Phelps?

[Dzone]

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lmao!! ok..
ronnies gifted too fuzo...
lance armstrong o2?...ok. yea, he's ALOT like him...thats MY point
dzone, scalley, horse...there's shyt being made right now that wont get detected for YEARS!!!
do i KNOW he's on something?...no. do i think he is? yes! do i care? no. do i think that would take away from his acheivements? no...most of those other athlete's are on stuff too!

LOL...How do you know? No matter what, there is a chain of supPlliers before it gets shot into someones ass and if those suppliers are ever discovered, he is F-U-C-K-E-D.

I just saw his mom talking about him being ADHD as a kid and he got bullied bad cuz he looked so strange as a kid...He was a goonie...lol

[bgpittbull81]

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just plain gifted is all......

[horsepwr]

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I'm sure there are chemists out there around the world that are working on, and/or already have the new next best undetectable thing. Do I know that he's not on something? no. Are there people that come along once in a while that can dominate others with straight natural ability and determination? yes. Could this be one of those instances? yes. Do I feel like it is? yes. In all the doping cases in the past, male or female, you can just look at them and tell they were jacked. Like that runner, what's her name...I don't know, she's doing time for the shyt right now, but take a look at some of the shots of her coming across the finish line. One look and you can tell she was jacked. The swimming that Phelps does is a hell of a lot more of a workout than a wind-sprint, and he just doesn't have the look that one can't hide when their juicing. imo

[Dzone]

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Just curious, but what exactly is the "look" that one has when juicing? I have heard some people claim that they can look at someones face and know 100% that they are on roids. Bill Phillips said that many times.

[horsepwr]

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I don't know about the face. I've heard people say that too. but I do know some folks that get chipmunk cheaks very easily. They're probably just referring to the puffyness. As for the "look" of someone on steroids. You can look around the gym, and tell the guys that have trained 20yrs naturally, and the guys that juice, and just see the diffference...usually. Of coarse that's not a 100% application.

I would imagine an athlete that trains like Phelps would be noticable.

This topic reminds me of the De La Hoya/Vargas fight in '02, I think it was. I said several times during that fight that Vargas looks like he's hit some juice. Then at the end of the fight, DeLa Hoya said, "man he hits hard". A couple weeks later the results of Vargas having winny in his system were released.

[kite]

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I wouldn't dout it for a second. I seriously doubt it's aas, but prolly along the lines of what Armstrong was supposedly on, something that increases red blood cells and boosts aerobic output tremendously. Aas wouldn't help him much imo.

[daved150]

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LOL...How do you know? No matter what, there is a chain of supPlliers before it gets shot into someones ass and if those suppliers are ever discovered, he is F-U-C-K-E-D.

I just saw his mom talking about him being ADHD as a kid and he got bullied bad cuz he looked so strange as a kid...He was a goonie...lol

how do you know he's NOT??!!

[956Vette]

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I cant imagine he is taking any banned substances

[daved150]

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I cant imagine he is taking any banned substances

banned now, banned five yrs from now who nows...i dont take anything away from the kid...he's awsome for sure!

[6p6]

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I'd say he is probably using something thats tweaked and won't be discovered, just like the majority of athletes competeing. He's an incredible athlete though.

[Dzone]

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He competed in Sydney in 2000 @ the age of 15 and came in 5th. So he was a freak at a younf g age.
People comparing him to michael jordan or tiger woods? that is ridiculous..Micheal phelps competes in a sport where it is possible to win numerous gold medals. Lebron James and kobe Bryant get one medal...to say he is a better athlete than them is ridiculous. Lets say swimming gave out just ONE gold for all around just like gymnastics. If that were so, we wouldnt be having this conversation.

[T-Man007]

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I know he doesn't use because not only does he submit to the Olympic testing but he's part of a year round voluntary testing organization that test him very often and without notice. He said he signed up to do this years ago after all the crap Lance Armstrong went through. The testing by this other organziation is tougher and more often than the Olympic requirements. There is no way he could stay on anything long enough to get any benefit from it because of how often he is tested. The dude is 6'4" and has the perfect physic for swimming. Also, he has broken 24 world records solo.....which is the exact same number Spitz has broken. The difference is that training techniques these days are superior to what they were....and yet....he is only tied with what a guy did some 30 years ago. The dud also has a size 14 foot which is basically like having flippers on. His body is perfect for swimming, it's just that simple. Also, he trains like crazy and eats something like 14,000 cals a day. Each workout he does burns over 4,000 cals, that's what makes him the best. The guy has too much integrity to cheat. Just look at the Sydney Olympics, he could raced in the final relay and tied Spitz with seven Gold medals. Instead, he gives his spot to a team mate. If the guy was going through all the trouble it would take to avoid getting a positive test, do you really think he would have done something like that? He's a freak of nature at his sport, just like that Bolt guy from Jamaica. Think about it...a dude that is 6'4" running that fast.....it's just not normal. Both of these guys are perfectly made for their sport.

Also, let's not forget, there were more records crushed in this Olympics in swimming that in the last two combined. The Chinese made the pool large enough for 10 lanes, even though there are only eight swimmers. This, plus the new suits, comtributed to so many records being crushed. Just watch, if the next pool is not this size then all the records at this even will still be standing. The wider pool did in fact make the water faster, so that makes a guy like Phelps even faster.

[T-Man007]

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He competed in Sydney in 2000 @ the age of 15 and came in 5th. So he was a freak at a younf g age.
People comparing him to michael jordan or tiger woods? that is ridiculous..Micheal phelps competes in a sport where it is possible to win numerous gold medals. Lebron James and kobe Bryant get one medal...to say he is a better athlete than them is ridiculous. Lets say swimming gave out just ONE gold for all around just like gymnastics. If that were so, we wouldnt be having this conversation.

I'm going to disagree with you because Labron, Kobe, Wade and several other basketball players were all interviewed and they all referred to him as one of the greatest athletes ever. You aren't looking at the whole picture. This guy didn't win all these golds swimming freestyle, he swam butterfly, freestyle, backstroke and breastroke. These are all different styles and different lengths of races. It would be the same as one man winning the gold in the 100m, 200m, 400m 100m hurdles, 800m, 4x100m relay, etc. No man has ever done such a thing. As a matter of fact, no man has even been good enough to be one of the best in the 100m and the 400m. It's too different things. Yet, Phelps can keep with the best from the shortest distance to the longest, that's the difference. Most humans are not built for both speed and endurance, he is. He is a freak of nature.

[Klash]

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I'm not discounting the fact he is a tremendous athlete but when someone is dominating at such a degree against the World's Greatest Athletes - somethings up, e.g. Marion Jones (and I still think Michael Johnson was doping in the 2000).

I'm pretty cynical when it comes to athletes and doping; I don't think the fact he volunteers for drug testing means anything. If an athlete had access to designer drugs that couldn't be detected, I think that would be a smart move. Look at Marion Jones she was outed by Conte and had already passed her Olympic drug tests and won her gold medals (she had designer $hit).

I don't see a financial risk to doping, I think it's the other way around - the benefits outweigh the risk of getting caught.

Hell, I don't care whether people dope or not because I think the majority of them do; there is just too much to gain from improving their individual recovery time, strength and endurance but I don't think most of them have access to designer $hit that is undetectable and when someone does you get results like Phelps, Marion, and Michael Johnson. I wouldn't take it to the bank but I think more than likely - he's doing banned $hit.

[quirkysmilin]

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They say that his feet twist at an angle at his ankles that make his feet like flippers. Our bodies are all so different......didn't he get busted for a DUI a few years back in Maryland?