IT IS GO TIME!-Time For War

[gongshow]

Game on!!! go get er done USA!!!!

[x|Fluid|x]

Originally posted by TheGame1976
We are 2/3 of the UN and pay 2/3 of their expenses. If we left, the UN would collapase.

um..where are you getting this info?

[obscured78]

tthe UN seems to be a bunch of pussies if you ask me. I think Bush is doing a great job. He just has to many obsticles including the UN.

[gongshow]

Yah, I just saw on CNN how many wars, have broken out without the resolution, or whatever you call it from the UN...so it wont be the first time its happened.

[Irish Pride]

Originally posted by goliath.jr
This is some scary shit. I am left wondering what the long-term ramifications of the US ignoring the UN will be. One thing is for sure, Bush has succeeded in pissing off Russia, China, and France (who cares about France though). Russia has publicly stated that Bush’s decision is “a mistake”. You guys are so gung-ho over this war, I have to wonder if you are looking at the big picture. It is much more than simply the US vs. Iraq. This thing could easily swing into World War III. Bush’s decision has basically spit in the face of some of our allies. I’m sure they will take it to hart.

I am not against a war with Iraq at all. I am opposed to the way the Bush administration is handling it. Things could get VERY ugly.

Well, now China and Russia know not to fuck with us either. If they are not willing to make this world a safe place then they need to step aside and keep thei traps closed. British and spain are the only other Countrys with a spine IMO.

[iamdwalrus]

Originally posted by TheGame1976
Cuba is just a pain in the ass. Controlling that island would mean lots of money for the US.

I will whip this board into a frenzy...U-S-A!

I don't mean to rain on your parade but where will you draw the line. Will you stop at Iraq and and Cuba. What about Canada's untapped resources it wiill be very beneficial to Americans in 20 years or so when your fresh water reserves have dwindlied to a teardrop. What about China? Do you think it would be a great idea to invade them in 10 years since there's a large depot of natural resurces there unharnessed and haven't been exploited yet by the Chinese. Don't get me wrong I love America and what it stands for I have had some heated debates with colleagues and and people I barely know trying my best to defend America and its policy. My grandfather served in the Army during WW2, my uncles were officers in the US Navy, my cousin in California was sent somewhere in the Middle East( I can't sat where) a couple of months ago. And for what?

I am an American by heart, Welsh by birth and a Canadian by choice.

[TheGame1976]

We almost were sucked into a Nuclear war because the US was too loose on Cuba. BAY of PIGS? Cuba will fall and if you didn't catch the irony I was laying it on pretty thick.

[iamdwalrus]

Originally posted by TheGame1976
We almost were sucked into a Nuclear war because the US was too loose on Cuba. BAY of PIGS? Cuba will fall and if you didn't catch the irony I was laying it on pretty thick.

FYI, It was Kennedy's fault the Bay of Pigs invasion was a fiasco. It was all setup and planned well and then he lost his nerve because he thought that his popularity will go down. He listened to Bobby who was so inexperienced in foreign policy instead of listening to the members of the farm and the joint chief of staffs. First he ordered 15 planes and then 10 cut down to 5 until finally there where only two left to bomb the airfields. " Too loose on Cuba" who are you to dictate a sovereign country what to do. It's not like there weren't any nukes stored in the Philippines aimed at Russia,lol and China during the Cold War. Tit for tat. I didn't lay this one thick for your benefit since you might not grasp it. Education, something I pick up after high school.

BTW, my intention wasn't to get in to a flame war. Please don't hurt me.

[goliath.jr]

Originally posted by iamdwalrus
FYI, It was Kennedy's fault the Bay of Pigs invasion was a fiasco. It was all setup and planned well and then he lost his nerve because he thought that his popularity will go down. He listened to Bobby who was so inexperienced in foreign policy instead of listening to the members of the farm and the joint chief of staffs. First he ordered 15 planes and then 10 cut down to 5 until finally there where only two left to bomb the airfields. " Too loose on Cuba" who are you to dictate a sovereign country what to do. It's not like there weren't any nukes stored in the Philippines aimed at Russia,lol and China during the Cold War. Tit for tat. I didn't lay this one thick for your benefit since you might not grasp it. Education, something I pick up after high school.

BTW, my intention wasn't to get in to a flame war. Please don't hurt me.

Touche. Good post bro...

[grimek]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by iamdwalrus
I don't mean to rain on your parade but where will you draw the line. Will you stop at Iraq and and Cuba. What about Canada's untapped resources it wiill be very beneficial to Americans in 20 years or so when your fresh water reserves have dwindlied to a teardrop. What about China? Do you think it would be a great idea to invade them in 10 years since there's a large depot of natural resurces there unharnessed and haven't been exploited yet by the Chinese. [/QOUTE]

Don't get me wrong I love America and what it stands for I have had some heated debates with colleagues and and people I barely know trying my best to defend America and its policy. My grandfather served in the Army during WW2, my uncles were officers in the US Navy, my cousin in California was sent somewhere in the Middle East( I can't sat where) a couple of months ago. And for what?

I am an American by heart, Welsh by birth and a Canadian by choice.

How could someone get you right. This is double talk.

[grimek]

Originally posted by iamdwalrus
who are you to dictate a sovereign country what to do.

Uhhhhhh......this is what happens in war?

[TheGame1976]

I agree but whatever. If I post my opinion, THWE BOUNCER will ban me.

[rado]

Originally posted by pudgy
what did cuba do ? i love thier monte cristo cigars

yea I've had those myself, how about those Ashton Cigars...

[goliath.jr]

Originally posted by TheGame1976
I agree but whatever. If I post my opinion, THWE BOUNCER will ban me.

Why would he ban you?

[iamdwalrus]

Originally posted by grimek
Uhhhhhh......this is what happens in war?

LOL! We we were talking about Cuba, when did the US declare war on Cuba? :2gunsfiri