ron paul on iran

[bigbadexcursion]

Re: ron paul on iran

They're not committing legal genocide - they are defending themselves. "Palestinians" want the destruction of Israel; they don't want a Palestine - they already have it, it's Jordan.

You appear to be really intelligent Klash. Its true if they wanted their own country they could have had it fifty times already but they dont. They want it all. Remember folks with that comes big responsibility that their people are not ready for anyways so I think its best that they dont have a state. I say give them a state then declare war after the first suicide bombing or racket is fired into their homeland.

How would we respond id mexico and canada were performing raids killing and capturing soldiers on our country and dealing with missiles fired into washington and texas from them along with suicide bombings on our civilians? I guarantee we would not be as restrained as Israel is on a daily basis.

Any the Ron Paul thing is a given for me as I dont like his ideas of what he stands for and there is a lot of hate that comes from his supporters.

[bigbadexcursion]

Re: ron paul on iran

Remember this statement in the future when my "buzz words" are dominating your arguments.

negative, I will suggest alternate hydration options with you since you Kool Aid appears to be tainted.

[bigbadexcursion]

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and there was no such thing as isreal till the 60's...and theyre commiting a legal genocide on the palistinians..and dont lump me into a group simply because i support someones ideals...you dont know me...if you want to get educated let me know..cuz it sounds like you may be in need of it...

The 60's? lmao dude I will gladly send you a copy of an encylopedia if you promise to not make yourself look that retarded again.

I have socks with a higher IQ than you....

[bigbadexcursion]

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Under a president with libertarian principles our military would not be thinned out all over the world. This would make us stronger.

I disagree here. Remember WWII? Staying out of the worlds problems never got us or the world anywhere. Granted it sucks being the worlds police force but that is why I say we evict the UN and quit bullshitting with them. We are the only ones who act and often when we do in their place we are condemned. Failure to act during WWII cost how many lives? Isolationism=fail

So sitting this one out for now only makes this problem one of our sons, little brothers and nephews.

[Klash]

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You appear to be really intelligent Klash. Its true if they wanted their own country they could have had it fifty times already but they dont. They want it all. Remember folks with that comes big responsibility that their people are not ready for anyways so I think its best that they dont have a state. I say give them a state then declare war after the first suicide bombing or racket is fired into their homeland.

They already have their own country. The British Mandate sectioned off Israel for the Jewish-Palestinians and Trans-Jordan for the Arab-Palestinians. There is already a "Palestine" and it is Jordan.

[Klash]

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I disagree here. Remember WWII? Staying out of the worlds problems never got us or the world anywhere. Granted it sucks being the worlds police force but that is why I say we evict the UN and quit bullshitting with them. We are the only ones who act and often when we do in their place we are condemned. Failure to act during WWII cost how many lives? Isolationism=fail

So sitting this one out for now only makes this problem one of our sons, little brothers and nephews.

We should not provide security for any foreign country with American blood or money - that does not have our own national interest at stake. I do not support isolationism but I also don't support American tax payers and soldiers fitting the bill for another country.

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The 60's? lmao dude I will gladly send you a copy of an encylopedia if you promise to not make yourself look that retarded again.

I have socks with a higher IQ than you....

sorry it...i had the years wrong..they were recognized in 1948...
and save you personal attacks and insults for somebody else you piece of shyte..you dont know me or shyte about me...i dont give a phuck who you are or what youve done...you can have an intelligent conversation without trying to belittle someone else...so basically what im saying is go phuck yourself...
and fuzo i appologize for this but his comments were uncalled for...

[FUZO]

Re: ron paul on iran

IVE GOT A FEW PM'S ALREADY AND MADE A POST. LETS ALL STICK WITH FACTS AND NO MORE NAME CALLING PLEASE. WE CAN DISAGREE TO DISAGREE THATS IT.THIS IS FINAL. NO MORE NAME CALLING.

[Phreak]

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all you war hawks who are gung ho for iran----

you think gas is expensive now??? wait until israel attacks iran, or the us opens up a third front over there. gas will be $10 a gallon.

israel runs a military exercise- speculators raise the price of crude $8

iran test fires 1 missle- speculators raise the price of crude $9

now, imagine where it will go should there be a conflict with iran. our economy will crumble under $300 barrels of oil. you will not be able to put gas in your car. you will not be able to afford to feed your family. any of you who commute to work will start losing more than you make. the value of the american dollar will fall even further.

you all better pray that israel does not attack iran, and that ****sucker for a president we are stuck with for another 6 months can be kept in check. if it happens, we will all personally suffer on a level none of us have seen before.

[straydoglogic]

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finally a voice of reason...good call phreak

[trip]

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yeah, join the ranks of reason and rationality

war what is it good for, death and destruction

[Klash]

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all you war hawks who are gung ho for iran----

you think gas is expensive now??? wait until israel attacks iran, or the us opens up a third front over there. gas will be $10 a gallon.

israel runs a military exercise- speculators raise the price of crude $8

iran test fires 1 missle- speculators raise the price of crude $9

now, imagine where it will go should there be a conflict with iran. our economy will crumble under $300 barrels of oil. you will not be able to put gas in your car. you will not be able to afford to feed your family. any of you who commute to work will start losing more than you make. the value of the american dollar will fall even further.

you all better pray that israel does not attack iran, and that ****sucker for a president we are stuck with for another 6 months can be kept in check. if it happens, we will all personally suffer on a level none of us have seen before.

Your forgetting a couple variables. If Israel strikes Iran, America will have her back but this won't be an assault comparable to Iraq - there will be no ground invasion. Iran will be left impotent within a week, if that long, and the strait of Hormuz will be stable, probably bringing the price of oil down. A strike on Iran would probably benefit the western civilizations.

When you don't do what is right because of the risk - that is a lack of integrity. We didn't ask for a dictator who doesn't recognize even the most fundamental of human rights to threaten those civilizations that do with WMD's. We have not provoked a war with Iran - they have provoked one with us and the sooner we get it over with the sooner our economy will de-pressurize.

Yeah, Bush is an idiot and has mismanaged the war in Iraq but to associate all war with the stubbornness of Bush in Iraq, is a major error in judgment.

[Klash]

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yeah, join the ranks of reason and rationality

war what is it good for, death and destruction

so what do we do trip, act as pacifist! Self-defense is not irrational and to claim it is - is suicidal.

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Re: ron paul on iran

Klash man,

I do not nor will I ever in my life believe in war.

I do not nor will I ever believe in being a pacifist.

[Klash]

Re: ron paul on iran

Klash man,

I do not nor will I ever in my life believe in war.

I do not nor will I ever believe in being a pacifist.

If you don't believe in war; then you are a pacifist. If you don't' believe in pacifism then you believe there are times for war.

Distinguish for me how your first sentence does not contradict the second one?

If you believe in self-defense - then war is not always up to you and therefore should not be seen as immoral.