America's most "dangerous" cities.

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Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

it's crimes against a person that they count, armed robbery, battery, murder

it's a fact plighted area's good business's move to more lucrative area, and then people get restless

detroit has had zero job growth in 10 years, even during two bubbles they lost jobs, mfg started leaving in 1992 down to mexico, up too canada..........when you lose your main tax base it just get's extremely tough, smart children move to greener grass and you end up in a vicious circle unless you have some competitive advantage

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yep Dave. It is a direct link. That's the deal with Jersey. That's what's up with Detroit, and a list longer than that one I posted. They listed about 20-30 cities that have been ran by democrats promising greener grass for decades, only to run them farther and farther into the gutter.
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. Politics are crooked, but the left wingers redefine "crooked". They sell everything on a silver platter. "I'm cleaning these streets up. It's time to end poverty for this town". And it's sank deeper and deeper into the shytter. All while someone's getting richer. As these towns get poorer, someone gets richer. For a while, at least, because they are the cities and states that are taxed the most. There's a direct corelation to tax hikes and econoimy going to hell. If you offer a good service, or have a good product(business) in such a town, but you can't keep afloat because all your gains are taken by the city and/or state. What's the smartest business move? Get the hell outa dodge. So these decent hard workin, money makin, tax payin, ethical people, take their asses to truly greener grasses. Then, what gets left behind. You guessed it.
Take the Hurricane Katrina scenario. A perfect example of this compacted into just a few short days. New Orleans isn't nothing but ghetto, but it sure looked that way when the news channels were covering Katrina's aftermath, because everybody with 2 brain cells and a way knew to get the hell out of that soup-bowl when a Category 5 is bearing down on it. Who was left behind? Everybody that depended on someone, such as a governing force, to help them. If these people hadn't foolishly bought that same old sales pitch, they might've had a people in position to act promptly to bus them to saftey. Too bad for them, incompetence was at the wheel. Then, after the storm, you had a murder count, which rose as the water receded. It was a field day for criminals. Most all the good ethical folks were gone, responsibly. Who was left behind? The opposite. Of course not all these people were bad. Some good folks in a bad situation, and some bad folks that turned a bad situation worse. Just like a number of cities that have bought into, and depended on, that same ole sales pitch.

Excellent response! I live in Vegas and after Katrina they moved a bunch of the Katrina victims here and wow, our neighborhoods have gone down hill ever since. The government has made a major mistake with welfare, in that instead of making people move into government housing like in the old days they simply give them a set amount of housing money each month and let them move anywhere where someone will accept Section 8. Unfortunately, I own a condo that I rent out in what used to be a very nice and safe neighborhood, well not anymore. Section 8 renters have flooded the area and my condo association as well. I even had a lady try to rent mine that had section 8. She said she got $980 per month and that it was going to go up in Oct to about $1010 I believe. Anyway, she said it is use or lose, they only provide the amount required for the rent no greater than the maximum, thus, she told me I could just take the whole amount since she would lose it if not using it. I was asking $950 and she was offering roughly $1000. I said no of course due to my morals and also because I don't trust a person on Section 8 to take good care of my place, but of course there are some that would be fine I'm sure. Anyway, the government thinks that by allowing these poor families to move into nicer areas they themselves will become better people because of their surroundings. Well, the opposite is the reality. They move in and they ruin the area by living the same way they do in the projects. Kids running around all hours of the nights, graffiti tagging mailboxes and signs, groups of thug kids waling around like gangs, robberies go up, crimes of all sorts, etc. It is pathetic. Now I am strongly considering foreclosing on that property. The value has gone down from $200k to around $60k. That is a huger depreciation. And now it is all Section 8 almost in my association. Thank goodness I don't live there. I had other friends move out of the area because of this. The other day a cop was murdered off duty in his house right down the street from there. He had his garage door opened and 5 teenagers went in to rob him and shot and killed him. He was a 30 year old cop with a wife and baby that was a few months old.

