So Iran fires a missle

[FUZO]

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I'm dead serious about newt running.even stats prove that palin helped mccain get more votes and she is a true right wing conservative and on top of the republican party right now.as much as I like bobby jindahl he isnt the answer and palenta and romney I just dont see them winning the top ticket. By no means is ron paul or the other guy the answer. A serious conservative republican is what is needed to be in the white house in 4 years.some one told me awhile back cant remember who but said blowjama will get relected,Theres no way in hell the people will realect him again even with the media on his side. but in 4 years the media will turn.The republicans are just going to sit back right now and just watch this scum destroy himself and when we get back the majority everything will work in place. Even if we dont but its showing right now that theres republicans leading to get more seats back in 2010. I know its early right now but the way the liberals and dems are running things and especialy this bit-ch pelosi I have faith everything will fall into place. I would love to see blowjama try to debate Newt

[daved150]

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I'm dead serious about newt running.even stats prove that palin helped mccain get more votes and she is a true right wing conservative and on top of the republican party right now.as much as I like bobby jindahl he isnt the answer and palenta and romney I just dont see them winning the top ticket. By no means is ron paul or the other guy the answer. A serious conservative republican is what is needed to be in the white house in 4 years.some one told me awhile back cant remember who but said blowjama will get relected,Theres no way in hell the people will realect him again even with the media on his side. but in 4 years the media will turn.The republicans are just going to sit back right now and just watch this scum destroy himself and when we get back the majority everything will work in place. Even if we dont but its showing right now that theres republicans leading to get more seats back in 2010. I know its early right now but the way the liberals and dems are running things and especialy this bit-ch pelosi I have faith everything will fall into place. I would love to see blowjama try to debate Newt

it was me and i'll bet you anything you want to bet (within reason). his people are WAY more determined than yours! you put a black canidate against a white canidate in the city of detroit and all of a sudden you got UNHEARD of recored turn out at the polls, and the white guy goes down in flames. i'm not being racist, it's a fact! you put ALL the minority's together and white man become's the minority. and...some white men like this guy too...dude...you got 8 years of this....sorry. i'm not saying to stop trying and roll over!! i'm just saying that i would see it as a 75% likelyhood, ATLEAST, that he'll be there for 2 terms!

[horsepwr]

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I want to see it play out. Just as records were set with black turn out, records are gonna be set with people that were too busy to get to the poles next time. The people that were too busy were not people that are happy to see Obama anywhere in front of them. They took it for granted. We'll just have to see.

As much as I'd love to see Ron Paul in the white house. I know that it would make a lier out of him. which I don't want to see, but that position has a tendancy to do that to people. Especially people as radical as Ron Paul or Barrack Obama. totally different sides of the spectrum of course, but you know what I mean.

[FUZO]

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it was me and i'll bet you anything you want to bet (within reason). his people are WAY more determined than yours! you put a black canidate against a white canidate in the city of detroit and all of a sudden you got UNHEARD of recored turn out at the polls, and the white guy goes down in flames. i'm not being racist, it's a fact! you put ALL the minority's together and white man become's the minority. and...some white men like this guy too...dude...you got 8 years of this....sorry. i'm not saying to stop trying and roll over!! i'm just saying that i would see it as a 75% likelyhood, ATLEAST, that he'll be there for 2 terms!

So then your saying no matter how bad america gets and everyone is out of jobs in 4 years and its so horrible that you think the people will elect him again.I say no way. People wanted change they didnt get it. All the hype was there and now its gone. you forget about the independants,you forget about the middle class that voted for this scum bag that is seeing he went back on all his promises.


In a nut shell black people will still vote for him just because he's black but america is in the toilet in 4 years

[Klash]

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I do think it is going to be difficult for Obama to get reelected. I think Bush ignited a passion in liberals, once Obama's 4 years come and go and noone has experience this "hope" he talked about many liberals who like Obama aren't going to have that same passion to go out and vote.

But Newt isn't the answer; he's been in D.C. forever, he's pretty far right when it comes to Christian values, he's had an affair but claims to have moral superiority to liberals (which makes him extra divisive). I think the guy is intelligent but he still advocates the premise of statism. He won't change our path, he'll just slow the pace and assault different rights.

