I need to hear from the left

[horsepwr]

Y'all are being too quiet lately.
Here's what I want to know. You said the Bush administration went into Afghanistan to run a gas line for Cheney and Haliburton. That was an inarguable fact to so many of you.

Since that was the reason for the fight in Afghanistan under Bush, my question now is; Why is Obama and this administration sending troops into Afghanistan?

[FUZO]

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Because this president isnt a president he's a comunity organizer and a puppet on a string.He doesnt know how to run a lemonade stand

[horsepwr]

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Don't get wrong. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do. I never thought Bush was wrong in taking grip over the Taliban there. But I believe that's why our troops were there in the first place. I want to hear from those that believe we stormed in there for Haliburton. Because Obama damn sure has no ties with Cheney and Haliburton. So what's the reasoning for Obama sending troops into Afghanistan?

[Klash]

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Obama fooled so many people; I hope they learned something.

[trip]

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i never believed we went in there for a pipeline, imho, bush was correct to go there, how he did it i had a problem

the afgan thing goes back 20 years, watch charlie wilson's war, we funded the muhajadeen with money and guns to defeat the russians, so for 7 years a large black market in guns and weapons was built, it was a large part of there economy

when the russians pulled out, so did we 100% completely, and that is when taliban took over, they did it because they were armed to the teeth and no one too stop them

we will probably be there for 7-10 more years, think of it like a gang problem, here in the states we have them, yet, they do not rule, because people grow out of it, want more from life and value life more

the great fear is northern afgan and northern pakistan gaining momentum, right now they have none, a stand-off, pakistan is still in flux and if they gained momentum in the north the fear is more terrorism in pakistan and a destruction of the government, there are like 180 million pakistans, so the number is so large, if things went bad, it would get really bad, and the numbers they could recruit would be staggering

right now, 6 million children are going to school as opposed too 250k before 9-11, this is a generational shift type of thing, when you combine it with the history of afganistan it is a tough road, yet, imho, there really is no going back

[horsepwr]

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yes trip, I realize everything between Russia and the Afghans, and what ultimately resulted from that conflict, our role, etc...

I didn't think I remebered you ever mentioning anything about the Haliburton pipeline. I guess we're missing those members now-days, or not.

Man, I wish people would stick around to keep me informed on such serious issues. The truth comes out 99% of-the-time...over time.

[horsepwr]

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...and I agree with you trip, that it will indeed take at least a generation. People's core beliefs don't change over night.

[pigmeat]

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i believe we are in Iraq for the gain of Cheneys/Bush croneys, but afgahn is a diff story...i think we went there for the right reason, only did it wrong. They should have sent the surge of troops there the size of the one we sent to Iraq, and been done with them

[horsepwr]

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I've really thought about the whole petro thing, and I, personally, just do not see that in President Bush's motive for Iraq. I believe he truly wanted to free the Iraqis from Saddam's suppression while taking out terrorist militia groups, etc... I do think that the Gulf War's conclusion, and the personal issue his family had with Saddam, left Bush Jr with a feeling of unfinished business that he felt not only very strongly about, but that in his mind, it was the absolute morally correct thing to do. and it is a success. The people of Iraq are indeed liberated. And I believe whole-heartedly that President Bush had, not only our best interest and safety in mind, but the Iraqi people's as well.jmo