A quote from Ben Franklin:

“I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.” – Ben Franklin

Glenn Beck makes the point:

“Make people comfortable in poverty and then tell them that they’ll never get out and you are going to be the king of the world.

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Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

pfft..."Chicago"..."LA Cali"..lol. your funny. its a good thing they couldnt count the murders that go unreported!!! detroit/flint would be over the top!! they find bodys all the time up here...dead people just laying around and shyt....

LOL..OMG! You probably have to step over dead bodies on your way to school.

[Lizard King]

Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

Interesting, I have been to St. Louis several times because my wife's family if from there and I never noticed and this is coming from someone who grew up in Brooklyn. Then again, her family is loaded and probably only shows me the nice parts, LOL

[BigDawg]

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LOL we aren't really dangerous but it was comical when 5 peole turned up dead in the same basic area by the river where a lot of people party and there have been a lot of transients living there in tents. 5 people all found dead in the same area in about two months time and the police labeled them all death by natural causes. all people under 50, some found floating in the river, some face down by the waters edge. not saying there was a serial killer on the loose, but cmon how about an autopsy cuz how many people 25-45 die pf natural causes when there is probably lots of chemicals floating in their systems or maybe that blood seeping from his scalp wound wasn't really caused by a rock in the river. LOL

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Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

I figure New Orleans would have been higher on the list. What gets me is we have the "Killing Fields" right where I live on I-45 between Galveston and Houston and it didn't even make the list. Here read this and tell me what you think:::::


The I-45 Victims

Since 1971 numerous known cases of kidnapping, sexual assault and murder have happen along Interstate 45 in Texas. Some of the victims have disappeared never to be see again, some are skeletons by the time they are discovered, very few are found somewhat in tact. Most often the victims have been dumped in fields, parks and bodies of water. Because of the lack of communication between the jurisdictions and the inconclusive links of the cases involved. Media reports scarce most likely because authorities have been rather covert concerning details. This decades long murder spree of serial killers along I-45 is as perplexing as it is frighting.


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1970's Victims

Colette Wilson - Age 13, Caucasian. She was dopped off by Band Leader at a bus stop in Alvin on June 17, 1971. She disappeared, then her nude body was found close to I-10 and highway 6. Near Addicks Reservoir in west Houston, some 35 to 40 miles from where last seen 5 months earlier. She had been killed by a gunshot to head and her band instrument was never located. The remains of Colette Willson were found within 35 yards from where the body of 19 year old Gloria Gonzales was later discovered

Brenda Jones - Age 14, brunette. Disappeared while walking to Galveston hospital, close to I-45 to visit an aunt on July 1, 1971. Her body was found the next day floating in nearby Galveston Bay, close to the Seawolf Parkway and near I-45. She had a slip crammed in her mouth and had died of a head wound.

Gloria Gonzales - Age19, brunette. She disappeared on October 28, 1971 near her home in Houston. Her body was found near Addick's Reservoir in west Houston, within 35 yards from where the body of Colette Wilson had been discovered months earlier. She died from blunt force trauma to the head.

Alison Craven - Age 12, Caucasian. Her mother returned home from after running errands for 1 hour on Novermber 9th 1971. Her daughter was missing from their apartment near I-45. Police later found partial remains in a nearby field, two hands along with bones from an arm and some teeth. On Feb 25, 1972 the rest of her skeleton was found in a Pearland field, also near I-45 and 5 to10 miles from where she was last seen.

Debbie Ackerman - Age 15, Caucasian, brunette. Ball High School students Debbie Ackerman and Maria Johnson both from Galveston, they went to shop for gifts at a Galveston mall. Both disappeared on November 11, 1971 and they were found dead two days later. 10 miles north of where they disappeared, close to I-45 and Highway 3. They were in Turner's Bayou in Texas City where fishermen saw them floating, both girls were shot twice before being dumped in the water. Their hands and feet bound and both were only partially clothed.

