Bush as President?

[Klash]

Re: Bush as President?

u folks act like there have never been terrorist before in the world

a war on two year olds, that is what we declared, if u really think 100k idiots can control the destiny of 6 billion folks, 3 billion who go to work everyday to make ther lifes better, i have a war for u, the war on weather

weather has killed 100 times more people than terrorists the last 7 years

that's logic

Bro, I don't support the slogan or the idea of the "war on terror" but I still believe that the U.S. should wage war against specific terrorist organizations who declare war against the U.S. or attack us. I also think if a nation makes an agreement with us to disarm and they don't and/or can't provide evidence of that disarmament then they should experience a military assualt. Neither one of those positions require a support for a general "war on terror".

[daved150]

Re: Bush as President?

u folks act like there have never been terrorist before in the world

a war on two year olds, that is what we declared, if u really think 100k idiots can control the destiny of 6 billion folks, 3 billion who go to work everyday to make ther lifes better, i have a war for u, the war on weather

weather has killed 100 times more people than terrorists the last 7 years

that's logic

100 TIMES MORE PEOPLE???!!! where do we find this "weather" bro?...just let us know and we'll nuke it's ass back too.....some non weather place or something

[trip]

Re: Bush as President?

u folks act like there have never been terrorist before in the world

a war on two year olds, that is what we declared, if u really think 100k idiots can control the destiny of 6 billion folks, 3 billion who go to work everyday to make ther lifes better, i have a war for u, the war on weather

weather has killed 100 times more people than terrorists the last 7 years

that's logic

[daved150]

Re: Bush as President?

seriously disagree. It will be how history is written not how we perceive right now. Ever read a history book from another country? If you have you know what I mean. What we know about history can be controlled and usually centers around military issues as more time elapses.

he won't be listed as the best thats for sure but we truely have had worse but put it in perspective of fighting terrorism and I think he actually will have a place in the history books for his aggression after 9.11

well...i guess your right. i guess it also depends on WHO writes the history books. i'll remember him as a terrible manager with a poor choice in players on his team....still dont think any history books will be able to paint him in a very good light.

[Klash]

Re: Bush as President?

I think history will view Bush as slow-to-adapt and stubborn. He did the right thing going into Afghanistan and he did the correct thing striking Iraq but he failed to adapt fast enough to the enemy. He lost the will of the people, any possible legacy and possibly the war. If we retreat from Iraq and Iran absorbs part of it, we might have to go back and that will be partly do to his initial failures.

His stubborness and failure in Iraq gave leverage to the Democrats and Bush bowed to their demands and so he is a failure domestically too by not limiting government but growing its scope and size.

I think a couple hundred years from now, societies will look back on this time and things like the "patriot act" will be made fun of, along with the "new deal" but the presidents that will go down in history as the catalyst for throwing America in to statism will be Franklin Roosevelt (FDR) and maybe Woodrow Wilson; (in a couple hundred years) Bush will only be remembered and referred to because he was in office during 9/11. America and the world wants to forget about Bush as fast as possible and given the next president won't be much better/or any better - they will.

We live in very intense times and until the populous figures out we have got to start combating problems with logic - nothing is going to change but the name of the guys in congress and the white house.

[Dzone]

Re: Bush as President?

did anybody see 60 minutes last night? what do You think of the thousands of Iraqis who helped the USA as interpreters, etc and now they are being executed and tortured and we are not helping them at all. They are trying to get out and come to america. One guy went home and found his dogs head on his porch with a note saying "Youre next". he went to the americans to ask for help and was told "Sorry, we cant help you" What a disaster this war has been.

[straydoglogic]

Re: Bush as President?

hey fuzo..i posted a movie today and in the very beginning it shows a short bit of what we did to iran...just watch the first 6 minutes or so...

http://www.uaff.us/declinethemovie.htm

[straydoglogic]

Re: Bush as President?

another thing with iran is that we spit in their face..they offered to help us with iraq and we refused their offer...

[FUZO]

Re: Bush as President?

LET ME EDUCATE MYSELF ON THAT FROM 1978 AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU. I CANT RESPOND BECAUSE I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN IN 1978

[trip]

Re: Bush as President?

fuzo,

in 1978 we tried to overthrow the iranian government


do you think they stil harbor ill will towards that

do you think they might think we are the terrorists, cause we actually factually did try and overthrow there government

and we tell em, u must do this that and the other thing before we talk too you

i don't know how others view life and think, yet, in my book this insane thinking

[straydoglogic]

Re: Bush as President?

you think its bad now wait and see if mccain is elected...we're in big trouble then...but im sure i'll end up writing you from iran..no worries...

[pigmeat]

Re: Bush as President?

I can not agree on all the things President Bush has done. No one ever will.
But if you think it is bad now, just think what it would have been like if Gore had of won in 2000 or Kerry in 2004
That is something I don't even want to think about.

agree 1000%

[bowbow]

Re: Bush as President?

I don't know about history but in my book he is the worst and will remain that way.

[horsepwr]

Re: Bush as President?

I can not agree on all the things President Bush has done. No one ever will.
But if you think it is bad now, just think what it would have been like if Gore had of won in 2000 or Kerry in 2004
That is something I don't even want to think about.

now that is a statement! fully agree...can you say socialism?

++1

Kerry is way the fuk on the outer left banks...socialism indeed...but that's the way of the democrat. He even scared democrats. Democrat Bush haters even voted Bush over Kerry. I know 3 that did. One is a family member. (by marriage of coarse) he's confused,lol...even his daughters and ex-wife are Republicans. One of the daughters is my wife. But he was in the doghouse because his wife now is a left winger that actually voted for Kerry...she's a sweetheart though. Me and her get along great. She's just one of those true dems that believe we should be nice to the bad people and that the rich people should share.

[horsepwr]

Re: Bush as President?

I think it all depends on the outcome of the middle east over the next few generations. Wheather democracy prevails or fails, and if the extreme mindset that breeds terrorists subsides to a great minority over the next few generations. Because those are the elements that Bush set out to eliminate, and to set in motion a higher state of understanding across the globe. There is a president in the history books that had a very similar presidential term in a few aspects. He was hated greatly during his time by many just as Bush is hated now. And, of coarse, there were those that adored and admired him for the causes he faught for, and for setting in motion the higher state of understanding that he did. Which is where we are today generations later. But in his time, he took a bullet in the head for what he started and stood for.