Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

[Klash]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

It is time to focus on REAL issues, not imaginary ones.

fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama's upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama's numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai`i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.


Obama's birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawai`i gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama's birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers require submission of a copy of the birth certificate to print a birth announcement.


By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obama's campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype. The internet release of the birth certificate via hyper-partisan website Daily Kos on June 12 before posting it on a campaign website was likely calculated to fuel the frenzy. This is Obama's Gramscian strategy designed to redirect the opposition down a blind alley. It was so successful that Hawai`i government offices found themselves inundated with telephone calls from mainland voters in the days before the November 4 election.
Since Hawai`i law forbids the release of birth certificates to anybody not authorized by Barack Obama or his family, Obama further fed the paranoia by choosing not to grant such permissions. A World Net Daily story claiming Hawai`i's Republican Governor Linda Lingle "sealed" the birth certificate is totally false. The governor's office has asked for a retraction. The forgery story was also boosted by video claims that Obama's Kenyan grandmother stated that Obama "is a son of this village" — a phrase which can have many different meanings.


For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to Mombasa, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai`i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawai`i's current Republican Governor Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr – among them US Rep. Neil Abercrombie.
In 1961, the roundtrip flight to Kenya would have been a very expensive, pointless, and time consuming epic journey for two starving students. Barack Obama Sr. had only been able to come study at UH Manoa with a free ticket on a donated charter flight with other Kenyan students.
Obama benefited from creating an opposition which seemed to be standing by the side of the road impotently pointing to a piece of paper as if it could stop 63 million voters from anointing their "chosen one." Birth certificate lawsuit plaintiff Phil Berg is a Democrat and whether he understands it or not, he has done great work on behalf of his party.



It is time for folks to stop being played by the Obama campaign and drop this counterproductive "phony birth certificate" nonsense. Obama opponents can find plenty of real material by focusing on the hard-left alliances, stated positions, personnel appointments and policy actions of the Obama administration and of the Democrat-controlled Congress.

He missed the fact that has led to the curiosity of the situation the birth certificate from Hawaii is a "live birth certificate" which implies he was already born and probably born over seas, when he received it. This guy is right that Obama could take care of this by presenting his birth certificate but I highly doubt this was some kind of intentional plan to distract people.

[firstenrgy]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

The writ was already filed and the judge agreed to the "failure to respond within 30 days will admit all allegation are true" Now before all the libs try to jump on this, he could have responded... We ask this honorable court to give us additional time... ANYONE could have wrote that and the liberal judge would have granted it. He still didn't respond.

[snickers1]

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is that would you like to see just because the guy you backed lost....
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Alright you are completely wrong here! It is not about Fuzo being upset because McCain lost. We both strongly supported McCain and worked very hard to educate people we knew and by doing so, they chose McCain over Obama. The thing Fuzo has a problem with is the lies that Obama has put out to the people just to win this election, and his associations with terrible people. If he was in fact born in Kenya, he would probably just have one of his sucker associates find a way to cover it up. In my opinion, he was very undeserving of being elected as our next president. May he only serve 4 years and that is all I have to say!

I think what you have said is great, but you have to admit the way things are posted it does make you sound very bitter, imo. As far as the educating part I think that is a great thing to do and you guys definately felt very strongly about the man you supported.

It reminds me of a teacher we had here in VA, she was a kindergarten, a teacher that was fired from her job, it was not because she was a bad person or anything like that it was simply because she taught by intimidating her students. You get no where by intimidating people to see your point or your message.

People do not respond well to intimidation. They just don't. I am willing to bet neither of you respond very well to that either.
Posting negative facts, some true some untrue, is really not a way of educating. It reminds of when I was kid, I am sure some other Catholics will understand this, and religion was spoon fed to us, it was not taught. We were not educated at all, we where just "told" you will do at this time or this will happen.
Plain and simple of it is, Obama won. If you have a legit argurment, then bring it and we will discuss it. Coming across mean and nasty will not educate anyone on anything.

I think your cause was heartfelt and good. The approach and the tactics were not right in my opinion. I think you guys are good people and have i enjoyed every part of this board. I have never thought any less of it or you guys. Fuzo has said when i leave the political form it is all behind me, I just hope that you guys feel the same even if some folks are on the left side of the fence or more in the middle.

[BABY1]

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What approach and tactics? And who is mean and nasty? I have never been referred to as that. I am also not speaking of educating in regards to anyone here. I am speaking about friends and family that we have at home. I don't think you know what we said to them, do you?

[6p6]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

this should be interesting?

[FUZO]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

[QUOTE=snickers1;872443]

I think what you have said is great, but you have to admit the way things are posted it does make you sound very bitter, imo. As far as the educating part I think that is a great thing to do and you guys definately felt very strongly about the man you supported.

It reminds me of a teacher we had here in VA, she was a kindergarten, a teacher that was fired from her job, it was not because she was a bad person or anything like that it was simply because she taught by intimidating her students. You get no where by intimidating people to see your point or your message.

