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    Ive said from the start that this wouldnt ever get passed but now I have mo doubts. If this does get passed it would mean the end of our health care and our country. hawiaa tried it and failed. romney put it in play in massachusets and in the 3 years its been there it has quadrupled in cost and people arent getting there health care like they did before. the emergencys rooms are over crowded and the docs are so busy. look it up for your selves.The best thing that can happen is that if it does get passed that the republicans take back control and dont let anything else get passed. But there are people out there that say it still wont get passed and i;m very hopeful.




    The health-reform debate on Capitol Hill is skipping over the key issue: "Universal insurance" means less care for people who have coverage now -- especially the elderly.

    And the "compromises" now under way only make the problem worse.

    Here's a point that's no surprise except to the "reformers": People with insurance use more health care.



    President Obama seeks to cover 50 million new people. Where are the extra doctors, nurses and so on going to come from? Neither the administration nor anyone on the Hill has proposed anything to add to the supply of medical services even as they plan vastly to increase the demand.

    The politicians are playing a Washington game -- compromising on false or tangential issues while failing to address the central one.

    It doesn't matter if you reduce or eliminate the mandate for employers to provide coverage, if you're still insuring more people without adding medical personnel and other resources. Same story for whether you replace the "public option" government-run plan with government-run "co-ops."

    More, all the bills come up with cash to cover their huge costs by ordering cuts in Medicare -- cuts that Congress could reverse only by affirmative majority votes. Basically, the government will be paying doctors and providers even less to treat the elderly -- at a time when countless doctors are starting to refuse new Medicare patients.

    More demand; no added supply; Medicare cuts: It all adds up to rationing -- lower-quality medical care for most Americans, especially for the elderly.

    A doctor in Massachusetts -- where an Obama-style plan is already in place -- recently told us that she now has to read 60 mammograms a day in the time she once spent on 45. "It keeps me up at night," she told us, "that I might make a mistake, I am so rushed."

    For the elderly, it means less care, period. A federal health board will sit in judgment of medical procedures and protocols and impose guidelines on all providers for when to withhold certain kinds of care.

    For example, the drug Avastin is widely used in America to treat advanced colon cancer. But it costs $50,000 a year -- so Canada's national-health system doesn't permit its use. As a result, 41 percent of colon-cancer patients in Canada die each year, as opposed to 32 percent in the United States. (Canada's average eight-month wait for colonoscopies, another result of national-health rationing, also contributes to the problem.)

    Members of Congress will be home through August to test public opinion. It's up to us to give them an earful.

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    Re: Gov run health care

    The president and his 60 majority will pass something. It will also lead to the destruction of the party majority for dems in the 2012 elections. Thank goodness when that happens. However, you are correct. We will be done in for as a country. Trust me on this, the Republicans don't give a s**t either. They all want more power but dems are faster at seeking it. Repubs just say what they think we want to hear. They are all cowards. Every republican senator is a coward.
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      Re: Gov run health care

      Originally posted by JsJs24 View Post
      The president and his 60 majority will pass something. It will also lead to the destruction of the party majority for dems in the 2012 elections. Thank goodness when that happens. However, you are correct. We will be done in for as a country. Trust me on this, the Republicans don't give a s**t either. They all want more power but dems are faster at seeking it. Repubs just say what they think we want to hear. They are all cowards. Every republican senator is a coward.


      JSJS HOW CAN YOU SAY EVERY REP SENATOR IS A COWARD I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. THERE ARE ALOT OF REP SENATORS FIGHTING THERE ASS OFF TO DO THE RIGHT THING. SINCE THEY SCREWED UP YEARS AGO THEY WILL NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN.
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