Maria Johnson - Age 15, Caucasian, brunette. Ball High School students Debbie Ackerman and Maria Johnson both from Galveston, they went to shop for gifts at a Galveston mall. Both disappeared on November 11, 1971 and they were found dead two days later. 10 miles north of where they disappeared, close to I-45 and Highway 3. Their bodies were in Turner's Bayou in Texas City where fishermen saw them floating, both girls were shot twice before being dumped in the water. Their hands and feet bound and both were only partially clothed.

Kimberly Pitchford - Age 16, Caucasian. Last seen at a driving school in Pasadena near I-45 on January 3, 1973. She was supposed to call home for ride but the call never came. Her strangled cadaver was found two days later in a ditch near Angleton near the 288 highway, about 30 miles south of where she was last seen. Her uncle Ray Pitchford, said a possible serial killer was known to have attended the school about the same time. However, nothing has ever come of his statement and the authorities still deem the case unsolved.

Georgia Geer - Age 14, Caucasian, brunette. Brooks Bracewell and Georgia Geer had skipped school on September 6, 1974. Both disappeared from a convenience store in Dickinson, close to I-45. Both had been beaten to death and found were found in an Alvin Swamp.

Brooks Bracewell - Age 12, Caucasian, brunette. Brooks Bracewell and Georgia Geer had skipped school on September 6, 1974. Both disappeared from a convenience store in Dickinson, close to I-45. Both had been beaten to death and found were found in an Alvin Swamp.

(Possible 1970's I-45 Link)

Karen Pretty - Age 28, Caucasian, dark hair. Robert Pretty came home in north Houston from his job on May 10, 1978. He found breakfast half eaten on the table and heard water dripping in the front bathroom. He found the bodies of his sons, Scott 7 and Mark 5 in the bathtub, he pulled them from the water. His wife was in the master bathroom, she had been strangled with a phone cord. Her hands and feet were bound with phone cord and she was submerged under water in the bathtub. She was still wearing her floral bathrobe and had not been sexually assaulted. The children were still in their pajamas and they were not sexually molested either. Scott was strangled with the bare hands of the assailant and drowned face first into the tub of water. Mark was strangled and drowned in the same fashion as his brother but he had also been beaten. The house had not been robbed and only one drawer was opened according to the police. Their car a 1978 Mercury Marquis was found in an unassigned parking spot at an apartment at 198 Goodson Drive. The case is remains unsolved and the perp(s) motive(s) unknown.


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1980's Victims

Unknown Doe - Age about 14 to17, Caucasian, brunette. Dumped on I-45 about five miles north of Huntsville on November 1, 1980. She was nude, had been strangled with pantyhose and had human bites on her body. Described as 5'4" tall, 110 pounds. A truckdriver found her body.

Tamara Ellen McCurry - Age 22, Caucasian, brunette, brown eyes. Disappeared in Galveston after seen getting into an orange or yellow van on July 1, 1982.

Heidi Villerial Fye - Age 23, Caucasian, brunette. First victim found in the "Killing Fields" case, for more information push HERE.

Sandra Ramber - Age 14, Caucasian, brunette, brown eyes. Disappeared on October 26, 1983 form her house in Santa Fe, Texas. A small town close to League City and Friendswood. The case has been determined to be foul play and she is still a missing person. Her father reported her missing after he found the doors unlocked. Biscuits were cooking in the kitchen, her new coat and her purse were where she left them. She had just completed modeling school and wanted to becoming a model.

Jane Doe - Age ?, Caucasian, brunette. Second victim found in the "Killing Fields" case, for more information push HERE.

Laura Lynn Miller - Age 16, Caucasian, brunette. Third victim found in the "Killing Fields" case, for more information push HERE.

Headless Woman - Age ?. April, 1986 police recover a headless body from a garbage bag in a state park in Galveston, the body remains unidentified.

Shelley Kathleen Sikes - Age 19, Caucasian, brunette, brown eyes. The University of Texas student who was home for the summer, was last seen just before midnight May 24, 1986. She left her summer job at Gaido's restaurant for her Texas City home but never made it. Her car was found on I-45's northbound feeder road, just north of the Causeway. In the deep mud just north of the Santa Fe overpass, the car was blood spattered and the driver's window smashed. Her body was never recovered, but Bayview resident John Robert King and El Lago resident Gerald Peter Zwarst later were convicted of aggravated kidnapping, the most severe charge prosecutors could pursue without a body, in the case.

