McCains Speech (Vide) The world's worst speech EVER

[straydoglogic]

Re: McCains Speech (Vide) The world's worst speech EVER

i love all the talk of experience and mccain accomplishing so much...apparently my posts dont get read...lol...yeah..he accomplished leaving his sick wife for a nurse that was an heiress to budweiser..sure he accomplished crashing a plane and selling out a bunch of his fellow soldiers...getting better treatment for doing so..lets try this again...

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

http://www.stopjohnmccain2008.com/

http://www.nojohn.com/

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24771

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFDc4M_PMNk

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/John_McCain.htm

http://www.dumpmccain.com/index.php

http://nowaymccain.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiUV6...eature=related

wake up people...at LEAST check one of these links...

[straydoglogic]

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war hero..please..

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_declassified_landing.htm

[Deno]

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What I do not like about McCain

+ Wanting to continue the war and leave troops longer.
+ Having the same philosophy like George W. Bush that's why they get along nowdays.
+ His economic, medical, and all other thoughts is what I don't like.

And FUZO, saying Obama would make our country weaker ?? HOW SO ?? By pulling out the troops too early ? and leaving other country to deal with their own phucking problems. IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS TO BABY SIT NOONE...so leave those IRAQIs alone...FOCUS ON USA...AND ONLY ON USA... to me that is a GOOD LEADER..and this is where OBAMA owns McCain.

Bush wanted to make our country stronger and more safe and look what he did. He did more harm than good.


I can tell you one thing. If McCain gets elected what will/could happen:

- Troops will stay in Iraq and this whole BS will continue for another decade or so.

- McCain will seek to deploy more troops
- As we continue this war on "terrorism" our economy will get weaker and weaker..
- By 2010 gas prices will be 8$ a gallon.

- I don't see ANYONE in the world wanting to cooperate and do any kind of business with McCain.

- Venezuela will NOT give us OIL for cheap.
- No other middle eastern country will give us oil for cheap.

- As this economic problems grows, we will have more crimes in our own country.

- The entire nation will be doomed and people that voted for McCain will be mad because they voted for him just like many Republicans who voted for Bush wish that they never voted for that SOB.

FUZO, I understand that you support McCain and that is fine.

You do know that our country is VERY MESSED UP RIGHT NOW right ? You do know that we need to somehow get out of this HOLE and start to build our economy again from scratch. We need to do OTHER things that benefit us instead of making sure that Iraqi's are safe from holly jihad and other BS.

How would you like if someone from another country came to US and started to tell you WHAT TO DO, how to run your life, what you can and cannot do ??

So that's why Obama uses that word CHANGE....

I don't see any CHANGES happening with McCain.


FUZO, you want your daughter to grow up and have a bright future right ? You don't want her living in a country that is SO MESSED up in every single possible way.

I think many of you bros that have kids need to think about them and their future. Many of you lived it all up and its their time to have a bring future in a country where economy is right, jobs are available and safe and crime rate is low.

That's my 2. cents.

[BABY1]

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What I do not like about McCain

FUZO, I understand that you support McCain and that is fine.

You do know that our country is VERY MESSED UP RIGHT NOW right ? You do know that we need to somehow get out of this HOLE and start to build our economy again from scratch. We need to do OTHER things that benefit us instead of making sure that Iraqi's are safe from holly jihad and other BS.

How would you like if someone from another country came to US and started to tell you WHAT TO DO, how to run your life, what you can and cannot do ??

So that's why Obama uses that word CHANGE....

I don't see any CHANGES happening with McCain.


FUZO, you want your daughter to grow up and have a bright future right ? You don't want her living in a country that is SO MESSED up in every single possible way.

I think many of you bros that have kids need to think about them and their future. Many of you lived it all up and its their time to have a bring future in a country where economy is right, jobs are available and safe and crime rate is low.

That's my 2. cents.

Understanding your points, as you are entitled to your opinion, Both Obama and McCain represent change. Some people like Obama's ideas some like McCain's. It is clear thet Obama can make a great speech and tell the people what they want to hear, as politicians do. He uses the word "change" quite often and in this day, that is what the people want. His visions again are somewhat unrealistic and he speaks of so many changes that I don't believe any one person can achieve. His circle of friends, amongst other things, also makes people skeptical of him.

As far as our daughter, of course we want the best future and opportunites for her. I think that is what every parent wants. Our parents felt the same way for us and we do have more opportunites than them, but I wouldn't say the world is better now than it was back then. Obama is just a person like you and I and does not have the capability to "change" the world. He says in his speech that " Americans are compassionate people", yeah right, we know that is not true of everyone. If we were all so compassionate, than we would understand why we do engage in helping other countries. He talks a good talk, but I personally think he is full of it.

