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    "the single largest federal tobacco tax increase ever "

    Recession or not, I don't believe this increase will make people quit smoking.


    Smokers face a hit as tobacco taxes spike

    WASHINGTON – However they satisfy their nicotine cravings, tobacco users are facing a big hit as the single largest federal tobacco tax increase ever takes effect Wednesday.
    Tobacco companies and public health advocates, longtime foes in the nicotine battles, are trying to turn the situation to their advantage. The major cigarette makers raised prices a couple of weeks ago, partly to offset any drop in profits once the per-pack tax climbs from 39 cents to $1.01.
    Medical groups see a tax increase right in the middle of a recession as a great incentive to help persuade smokers to quit.
    Tobacco taxes are soaring to finance a major expansion of health insurance for children. President Barack Obama signed that health initiative soon after taking office.
    Other tobacco products, from cigars to pipes and smokeless, will see similarly large tax increases, too. For example, the tax on chewing tobacco will go up from 19.5 cents per pound to 50 cents. The total expected to be raised over the 4 1/2 year-long health insurance expansion is nearly $33 billion.
    Smokers are mulling their options.
    Standing outside an office building in downtown Washington last week, 29-year-old Sam Sarkhosh puffed on a Marlboro Light. His 8-year-old daughter has been pleading with him to quit, he explained, and he has set a goal to give up smoking by his 30th birthday.
    "I'm trying to quit smoking, and it could help," said Sarkhosh, an information systems specialist. "I don't think it will stop me from buying cigarettes every now and then, but definitely not as often." A friend who smokes Camels went out and bought four cartons in advance, he said.
    The tax increase is only the first move in a recharged anti-smoking campaign. Congress also is considering legislation to empower the Food and Drug Administration to regulate tobacco. That could lead to reformulated cigarettes. Obama, who has agonized over his own cigarette habit, said he would sign such a bill.
    Prospects for reducing the harm from smoking are better than they have been in years, said Dr. Timothy Gardner, president of the American Heart Association. The tax increase "is a terrific public health move by the federal government," he said. "Every time that the tax on tobacco goes up, the use of cigarettes goes down."
    About one in five adults in the United States smokes cigarettes. That's a gradually dwindling share, though it isn't shrinking fast enough for public health advocates.
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says cigarette smoking results in an estimated 443,000 premature deaths each year, and costs the economy $193 billion in health care expenses and lost time from work. Smoking is a major contributor to heart disease, cancer and lung disease.
    Public health officials are urging individual doctors and staff at telephone "quit lines" in every state to make the most of the tax increase by reaching out to smokers. But it's unclear how deeply the tax will cut into tobacco consumption.
    Eric Lindblom, research director for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, says he expects a drop of at least 6 percent to 7 percent among young smokers.
    Philip Gorham, who tracks the tobacco business for Morningstar, the investment research firm, said he expects an overall drop of 4 percent to 5 percent this year. What happens after that is less certain, especially as the economy recovers.
    "I would expect a road bump this year," said Gorham. "But these companies will still be extremely profitable. I still think they will make their return on capital by wide margins in the long run."
    Philip Morris USA, the largest tobacco company and maker of Marlboro, is forecasting a drop, but spokesman Bill Phelps said he cannot predict how big. Philip Morris raised Marlboro prices by 71 cents a pack early this month, and prices on smaller brands by 81 cents a pack. Other major companies followed suit.

    The pricing moves raised eyebrows. "That's nothing more than greed," said Kevin Altman, an industry consultant who advises small tobacco companies. "They weren't required to charge that until April 1. They are just putting that into their pockets."
    Responded Phelps: "We raised our prices in direct response to the federal excise tax increase, and people who are upset about that should find out how their member of Congress voted, and contact him or her."
    Some policy analysts have questioned the wisdom of boosting tobacco taxes to finance health care for children. They argue that the fate of such a broad program should not depend on revenues derived from a minority of the adult population, many of whom have low incomes and are hooked on a habit. The tobacco industry is also warning that the steep increase will lead to tax evasion through old-fashioned smuggling or by Internet purchase from abroad.
    But smoking control advocates such as Lindblom say tobacco taxes should be even higher. "There's a lot of room to go after cigars and smokeless," he said. "We are certainly hopeful that health care reform will include some more increases."
    Standing outside a Washington department store, attorney Margaret Webster, 42, puffed on a Marlboro Ultra Light and lamented the fact that the government is reaching deeper into her pocketbook. "I don't think we (smokers) like it," she said. "But I've heard so many people say they were going to quit when the price went up ... and they're still smoking."
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    Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

    The government sells it as motivation for a smokless, tobacco free movement. That's absolute bs. It is exactly what it is. Higher taxes. More money for the government. Throwing the "health insurance for children" in there is even worse. If it's broken down and told like it really is, it's then seen in it's true light. But the government doesn't want to sound sleazy.
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    • #3
      Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

      whatever...eventually, there wont be enough smokers left pay the tax amount they are looking for, so they'll turn to gas and alchohol
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      • #4
        Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

        you should see the raise on cigar, unbelievable
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        • #5
          Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

          why not tax everything that is unhealthy?
          Like a greasy hamburger tax to pay for all the lard as$es...how bout a soda pop tax too...just make it ridiculously expensive to eat shiit and be fat...lol

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          • #6
            Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

            I can't believe peeps pay what they ay now for cigs- Heck I quit when they hit $2.00

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            • #7
              Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

              I'm glad I've never been a smoker. Nothing will change except the fat cats in Government will get line their pockets with the money...

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              • #8
                Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

                This is how uneducated democrat supporters are. The democrats always say they are not going to tax the poor and they want to help them yet isn't the cigarette tax actually taxing the poor when you consider statistically that most smokers are in the uneducated and lower income bracket?

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                • #9
                  Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

                  Originally posted by 3sweeties View Post
                  This is how uneducated democrat supporters are. The democrats always say they are not going to tax the poor and they want to help them yet isn't the cigarette tax actually taxing the poor when you consider statistically that most smokers are in the uneducated and lower income bracket?


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                  • #10
                    Re: Smokers will be paying for health insurance for children

                    It is "politically correct" to stop smoking. But the cigarette tax pays for childrens healthcare. So if you stop smoking, does this mean you don't care about the children?
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