Laurie Lee Tremblay - Age15. One of Anthony Allen Shore's strangulation victims, killed September 26, 1986. She was last seen alive walking from her family's apartment to the bus stop, her body was later found behind a restaurant. Shore once reportedly lived in League City, the Galveston city where the infamous "Killing Fields" are located. Where 4 other victims have were discovered between 1983 and 1991.

Michelle Doherty Thomas - Age 17, Caucasian, brunette. Still missing, she was last seen leaving her Alta Loma home to meet friends on October 5, 1985.

Erica Ann Garcia - Age 14, Hispanic, brunette. June 7, 1987 she disappeared from teen club in Houston. Found behind nearby vacant building, she had been strangled to death

Suzanne Rene Richerson - Age 22, Caucasian, brunette. Worked as a night clerk at Casa Del Mar Condominiums in Galveston, Texas where she was last seen on October 7, 1988 at approximately 6:00 a.m. Another employee was sleeping in the room above Richerson's office and awoke to a scream, then a car door slam from the parking lot and another scream before the car drove away. The last people to see her were the security guards who got off duty at 6 a.m. She left behind her purse, school books and car. One of her shoes was found in the parking lot but she is still missing. On July 31, 2002, suspect Gabriel Soto age 39 died from an apparent from an overdose of drugs. Soto was never charged in this case but investigators said they believed he played a role in Richerson's disappearance.

Another Jane Doe - Age between 14-19, brunette. Discovered in a wooded area on the east side of Houston on September 19, 1989. Described as between 5'2" and 5'5" and between 110 and 130 lbs. Cause of death was a gunshot wound to the head and estimated time of death 1 to 3 months.


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1990's Victims

Janet Doe - Age ?, Caucasian, brunette. Forth victim found in the "Killing Fields" case, for more information push HERE.

Maria Del Carmen Estrada - Age 21, Hispanic, brunette.One of Anthony Allen Shore's strangulation victims, killed in April 1992. Estrada was last seen when she left her home to walk to work. Her body was found hours later in the drive through lane of a Dairy Queen restaurant. Shore once reportedly lived in League City, the Galveston city where the infamous "Killing Fields" are located. Where 4 other victims have were discovered between 1983 and 1991.

Trellis Sykes - Age 16 Abducted on way to school in Houston on May 13, 1994. Found later that same day in a field murdered.

Diana Rebollar - Age 9, brunette. One of Anthony Allen Shore's strangulation victims, killed August 7, 1994. Her mother had sent her to a near by convenience store to buy sugar. Diana's body was found behind a vacant building at 1440 North Loop West. She had been raped, beaten and strangled. Shore once reportedly lived in League City, the Galveston city where the infamous "Killing Fields" are located. Where 4 other victims have were discovered between 1983 and 1991.

Dana Sanchez - Age 16, Hispanic, brunette. One of Anthony Allen Shore's strangulation victims, killed in July 6, 1995. She was last seen talking to her boyfriend on a pay phone at West Cavalcade Street. She told him she planned to hitchhike to his home but never arrived. Her body was found in North View Park on July 14. She had been raped, beaten and strangled. Shore once reportedly lived in League City, the Galveston city where the infamous "Killing Fields" are located. Where 4 other victims have were discovered between 1983 and 1991.

Lynette Bibbs - Age 14 Disappeared with friend Tamara Fisher from teen club in Houston on February 1, 1996. Left dumped on side of rural road near Cleveland, Texas, two days later. Partially clothed and shot twice in back of head and once in the thigh.

Tamara Fisher - Age 15 Last seen with friend Lynette Bibbs at Houston teen club on February 1, 1996. Left dumped on side of rural raod near Cleveland, Texas. Fully clothed and murdered by gunshot wound to the head.

