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    Spy-in-the-sky drone sets sights on Miami By Tom Brown
    Tue Mar 25, 8:08 PM ET



    MIAMI (Reuters) - Miami police could soon be the first in the United States to use cutting-edge, spy-in-the-sky technology to beef up their fight against crime.


    A small pilotless drone manufactured by Honeywell International (HON.N), capable of hovering and "staring" using electro-optic or infrared sensors, is expected to make its debut soon in the skies over the Florida Everglades.

    If use of the drone wins Federal Aviation Administration approval after tests, the Miami-Dade Police Department will start flying the 14-pound (6.3 kg) drone over urban areas with an eye toward full-fledged employment in crime fighting.

    "Our intentions are to use it only in tactical situations as an extra set of eyes," said police department spokesman Juan Villalba.

    "We intend to use this to benefit us in carrying out our mission," he added, saying the wingless Honeywell aircraft, which fits into a backpack and is capable of vertical takeoff and landing, seems ideally suited for use by SWAT teams in hostage situations or dealing with "barricaded subjects."

    Miami-Dade police are not alone, however.

    Taking their lead from the U.S. military, which has used drones in Iraq and Afghanistan for years, law enforcement agencies across the country have voiced a growing interest in using drones for domestic crime-fighting missions.

    Known in the aerospace industry as UAVs, for unmanned aerial vehicles, drones have been under development for decades in the United States.

    The CIA acknowledges that it developed a dragonfly-sized UAV known as the "Insectohopter" for laser-guided spy operations as long ago as the 1970s.

    And other advanced work on robotic flyers has clearly been under way for quite some time.

    "The FBI is experimenting with a variety of unmanned aerial vehicles," said Marcus Thomas, an assistant director of the bureau's Operational Technology Division.

    "At this point they have been used mainly for search and rescue missions," he added. "It certainly is an up-and-coming technology and the FBI is researching additional uses for UAVs."

    SAFETY, PRIVACY CONCERNS

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection has been flying drones over the Arizona desert and southwest border with Mexico since 2006 and will soon deploy one in North Dakota to patrol the Canadian border as well.

    This month, Customs and Border Protection spokesman Juan Munoz Torres said the agency would also begin test flights of a modified version of its large Predator B drones, built by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, over the Gulf of Mexico.

    Citing numerous safety concerns, the FAA -- the government agency responsible for regulating civil aviation -- has been slow in developing procedures for the use of UAVs by police departments.

    "You don't want one of these coming down on grandma's windshield when she's on her way to the grocery store," said Doug Davis, the FAA's program manager for unmanned aerial systems.

    He acknowledged strong interest from law enforcement agencies in getting UAVs up and running, however, and said the smaller aircraft particularly were likely to have a "huge economic impact" over the next 10 years.

    Getting clearance for police and other civilian agencies to fly can't come soon enough for Billy Robinson, chief executive of Cyber Defense Systems Inc, a small start-up company in St. Petersburg, Florida. His company makes an 8-pound (3.6 kg) kite-sized UAV that was flown for a time by police in Palm Bay, Florida, and in other towns, before the FAA stepped in.

    "We've had interest from dozens of law enforcement agencies," said Robinson. "They (the FAA) are preventing a bunch of small companies such as ours from becoming profitable," he said.

    Some privacy advocates, however, say rules and ordinances need to be drafted to protect civil liberties during surveillance operations.

    "There's been controversies all around about putting up surveillance cameras in public areas," said Howard Simon, Florida director of the American Civil Liberties Union.

    "Technological developments can be used by law enforcement in a way that enhances public safety," he said. "But every enhanced technology also contains a threat of further erosion of privacy."


    ...........................So it looks like all of you that told Solidground he was nuts when he referred to dragonfly sized surveillance cameras, were wrong. He was right.

    I know some lame excuse is in order though because noone can ever admit there wrong. People are man enough to admit there right, but never man enough to admit they're wrong, when sufficient proof is given.

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    Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

    Originally posted by DJDIGGLER View Post

    ...........................So it looks like all of you that told Solidground he was nuts when he referred to dragonfly sized surveillance cameras, were wrong. He was right.

    I know some lame excuse is in order though because noone can ever admit there wrong. People are man enough to admit there right, but never man enough to admit they're wrong, when sufficient proof is given.
    I don't remember his post about it. And I don't believe I ever busted his balls about it. But I'll say it was a good call if he did say they had these little spy planes. Or, are they spy bugs? Whatever.
    I did bust his balls when he said John Wilkes Booth was cryogenically frozen by the Freemasons and was used as the 3rd man on the grassy knoll 100 years later.
    And I may have busted his balls when he said Obama spelled backwards is Amabo, which is a secret galaxy owned by the Freemasons just past the planet K-Pax in the solar system Travolta.
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      Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

      I've never seen a 14 pound dragonfly. Have you? And like I said in the other thread; I wouldn't doubt somebody has/is working on something like the "dragonfly camera". I do, however, doubt it is anywhere close to capable of maneuverability, in outdoor conditions, to operate effeiciently. Oh, and the little dc power issue. Which is also apparently why there's no mention of actual flight and/or use of the dragonfly-sized UAV.

      Interesting article though.
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        Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

        i remember...i also did not doubt it. i also love how you've gotten to the point where you just take a swipe at everyone at the end of your post's lately. i'm sure you wont stop doing it and will have some kind of come back to justify why you do. (there....i had to see if it works)
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        • #5
          Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

          its the only way he can get someone to argue with him anymore, dave!
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            Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

            Re-read what I wrote at the end of this post. I was merely making a point that those that consistentely call BS on everything, and stir up the pot, never can man up and say "I was wrong". I man up whenever I'm wrong.

            Plus, if you read it, it wasn't a blanket call out. It was specifically those that called BS on this subject.

            As for my other callouts lately, it's been to those that again consistentely stir crap up anytime I post. It's one thing to have a differing opinion, and debate in a civil manner. But the way it's been lately it's anything but fun.

            Read the following thread where Solid originally mentioned the dragonfly. Also take notice how the debate was much more civil. http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/s...ight=dragonfly

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              Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

              Originally posted by pigmeat View Post
              its the only way he can get someone to argue with him anymore, dave!
              Right, because I can't wait to argue with people. Notice how little I sign in anymore. That's because I'm tired of people flaming, and just acting like little high school clicks.

              The only reason I even posted this thread was because I remember everyone saying "It's impossible" yet they admit the CIA has been using them since the 70's. Have you seen how much technology has advanced in the last almost 40 years? Now don't tell me you don't think something they used in the 70's isn't drastically improved nearly 40 years later!?

              ****...computers are outdated on a bi-yearly status now. 40 years is leaps and bounds with technology. Logic should tell you that one.

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                Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

                its been pretty peaceful,lol
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                  Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

                  big brother is capable of lots of cloak and dagger sh it but if they don't want you to know about it, you'll never see it so the fact that it's a "fact" on the internet automatically makes me suspect bs.

                  pigmeat, it HAS been pretty peaceful recently eh?
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                    Re: Solidground wasn't nuts...Dragonfly UAV's

                    Originally posted by BigDawg View Post
                    big brother is capable of lots of cloak and dagger sh it but if they don't want you to know about it, you'll never see it so the fact that it's a "fact" on the internet automatically makes me suspect bs.

                    pigmeat, it HAS been pretty peaceful recently eh?
                    really!
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