People do not respond well to intimidation. They just don't. I am willing to bet neither of you respond very well to that either.
Posting negative facts, some true some untrue, is really not a way of educating. It reminds of when I was kid, I am sure some other Catholics will understand this, and religion was spoon fed to us, it was not taught. We were not educated at all, we where just "told" you will do at this time or this will happen.
Plain and simple of it is, Obama won. If you have a legit argurment, then bring it and we will discuss it. Coming across mean and nasty will not educate anyone on anything.

I think your cause was heartfelt and good. The approach and the tactics were not right in my opinion. I think you guys are good people and have i enjoyed every part of this board. I have never thought any less of it or you guys. Fuzo has said when i leave the political form it is all behind me, I just hope that you guys feel the same even if some folks are on the left side of the fence or more in the middle.

Maybe you think things sound bitter or nasty because thats just how you take it because your head is way up obamas ass so like ive said before your blind to it all. his policies his lies his promises that we have already seen arent going like he said. example, he said all students would get college with a 4k credit,well now you have to do community service a 100hours TO MAYBE BE ELAGIBLE to get it .seems he never said that while on the campaign trail did he, NO

[tn94z]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

My thinking is, with all of the stuff that he went through with the election and the 2 previous years...you don't think he can come up with a birth certificate?

[greattt]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

imagine, he loses presidency

[pincrusher]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

[QUOTE=snickers1;872443]

I think what you have said is great, but you have to admit the way things are posted it does make you sound very bitter, imo. As far as the educating part I think that is a great thing to do and you guys definately felt very strongly about the man you supported.

It reminds me of a teacher we had here in VA, she was a kindergarten, a teacher that was fired from her job, it was not because she was a bad person or anything like that it was simply because she taught by intimidating her students. You get no where by intimidating people to see your point or your message.

People do not respond well to intimidation. They just don't. I am willing to bet neither of you respond very well to that either.
Posting negative facts, some true some untrue, is really not a way of educating. It reminds of when I was kid, I am sure some other Catholics will understand this, and religion was spoon fed to us, it was not taught. We were not educated at all, we where just "told" you will do at this time or this will happen.
Plain and simple of it is, Obama won. If you have a legit argurment, then bring it and we will discuss it. Coming across mean and nasty will not educate anyone on anything.

I think your cause was heartfelt and good. The approach and the tactics were not right in my opinion. I think you guys are good people and have i enjoyed every part of this board. I have never thought any less of it or you guys. Fuzo has said when i leave the political form it is all behind me, I just hope that you guys feel the same even if some folks are on the left side of the fence or more in the middle.

when you talk about the teacher who was fired, why did you not mention that she was black and it was a white little girl she was intimidating just because the little girl felt mccain was the better choice?
i am so sick of all the talk about obama being the first BLACK president elected. lets face facts here, he was elected because of skin color and no other reason!!! he has no past history of actually running anything, he was voted into congress 140 days prior to starting his campaign run for president, he claims to be against the war in iraq from the beginning yet he was not in congress when the vote took place in 2002 that granted bush to go there,
he has associations with people who preach out against this country etc...

the birth certificate is not the only issue about his being a US citizen. remember that when he attended school in indonesia, they did not have dual citizenship so in order for him to attend his mother would have had to denounce his citizenship in the usa and had him become a citizen over there. this would make the hawaii birth certificate a mute point.

you also make the statement about how the country would riot if his election win was taken away but why should this prevent the truth from coming out? if he legally cant become president then that is the way it should be regardless of how the blacks in this country would act. should we not follow the rules just because an ethnic goup would create a big uproar?
i am also sick of hearing about how all these african americans voted for this election but never voted in the past. they are technically being racists by only feeling the need to support a black man but not feeling it was important in the past to vote??? if i voted for the white guy just because he was white, i would be labeled a racist would i not?????

[BABY1]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

[quote=pincrusher;872521]

when you talk about the teacher who was fired, why did you not mention that she was black and it was a white little girl she was intimidating just because the little girl felt mccain was the better choice?
i am so sick of all the talk about obama being the first BLACK president elected. lets face facts here, he was elected because of skin color and no other reason!!! he has no past history of actually running anything, he was voted into congress 140 days prior to starting his campaign run for president, he claims to be against the war in iraq from the beginning yet he was not in congress when the vote took place in 2002 that granted bush to go there,
he has associations with people who preach out against this country etc...

the birth certificate is not the only issue about his being a US citizen. remember that when he attended school in indonesia, they did not have dual citizenship so in order for him to attend his mother would have had to denounce his citizenship in the usa and had him become a citizen over there. this would make the hawaii birth certificate a mute point.

you also make the statement about how the country would riot if his election win was taken away but why should this prevent the truth from coming out? if he legally cant become president then that is the way it should be regardless of how the blacks in this country would act. should we not follow the rules just because an ethnic goup would create a big uproar?
i am also sick of hearing about how all these african americans voted for this election but never voted in the past. they are technically being racists by only feeling the need to support a black man but not feeling it was important in the past to vote??? if i voted for the white guy just because he was white, i would be labeled a racist would i not?????

FYI, that was originnaly posted by snickers, not me

[Dzone]

Re: Obama must present Birth Certificate to Supreme Court by Dec 1

yes, its interesting, but will be surprising if anything comes of it. At this point, I would say its much ado about nothing and will be forgotten in january. I could be wrong.