k, u still lost 2k on the bottom line

of that 3k u save, u can guarantee they jacked up this for or that fee or some otherr tax, so yeah ur income tax is less but u pay somewhere else

when something is said a zillion times over 30 years it becomes a believe whetherr right or wrong

i'd say by and large repubicans are probably per capita bigger savers, just a guess here, but i'd bet it's right, so essentially penalizing folks who were prudent, savers, did the right thing

it's all bullshit

What the hell are you talking about Trip. Savings and earning are two different things. Cutting taxes means more net income, period. Of course they can raise taxes in other areas but the fact remains that a lower tax rate means more bring home pay to spend on living expenses, recreation, and savings. And as for the tax rates of current, they are going to go up on capital gains, death tax, and income tax. As of the last 10 years all of those were cut significantly, thus people were able to save more and spend more. The interest rates are what affect saving currently, not taxes. Lower interest rates equate to lower yields on savings accounts, money markets, and cds. You are making things more complicated than needs to be. Lower taxes are key to a prospering economy. That is why a lot of businesses don't want to expand and hire right now, because they don't know what their tax rates are going to be, and that includes corporate tax rates too. But for you to say taxes don't mean shiyt is just ridiculous. You always jump to another area and try to complicate things. Nobody was talking about retirement accounts were they?

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it's all about the bottom line, what is in ledger after liabilities are taken from assets

i've ran small businesse's and counseled small business's for 30 years, not once did we discuss taxes, never ever, it's a pure cost, always has always will be

expand, capacity utilazation is running 7% below average, sales will suck for years because of credit deflation and earnings will flat line cause corporations have the upper hand

the volatility in commodity prices also make it almost impossible for big companies to budget, in ten years gasoline has sold for 1.25, 2.50, 4.50, 1,75. 2.75

last ten years savings rate went from 6% too 1%, and now are at 4%

lower interest allows goverment to extend and pretend it's own debt

a question was asked, that is how i CHOSE to answer it, taxes don't mean shyte to me, never have never will, i'm a profit person, cost is cost

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profits. Aren't we all.
Of course, businesses expect overhead. Costs...taxes. A 500% hike in 1 aspect of taxes such as unemployment tax. That would be gouging if a business hiked something like that. period. It's unethical and not business as usual. It is robbery. The government has grown to extreme proportions. Spending...no need to rehash there. The answer is not to keep attempting to afford this great government and it's bad habits. The answer lies in cutting. Note the small business survival package. Make cuts where possible to survive this turbulant economy.