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  • #16
    Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

    Originally posted by FUZO View Post
    WELL I'LL POST WHY
    RAISING TAXES AND IF YOU THINK OBAMA WILL NOT RAISE TAXES TO THE MIDDLE CLASS THEN YOU JUST DONT KNOW THE HISTORY OF DEMOCRATS.GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE. TRIED THAT AND FAILED MISERABLY. RAISING THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX JUST A FEW HOW OBAMA WILL DESTROY AMERICA
    you may want to take a closer look at the tax plans of the candidates before you make a blanket statement like that. as both plans are currently positioned, obama's will lower taxes for single filers making less than $200,000 and for joint filers making less than $250,000. that encompasses not only the lower classes but the upper middle class as well. i (and you) will personally be taxed less under obama's plan than under mccain's.

    i do not agree with his proposal to raise the capital gains tax. but to say that will destroy america is a bit of a stretch. you could say that it will impact investments and private wealth building, but destroy america?
    so fresh and so clean clean




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    • #17
      Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

      you go phreak

      no one can predict the future, so an opinion of bad things to come is one thing, yet it is not reality

      bush will factually go down as the worst president in history


      as i've said to the libertarians for years, nix the liberty part and go too the FREEDOM Party, it is just a thousand times more powerful of a brand and representative of what it wants to do

      i gurantee you if you did a jay leno jay walking segment and asked ten people what does liberty mean, you'd get two who knew............go with freedom

      the libertarians need to learn marketing 101

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      • #18
        Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

        my final rant on taxes

        name me one business that is expected to pay it's employee's more money every year, take on more responsiblities through thousands of new laws to enforce, and cut it's revenues

        DC has a major problem, a 600 billion dollar budget deficit this year, biggest one yet

        if you have a job where the companies revenues where plummetting you know how things work, it's nevah evah pretty

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        • #19
          Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

          Originally posted by trip View Post
          my final rant on taxes

          name me one business that is expected to pay it's employee's more money every year, take on more responsiblities through thousands of new laws to enforce, and cut it's revenues

          DC has a major problem, a 600 billion dollar budget deficit this year, biggest one yet

          if you have a job where the companies revenues where plummetting you know how things work, it's nevah evah pretty
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          • #20
            Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

            Originally posted by Phreak View Post
            you may want to take a closer look at the tax plans of the candidates before you make a blanket statement like that. as both plans are currently positioned, obama's will lower taxes for single filers making less than $200,000 and for joint filers making less than $250,000. that encompasses not only the lower classes but the upper middle class as well. i (and you) will personally be taxed less under obama's plan than under mccain's.

            i do not agree with his proposal to raise the capital gains tax. but to say that will destroy america is a bit of a stretch. you could say that it will impact investments and private wealth building, but destroy america?
            Oh shit, I guess that means we will have our taxes raised since we are over the $250,000 income level.
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            • #21
              Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

              this is number 2 for the day...
              these threads just seem to keep going array...never stay on topic...lmao
              and i guess to keep in tradition...
              bigbad...youre posts are officially a joke seeing as how all you can seem to do is turn everything around to a ronulan, paultard theme..nothing ever even has to be said about ron paul yet you feel the need to shift everything that way anyhow...
              why bother?
              and before anybody says im getting upset about bashing ron paul..i could give a shyte less...but it should be warranted...not just out of the blue..thats just kind of childish..."stir the pot"

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              • #22
                Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

                liberalism is a mental disorder

                liberalism is why we have a united states of american, fuzo

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                • #23
                  Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

                  Originally posted by straydoglogic View Post
                  Cool Stray, I'll check it out.


                  Originally posted by bigbadexcursion View Post
                  honestly first Ilaughed bc it didnt say bigbad what do you think.

                  then I saw the new third party and laughed because a third party will never work. sure its nice to dream but it will never ever happen.
                  What will never happen? They won't win? They don't have to win to influence the political landscape. Ralph Nader is accused of costing Al Gore the election in 2000 by receiving 2.74% of the vote. John Kerry tried to appeal to those voters in 2004. Nader supporters can hardly be told they wasted their vote, when they had a noticeable impact on the 2004 presidential election. So, I'll ask again. What will never happen? Of course to answer this question will require you to think and articulate your beliefs, which up till now you have shown you are incapable of doing.

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                  • #24
                    Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

                    Originally posted by Klash View Post
                    Cool Stray, I'll check it out.




                    What will never happen? They won't win? They don't have to win to influence the political landscape. Ralph Nader is accused of costing Al Gore the election in 2000 by receiving 2.74% of the vote. John Kerry tried to appeal to those voters in 2004. Nader supporters can hardly be told they wasted their vote, when they had a noticeable impact on the 2004 presidential election. So, I'll ask again. What will never happen? Of course to answer this question will require you to think and articulate your beliefs, which up till now you have shown you are incapable of doing.
                    hey hey!!! no making good points and posting logical arguments...wtf do you think this is? you....you , rontard!!!
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                    • #25
                      Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

                      Originally posted by bigbadexcursion View Post
                      honestly first Ilaughed bc it didnt say bigbad what do you think.

                      then I saw the new third party and laughed because a third party will never work. sure its nice to dream but it will never ever happen.
                      thats too bad cuz it needs to happen. Every 4 years its the same thing. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils

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                      • #26
                        Re: new political party..klash check this out and give me some thoughts

                        Originally posted by trip View Post
                        liberalism is a mental disorder

                        liberalism is why we have a united states of american, fuzo
                        If we are going by what the term "liberalism" represents today, then America would have never been free. The term "liberalism" doesn't' stand for any kind of freedom today but an ideology that is constantly justifying reasons why we should sacrifice them.

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