Krystal Jean Baker - Age 13, Caucasian, blonde, dark eyes. Disappeared on March 5, 1996 from Convenience Store in Texas City where she used the phone. In hopes for a ride to a friends house in Bayou Vista, which is a short distance from there. Her body was found a few hours later under the I-10 Bridge over the Trinity River in Chambers County. She had been strangled, beaten, sexually assaulted and killed by ligature strangulation. Her face was badly beaten. Closest highway from where she was last seen is I-45, Hwy 3 and Hwy 146 which goes along Bay toward where body was found miles away. Marilyn Monroe, Norma Jean Baker was Krystal's great aunt.

Teen Girl (Abducted) - Age 13. March 1996 a man who abducted her at gunpoint as she was walking home from a shopping center. She leaped out of his truck in 200 block of East Fairmont in La Porte, Texas. A police officer just happen to drive by the truck witnessed the girl falling out of the truck. The pickup truck is a late mode Ford Ranger, green with suspect as 35-45, 6 ft or 6'2", with graying black hair and beard. The truck was never seen before or after this incident.

Laura Kate Smither - Age 12, Caucasian, brunette. The aspiring ballerina disappeared April 3, 1997 while jogging near her home in Friendswood, Texas near I-45. Seventeen days later her body was found at the edge of a retention pond in Pasadena near I-45. She was nude except for one sock and a ring, her head was decapitated. A dark colored pickup was observed in same area as where last seen and composite sketch of person in truck. When Smither's body was found in the Pasadena retention pond, investigators took notice of some obvious similarities between her abduction and death and that of 9 year old Amber Hagerman in Arlington, Texas 3 months earlier. Both girls' bodies were dumped in waterways, nude except for their socks. It could not be conclusively determined if the two cases are related or not. However, sex offender William Lewis Reece is the prime suspect in Laura Smither and Jessica Cain deaths but did he do it? Information, including allegations of evidence tampering, surfaced. The autopsy report indicated that African American hairs found on the girl's body were contaminants and that did not come from the crime scene. Note the Amber Hagerman death, then also note the abduction of Sandra Sapaugh and the disappearance of Jessica Cain. Plus for more infomation click HERE.

Sandra Sapaugh (Abducted) - Dark complexion, brunette. She was fixing a flat on NASA Road 1 in Webster, across I-45 from Friendswood on May 16, 1997. When she says William Lewis Reece was the man who kidnapped her by pulling a knife on her and forced her into his truck. He ordered her to undress but she opened the passenger door and jumped out of the fast moving truck. Reece was charged with aggravated kidnapping of Sapaugh. Reece also is a suspect in the murder of Laura Smither and the disappearance of Jessica Cain.

Jessica Lee Cain - Age 17, Caucasian, brunette. Still missing after leaving friends at a Bennigan's restaurant in Webster about 2 a.m. on August 17, 1997. Two hours later her truck was found along I-45 in La Marque, there was no signs of struggle and her truck was operational. Witnesses saw her walking from her parked truck towards a red Isuzu Amigo that was stopped behind her truck.

Tina Flood - Age 23, Caucasian, blonde. November 29, 1998 a police officer pulled over Jonathan David Drew and found Flood beaten and barely alive in his front passenger seat. A waitress, she had befriended Drew at a night club. She died days later and he was convicted for her death. Drew is also suspected of several sexual assaults and it is speculated he could be responsible for the slaying of Jessica Lee Cain. A search of his former home in League City, where his parents still lived produced a vial containing several human teeth. League City is the Galveston city where the infamous "Killing Fields" are located. Where 4 other victims have were discovered between 1983 and 1991. Though his age would not match the time line of the "Killing Fields" murders but he did rape other women in the area.

Wanda May Pitts - Age 18, Caucasian, blonde. January 17, 1999 was at work the lobby desk at the Lodge Motel in Shenandoah. A job she had for about two months and she did not have a car. William Ray Mathews a drifter abducted her, took her to one of the motel rooms where he sexually assaulted her before strangling her to death. He couldn't recall where he had put her body but about a year later her remains where found off an abandon gated drive way.