[daved150]

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Experience doesn't mean jack in reality. If the house and senate don't want a bill passed, it's not going to pass. He just needs a strong cabinet to assist with the policy making. The change Obama is after is getting rid of corporate influence in the policy making via lobbyists and stopping the dem. vs rep. fiascos that hold up legislation from getting passed. Besides that there isn't much else he can change.

ok...ofcourse you gotta admit...an EXPERIENCED person has more of a chance at putting together a good cabinet. i would also say, some EXPERIENCE in working with the house and senate will have more of a chance wrangling things around in regards to them. it's hard for me to discount experience when it's used by me and everyone here on the daily bases. it goes hand in hand with respect. i wouldnt respect your opinion on anything unless i felt you were speaking from experience and knowledge in that subject. example: i would GREATLY respect your opinion on losing weight and getting tight over byrons!! you speak from experience. he could regergatate somethng from someone else and it could even be correct, but i dont respect him in that regards...i respect you more!
getting rid of corporate influence? dude....that aint happening. if i TRULY believed he could fix just that one aspect of the political game....i'd vote for his ass tomarrow! he's owned as much as the rest of them.

[FUZO]

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STRAY I DID CHECK OUT MOST OF THOSE SITES AND THERE ALL ANTI MCCAIN SITES MAN THATS IT DUDE.AND I THINK YOUR GETTING KINDA PERSONAL BECAUSE YOU HATE A MAN YOU HAVE NEVER MET,WISHED DEAD ECT. YOU SAY HE SOLD OUT HIS AMERICANS STRAY DUDE THATS THE FARTHEST FROM THE TRUTH. HE WAS SHOT DOWN STRAY AND TORTURED FOR YRS BUT HEY YOU HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT. HE'S A WAR HERO STRAY.

[FUZO]

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AND DENO 2013 IS WHEN THE TROOPS COME HOME DENO READ A LITTLE BIT MORE. TAKING OUT SADAAM THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS SAFER OR DID YOU FORGET HE KILLED AND RAPED WOMEN HIS OWN PEOPLE FOR OVER 20YRS.AS FOR CHANGES DENO I'LL NAME ONE AND MOVE ON. THE WAR IS AT A ALL TIME LOW RIGHT NOW THATS BECAUSE PRES BUSH USED MCCAINS IDEA FINALY AND IT WORKED.

AND LIKE I SAID IF YOUR FOR A WEAKER COUNTRY HIGHER TAXES GOV RUN HEALTH CARE WICH FAILED BEFORE VOTE OBAMA. I'M VOTING FOR A STRONG COUNTRY THAT PROTECTS OTHERS LOWER TAXES AND TO CHOOSE MY OWN HEALTH CARE.



THERE HASNT BEEN A ATTACK ON THE USA SINCE 911 BUT I GUESS YOUR OK WITH BUILDINGS FALLING DOWN AND PEOPLE GETTING KILLED BY THE TERRIORISTS AND JUST TO GIVE THEM A PASS WICH OBAMA WILL DO. HMM LET ME GO MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND SAY HEY CAN YOU NOT BLOW UP OUR BUILDINGS PLEASE,OK THEN A HAND SHAKE. THAT SIMPLE HUH

[straydoglogic]

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a war hero doesnt turn his back on his fellow soldiers to recieve better treatment from the enemy..and yes there were alot of anti mccain sites i posted but i also posted his voting record which is very inconsistent..youre right i hate the guy and my opinion may be biased...though i dont support any of the candidates running...the fact is that hes not the war hero that the media has made him out to be...yes he was shot down and that sucks..but what about the other four planes that he crashed? he wasnt fit to be a pilot and only was due to his connections..he finished at the bottom of his class at the naval academy..

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down."

that doesnt sound like a war hero to me...

[FUZO]

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OH GOD STRAY THATS ALL HEAR SAY MAN. YOUR JUST DISCOUNTING WHAT HE HAD BEEN THROUGH THATS ALL. THATS THE HATE COMING FORM YOU. YOUR GOING TO FIND EVERY NEGATIVE ABOUT HIM AND BELIEVE THE LIES. WICH IS YOUR RIGHT TO IF YOU WANT

[straydoglogic]

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bro...LOL...tell me how this is heresay when it came out of the book that HE wrote!!!!...LMAO...

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

[FUZO]

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YES ALL POWS GIVE THEM THERE NAME RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER STRAY. WHAT YOU POSTED DOESNT SAY ANYTHING HE TURNED ON HIS COUNTRY AT ALL. AND ALSO SO WHAT IF HE TOLD THEM WHAT HE WAS GOING TO BLOW UP TO BAD HE MISSED. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO BUY THE BOOK.


YOUR TRYING TO DIG DEEP WICH ISNT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. MCCAIN IS RUNNING AND THE GENERAL ELECTION IS HERE.