[firstenrgy]

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I do think it is going to be difficult for Obama to get reelected. I think Bush ignited a passion in liberals, once Obama's 4 years come and go and noone has experience this "hope" he talked about many liberals who like Obama aren't going to have that same passion to go out and vote.

But Newt isn't the answer; he's been in D.C. forever, he's pretty far right when it comes to Christian values, he's had an affair but claims to have moral superiority to liberals (which makes him extra divisive). I think the guy is intelligent but he still advocates the premise of statism. He won't change our path, he'll just slow the pace and assault different rights.

I call bull s h i t!!! Name the time that newt had claimed "moral superiority"?
Wait fellow members, here's another occasion where we will get an avoidance of the question or a nonsensicle reponse. If not, the sound of crickets again.
The man was anything but a follow the party guy when he was minority whip and then as speaker of the house.

[Klash]

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I call bull s h i t!!! Name the time that newt had claimed "moral superiority"?
Wait fellow members, here's another occasion where we will get an avoidance of the question or a nonsensicle reponse. If not, the sound of crickets again.
The man was anything but a follow the party guy when he was minority whip and then as speaker of the house.

LOL, Bro you must have me TOTALLY confused with someone else. I don't make claims I can't back up and Newt doesn't have to "claim" moral superiority it is implied when he suggests that government force should be used to discriminate against homosexuality and abortion (the two issues off the top of my head) in which he backs up with Christian doctrine but then by his actions condones marriage infidelity. So he condones infidelity, even though he admits it was wrong but stands in opposition to gay marriage because it is wrong or is it because it's more liberal. What's your definition of a hypocrite? Maybe we should use government force to discriminate against those who have committed adultery and not let them marry again; even by his own standards that is a good enough reason.

I hold both sides accountable to their contradictory behavior - not just the side I disagree with the most. Now, I'll listen for the crickets or an attempt to confuse the matter or some lame a$$ justification as to why his contradicting behavior is acceptable.

[daved150]

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So then your saying no matter how bad america gets and everyone is out of jobs in 4 years and its so horrible that you think the people will elect him again.I say no way. People wanted change they didnt get it. All the hype was there and now its gone. you forget about the independants,you forget about the middle class that voted for this scum bag that is seeing he went back on all his promises.


In a nut shell black people will still vote for him just because he's black but america is in the toilet in 4 years

yep...EXACTLY what i'm saying...detroit once was the third largest city in the country bro..."they" voted people in that made sure that shyt got destroyed!! now its a dump...and yet they still vote in the idiot (until this election..)
yep...exactly what i'm saying..if things look tuff in the final moments, he'll lengthen welfare and include imogrants!!! POOF!!! he's in again!! you watch!!

[firstenrgy]

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You didn't answer the question and I knew you couldn't.
You couldn't back it up except with YOUR opinions. He never "claimed it" (your words) proposed bills to the house on moral superiority or ever verbally claimed he has "moral superiority to liberals". ALL supposition on your part. That makes it a claim you can't back up. Thank you for proving my point.

[FUZO]

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yep...EXACTLY what i'm saying...detroit once was the third largest city in the country bro..."they" voted people in that made sure that shyt got destroyed!! now its a dump...and yet they still vote in the idiot (until this election..)
yep...exactly what i'm saying..if things look tuff in the final moments, he'll lengthen welfare and include imogrants!!! POOF!!! he's in again!! you watch!!

Just because it happens like that in detroit does not mean it will happen in other states.There wont be any money left to increase welfare you forget that. we are already broke as it is where do you think he will get money from.And he ran with the change attitude and nothing changed only for the worse.By now the african american community can already see through his bull shit.Thers no way in hell when america is even worse in 4 yrs will the people elect him again dave. no friggin way. the drudge repoprt already said we are broke,wheres the magic money going to appear from. china is going to cut us off soon.history shall repeat itself. carter was just like blojama but blojama is worse and they voted carters ass out because the people saw how bad things were.

[horsepwr]

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yeah, it may happen in a city, where the "good people", the "money" can just move the fuk out of and let that city go to hell in a hand-bag. But the people aren't just gonna give America to shyt, and let shyt take care of itself by taking over.