Tracy Vickery (Abducted) - Caucasian, brunette. Weeks after Wanda May Pitts had vanished, Mathews attempted to abduct Vickery from the office where she sold mobile homes. The Country Time Mobile Homes just happened to located on the other side of I-45 from the Lodge Motel. He came in with a briefcase, sat down and wrote her a note. She was to do what he said because he had a gun and would kill her if she did not. He forced Vickery into his truck, then he drove off down I-45 with her but she leap from his moving truck. He tried to pull her back in by her hair but he couldn't, she got away and ran to the Gulf Cost Trades Center to save herself.

(Possible 1990's I-45 Link)

Amber Hagerman - Age 9, Caucasian, brunette, brown eyes. The Amber Alert is named after Amber Hagerman, this national program is dedicated to all children nationwide who’ve been abducted. On January 1996, she was riding her bicycle in a parking lot near her home. A neighbor heard her scream, then saw a man pull her off her bike, throw her into the front seat of his dark pickup truck and drive away at a high speed. January 17, 1996 Amber’s body was found in a drainage ditch located by apartments which are located on Green Oaks Blvd a short distance west of Highway 360 in Arlington, Texas. She had been sexually assaulted and her throat had been cut multiple times with a knife. Like in the case of Laura Smither, both girls were nude except for socks. If the two cases are related cannot be conclusively determined. Though the prime suspect in Smither's death is William Lewis Reece, a known sex offender. For more infomation click HERE.


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2000's Victims

Tot Tran Harriman - Age 57, Asian, black streaked with gray, brown eyes. Height: 4ft., 11in.Weight: 130. Disappeared July 12, 2001 from: League City, Texas. Left League City to drive to Corpus Christy, TX. but has not been seen since. She departed at approximately 5:00 AM on July 12, 2001 from her son's residence said goodbye to her son and drove away in her 1995 rose quartz Lincoln Continental, with Florida rear license plate. A Navy Seal emblem where the front plate is normally affixed. Circumstances of this case indicate that foul play is possible.

Sara Trusty - Age 23, Caucasian, blonde. Last seen in Algoa near her church riding her bicycle around 11 PM on July 12, 2002. The bike was found in foyer of church the next day but she was gone. Her body was discovered on July 28, 2002 in a dike in Texas City.

Laura Ayala - Age 13, Hispanic, brunette. Missing since March 10, 2002 when she went to a near by convenience store to pick up a news paper for a school project. Walter Alexander Sorto, Edgardo Rafael Cubas and Eduardo Navarro have not been chaged with her death. However, her DNA was discovered in a SUV owned by Cubas' father.

Maria Isabel Solis - Age 16, Hispanic, brunette. She was last seen getting off of city bus near her school, students and nearby motel manager heard screams. Missing until a body was recovered in a wooded area near Sugar Land, Texas, on August 13, 2003. The body was discovered near a closed U.S. 59 turnaround at the Brazos River, about 20 miles southwest of Houston.Due to forensic laboratory backlogs she remained unidentified until February 9, 2005.

Teen Girl (Terrorized) - July 29, 2004 a northwest Houston teen girl stranded on a southwest Houston freeway was stranded with a flat tire on the West Loop near Interstate 10. A man she believed was a tow-truck driver offered to help, he changed her tire and then tried to sexually assault her. The girl said she managed to escape by stabbing the man in the torso and shoulder with a pocketknife. The attacker has a tall, bald, clean-shaven man with a tattoo of a spider web on his left shoulder. He was driving a faded black, older model Chevrolet pickup with "Super Tow" painted in white letters on the side.