POLLS RIGHT NOW ARE JUST ABOUT DEAD EVEN. AND THE OBAMA SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER LEAD SHOULDNT HE. OOPS HE DOESNT

[Deno]

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AND DENO 2013 IS WHEN THE TROOPS COME HOME DENO READ A LITTLE BIT MORE. TAKING OUT SADAAM THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS SAFER OR DID YOU FORGET HE KILLED AND RAPED WOMEN HIS OWN PEOPLE FOR OVER 20YRS.AS FOR CHANGES DENO I'LL NAME ONE AND MOVE ON. THE WAR IS AT A ALL TIME LOW RIGHT NOW THATS BECAUSE PRES BUSH USED MCCAINS IDEA FINALY AND IT WORKED.

AND LIKE I SAID IF YOUR FOR A WEAKER COUNTRY HIGHER TAXES GOV RUN HEALTH CARE WICH FAILED BEFORE VOTE OBAMA. I'M VOTING FOR A STRONG COUNTRY THAT PROTECTS OTHERS LOWER TAXES AND TO CHOOSE MY OWN HEALTH CARE.



THERE HASNT BEEN A ATTACK ON THE USA SINCE 911 BUT I GUESS YOUR OK WITH BUILDINGS FALLING DOWN AND PEOPLE GETTING KILLED BY THE TERRIORISTS AND JUST TO GIVE THEM A PASS WICH OBAMA WILL DO. HMM LET ME GO MEET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND SAY HEY CAN YOU NOT BLOW UP OUR BUILDINGS PLEASE,OK THEN A HAND SHAKE. THAT SIMPLE HUH

9/11 was an inside job, only a child doesn't get that. So I wont even mention 9/11.

And what I put in BOLD...

It was NOT OUR BUSINESS going after Saddam. Again, we went to someones elese country telling them how it should be RUN... I wonder why didn't anyone else go after Saddam...

I don't want to hear shyt like OH USA ONLY HAS THE POWER AND MONEY AND BALLS...BULL****... GERMANY...FRANCE...SWITZERLAND...SWEDEN..JAPAN...N ETHERLANDS...AND OTHER WELL DEVELOPED EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE THOUSAND TIMES STRONGER THAN THE US RIGHT NOW... but they minded their own business.


You don't see AL-QAEDA making threats and videos about blowing up Germany buildings or some other countries... Spain wanted to **** around and they got their train bombings done... and they pulled out..now they don't have problems..

You dont see these terrorist ever mention blowing up something in Sweden or France or any other country but US...why because other countries mind their own phucking business and we don't./

[FUZO]

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ARE YOU HIGH RIGHT NOW BY SAYING THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE A STRONGER MILITARY POWER THEN US DENO. DID YOU FORGET WE ARE A SUPER POWER DENO. AND DENO I'LL LET YOU DO THE SEARCH ON WHO WAS WITH US IN THE FIGHT WHEN IT HAPPEN GO SEARCH DENO.

[Deno]

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ARE YOU HIGH RIGHT NOW BY SAYING THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE A STRONGER MILITARY POWER THEN US DENO. DID YOU FORGET WE ARE A SUPER POWER DENO. AND DENO I'LL LET YOU DO THE SEARCH ON WHO WAS WITH US IN THE FIGHT WHEN IT HAPPEN GO SEARCH DENO.

Fuzo, no offense bro but this is the same exact mentality that got us in trouble in the first place this macho man BS... we are the power of the world.

Sure our military is tough, sure our military is also equipped with the highest technology available today...

DID YOU ALSO KNOW THAT, THAT SAME MILITARY THAT DEFENDS US OVER THERE RIGHT NOW ARE AT LEAST 60% OF 18..19 YEROLDS WHO GOT REQRUITED STRAIGHT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.. OR THE SAME SOLDIERS WHO ARE YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED NEVER HELD A FIREARM BEFORE...THE SAME SOLDIERS THAT CAME OUT OF BROKEN FAMILIES.. CAME FROM THE GHETTO WANTING A BETTER LIFE..AND INSTEAD THEY COME BACK IN A COFFIN ??

I KNOW KIDS FROM MY AREA THAT DIED IN IRAQ..YOUNG 20 YEROLDS THAT HAD TOUGH LIFE IN THE US WANTING TO ESCAPE THEIR FEARS AND THEY GO OVER THERE THINKING IT WILL BE LIKE PLAYING WAR GAMES ON XBOOX 360 AND THEY COME BACK IN A COFFIN.

Please don't talk about our powers. If it wasn't for these illegal immigrants from mexico and other legal aliens working for $9-10$ here in the states WE would probably be ranked high as Romania or Kosovo.

[straydoglogic]

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fuzo...i know what we are required to give the enemy bro..im well trained in the matter..lol..but we are NOT supposed to give information pertaining to where we are, what we're doing or ANYTHING BUT or rank and serial number..the simple fact is that no offense bro..i dont mean this in any derogatory manner..but..i feel that you are disolusioned and are simply defending this guy so wholeheartedly because you dont want to be wrong and admit that this guy is a shady azz kat...im not simply against this guy..hes just a topic of discussion..i dont agree with the other candidates either..but no one here is as die hard a supporter as you..nah mean?