I'm sorry for what's happening to Detroit, but I think it's a wonderful blueprint. Let the cities, and even states that don't know any better, live in and become what they choose. I'd love it on a state to state level. No Federal funding. purge the system. Sorta like a tsunami where a tsunami is needed, or a Cat 5 hurricane right where a Cat 5 can wash away the shyt.

Which brings me to another subject, still linked to the big picture. The federal funding should be cut off because I just saw, at the beginning of this year how thankful and how those in Biloxi take their handouts. It was unfukinbelievable. Guess who had brand new distribution systems. Every pole was 2005 or newer, and guess who had leaning poles and were still bustin their own asses to rebuild their homes. The nice weathly neighborhoods had the new power poles and already sitting comfy right? wrong. The shyt right next to the projects down there were all redone. You should see the pretty little houses they built these poor folks that just had old shotgun shacks. No, it wasn't much more, but it actually was a hell of allot nicer with not much more square footage. It's amazing how much someone that doesn't appreciate something can wreck it in no time. Then I get over to the nicer area, where the poles are dated old poles. Many leaning way more than safe, but MS Power simply said, "we can't afford to fix them." I got so sick of seeing elderly couples, Husband and Wife, gutting their homes, and busting ass to fix them. And it wasn't but a block or 2 over from the ghetto in some areas. But not one, not one fuking decent home had help. Every little shotgun shack, rebuilt. I would've liked to see who did the work. Did they drop the material off to the owners? nah, I don't think so. They were all done too similar. Rebuilt for 'em. I wonder who had insurance? duh, no shyt who had insurance, but for some reason, it didn't pay. But obviously, if you had none and lived off the government, you got your shyt rebuilt.

[Klash]

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You didn't answer the question and I knew you couldn't.
You couldn't back it up except with YOUR opinions. He never "claimed it" (your words) proposed bills to the house on moral superiority or ever verbally claimed he has "moral superiority to liberals". ALL supposition on your part. That makes it a claim you can't back up. Thank you for proving my point.

Ah, so your going with #2, confusing the matter.

I did answer the question; did you read my post or do you lack comprehension. There was no opinion in my reply; I merely integrated a number of facts to support my original statements. You can ignore them if you like but they are not my opinions. He is an adulterer, he is a pro-statist imposing force against those he believes are immoral and his moral code is contradicting - all of which I pointed out very clearly. He does believe he is morally superior. I take peoples actions and beliefs for what they are. Newt's actions and words DO claim that his moral beliefs are superior to that of liberals and to the degree that he thinks people should be coerced with government force - with his morality code being used as the standard.

[firstenrgy]

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I asked a specific question BASED ON YOUR WORDS and you couldn't answer twice. That equals no answer or an inability to admit that you wrote something untrue and still have produced nothing but your opinion.
I know newt, I've been in his presence numerous times,conversed with him at length and he has never used verbage as you claimed OR have I heard of anyone claiming he did. Produce that or there is no need to continue conversation on your biased opinions considering you try to pass them off as truth and fact.

[Klash]

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I don't care if Newt is doing you up the a$$. It doesn't change anything and I never stated he used "verbage" to express his moral superiority. I have presented very precise, articulate arguments that support my statements and I gave you a specific answer; you just don't like it. Most irrational people are like that though; they only see what they want. Liberals do the same thing.

[firstenrgy]

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Unlike you, I'll actually respond to what you wrote. I used the word verbage speaking of my personal conversations with the man. You keep saying that i'm avoiding the question. In phychology they call this projecting. I don't care about any of the other nosensicle bs you wrote. I asked you to back up were he claimed this (either verbally or in written form) and you haven't been able to. Here is your direct quote.

But Newt isn't the answer; he's been in D.C. forever, he's pretty far right when it comes to Christian values, he's had an affair but claims to have moral superiority to liberals (which makes him extra divisive). I think the guy is intelligent but he still advocates the premise of statism. He won't change our path, he'll just slow the pace and assault different rights.

The letters are made nice and large for you so might actually get it. Please get it on your own. I've wasted enough time.