Natasha Nicole Solidum - Age 30, Caucasian, brunette, 5-foot-5, weighing about 135 pounds. On February 23, 2006 a brother and sister were walking their dog on the beach near the Flagship Hotel in the 2400 block of Seawall Boulevard shortly after 11 a.m. A woman began shouting at them about something floating in the surf and at first one of them thought it was a mannequin. The woman’s body was clad in black sweatpants, light-blue Asics running shoes with white ankle socks, a red, hooded sweatshirt and she still had her sunglasses on. She carried no identification but her body bore a distinct mark, a tattoo of a ring of flowers around her navel. Her body had probably only been in the water for about an hour because it was still warm and rigor mortis had not set in. An autopsy showed that a single gunshot wound to the chest. Investigators combed the area near 24th Street and Seawall with special metal detectors to try to find evidence. Solidum, 30, was an elementary school teacher in the Alief Independent School District. The Flagship Hotel jets out over the surf, close to where I-45 ends on Galveston Island.

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Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

It's karma, there's 45 names on your list, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm up in Dallas, you would think thru the years would have heard more. We here of some highway stuff every now and then, yet, that is pretty phenomenal.

[deepsouth]

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yep- we're famous down here- in a bad way unfortunately

[llllern]

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we got 5th and 4th locked up!! and i live right in between both of them, lol yeaaaaa!!

lol @ that Michigan lol



but cali has a few as well

[horsepwr]

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I believe this list is for 2009 only. New Orleans has had a huge lesson in TLC, giving, providing, making things happen for yourself, the great feeling of nicer things, and being nice since Katrina. Especially over the last couple years.

Have you seen the nice little island-cottage style homes the people of New Orleans are getting built by the government, government groups, habit for humanity, etc? The ones that deceided to stay get their old shotgun shacks scraped, and in it's place, a brand new little house. They look like little single story Sea Side homes. Sea Side is where they filmed "The Truman Show" with Jim Carey. Remember those quaint little homes in that neighborhood. That was no set. SeaSide, FL is just 5-10 miutes west of Panama City Beach. They even added the little pastel trim in N.O. I mapped the projects and lower end of Biloxi, MS. They got the same houses built for them. It's amazing how much wear can be put on a home in just a couple years. What was interesting, if that's the word for it, was watching these people enjyoying their happy little new homes on their stylish new porch, then go a couple block towards the bay, and watching a husband and wife team up to fix their once nice, well kept home of about 2500sq/ft. with a decent size yard. They were easily 65-into their 70s just working away to get their home back to living condition. The elderly couple that comes to mind was laying new flooring the day I mapped that power lines. Themselves. They couldn't afford help. They already had pulled the old carpet out, and had a trailor full of wreckage. The man and his wife...no help. They don't need help. They were retired property owners that worked for what they had, and so I guess, the insurance companies, and government knew they couldn't last long paying to live elsewhere. so they took the bull by the horns themselves. Not 1 soul lent a helping hand to that old couple. Wish I could've dropped my GPS gear and went to it with them. They weren't the least bit cynical either. Just moving forward.
You'd love to hear what some of the people thought I was showing up for over there. It was always the ones that were lounging about in that nice new little house built for them. Not all of them, but more than I can count wondered if I was there to fix this, or put that back up for them. "nope. sorry. I'm not that guy." I'm sure they sat right there until whoever showed up to do more for 'em.
If you live in or around those parts. Take a drive into the nicer neighborhoods, and take a drive into the parts where they built these little homes for folks.(government housing will be nearby for this part) Take a look at who got brand new power-poles and equipment and whose shyt's all leaning and weathered. Those weathered poles are 20, mostly 30-40yrs old.

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I believe this list is for 2009 only. New Orleans has had a huge lesson in TLC, giving, providing, making things happen for yourself, the great feeling of nicer things, and being nice since Katrina. Especially over the last couple years.

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I'm sure there are plenty of good, honest, hardworking people there as opposed to the lazy scum. However, I don't want a single damn dime of my tax dollars going there way regardless. In times of need charities will be formed and the good Americans who care will help, but when you expect us as taxpayers to help I lose all interest. I have never seen a city complain as much as that one. Once again, I understand there are some exceptional people down there that expect nothing, but the majority are worthless. I went to N.O. one time several years ago and was disgusted, and that was before Katrina. My gf of the time lived in Baton Rouge and could not stand N.O. either. I live in Vegas, so perhaps not the nicest city either, but night and day over that shythole. Of course, I already mentioned earlier that we got a lot of the Katrina victims. The government moved them here and I imagine on our dime. Well, they are ruining our city.

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Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

yeah Js. I have friends in Houston that got a pretty good load of them immediately. Houston was real grateful for being the dumping ground for the New Orleans folks they got also. I remember seeing footage of the immediate crime surge in Houston. The report on what was bought with those $2000 pre-paid credit cards would've almost been amusing to read, until you remember that's your tax dollars they're throwing down. Responsible? uhhh...that's a negative. But, who's to blame? You can right a book about who is to blame. But I'd rather not. Because it doesn't take a book, or even argument. In a perfect world, every single human being is responsible for their own actions. But then again, this isn't a perfect world. We've coddled the poor misguided, less fortunate folks. They've been led to believe they deserve special attention.

I can't get the video clip of a young boy, maybe 7-8yrs old, looking in the camera yelling, "we stuck out here! Where's our water? where's our food at?" Instead of looking at his guardians for support. This young boy had already learned, been taught, to wait on his handouts. And, they arrived.

[JsJs24]

Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

yeah Js. I have friends in Houston that got a pretty good load of them immediately. Houston was real grateful for being the dumping ground for the New Orleans folks they got also. I remember seeing footage of the immediate crime surge in Houston. The report on what was bought with those $2000 pre-paid credit cards would've almost been amusing to read, until you remember that's your tax dollars they're throwing down. Responsible? uhhh...that's a negative. But, who's to blame? You can right a book about who is to blame. But I'd rather not. Because it doesn't take a book, or even argument. In a perfect world, every single human being is responsible for their own actions. But then again, this isn't a perfect world. We've coddled the poor misguided, less fortunate folks. They've been led to believe they deserve special attention.

I can't get the video clip of a young boy, maybe 7-8yrs old, looking in the camera yelling, "we stuck out here! Where's our water? where's our food at?" Instead of looking at his guardians for support. This young boy had already learned, been taught, to wait on his handouts. And, they arrived.

That is what happens with welfare, you make people reliable on government support and there is no incentive to get off of it. I understand there are honest hardworking Americans who need the support and use it temporarily until they get back on their feet and land a better job. I don't have a problem with those people, and my heart goes out to those in need who want to do better. However, the current system needs fixed. Here is what I propose to fix it:

Welfare should be a 3 year program. The first year you get 100% benefits based on the number of people in your family (kids and spouse). The amount does not go up if you have another child. Year two your benefits decrease to 50%, year three benefits decrease to 25%, and after the third year you're off. This would encourage you to get a job and start preparing to get off of government assistance. This probably sounds extreme to some but it is the only way to encourage those using welfare to get off their rears and look for a job.

[deepsouth]

Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

yeah Js. I have friends in Houston that got a pretty good load of them immediately. Houston was real grateful for being the dumping ground for the New Orleans folks they got also. I remember seeing footage of the immediate crime surge in Houston. The report on what was bought with those $2000 pre-paid credit cards would've almost been amusing to read, until you remember that's your tax dollars they're throwing down. Responsible? uhhh...that's a negative. But, who's to blame? You can right a book about who is to blame. But I'd rather not. Because it doesn't take a book, or even argument. In a perfect world, every single human being is responsible for their own actions. But then again, this isn't a perfect world. We've coddled the poor misguided, less fortunate folks. They've been led to believe they deserve special attention.

I can't get the video clip of a young boy, maybe 7-8yrs old, looking in the camera yelling, "we stuck out here! Where's our water? where's our food at?" Instead of looking at his guardians for support. This young boy had already learned, been taught, to wait on his handouts. And, they arrived.

Most are still here- please come take them back ,we don't want them anymore.

[daved150]

Re: America's most "dangerous" cities.

its funny...we got alot of then up here!!!! i thought they were just glutens for punishment