Truth about vaccines...

[horsepwr]

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You can phuck straight off with that comment. As a child I did see a few different counselors. That's where I was diagnosed with ADHD. The difference is even with ADHD I'm leaps and bounds ahead of most. I was given an IQ test as a pre-teen & teen, and scored "Genius and my brother scored above average".

I could care less what you, or a few other people on the internet think of me.

You know what's truly amusing?! The fact you just assumed a doctor told me I had ADHD, and that was it. Actually I was diagnosed from my counselor. I went through counseling for many, many years. My problem was I was always super hyper. They also found I would zone off when I was bored, or something wasn't a challenge which is why my parents had me put in a much more advanced prep school. They diagnosed me with it because I was always getting in fights, I wasn't able to control my temper, and I was EXTREMELY hyper. It had nothing to do with being slow, like you associate it. That's the difference yet again. You just make conclusions to things with no factual basis.

I think alot of my acting out with fights was due to my parents divorce, and then being cut off from every last relative because of my dad's grudge against my mother, her family, and his own family. I had a pretty f'd up childhood but came out on top. My psychologist thought that's where most of the outlashes were from. But the diagnosis of ADHD was mainly due to my hyperactivity, and being that I had been hyper my whole life even before my parents split, he said the hyperactivity couldn't be attributed to the split, neither could the lack of focus when bored.

You don't understand shyt for being so bright. That wasn't a comment "genius", that was a question. The reason I asked is because I hoped that you had seen or are seeing a psych for a disorder such as that. Goes right along with my statement about people being diagnosed incorrectly so much these days by doctors that have no business diagnosing such disorders. Just because someone has M.D. by their name doesn't mean they're competant to diagnose all areas. That was genuine concern dj. Learn to use that enormous I.Q. and think before you speak. Or learn before you speak. whatever it takes. That's probabaly another reason you "got in so many fights." If you were in arms reach of me and spoke to me that way while I'm showing genuine concern and compassion for you then you'd be learning something right then. I ain't talking about violence either unless you wanted to really go that route, but you will learn to think before you speak to me that way budro.

[FUZO]

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THIS FORUM IS FOR DISCUSSION AND HEATED DISCUSSIONS BUT I WONT TOLERATE ANY SWEARING GUYS. CMON EASE UP TAKE A BREAK.AND BY THE WAY SHRINKS COUNSELORS OR WHAT EVER YOU CALL THEM DO HELP. I THINK EVERYONE CAN USE A GOOD LAYING ON A COUCH AND LETTING OUT WHAT THEY FEEL. NO ONE SHOULD BE ASHAMED ON SEEING ONE

[daved150]

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THIS FORUM IS FOR DISCUSSION AND HEATED DISCUSSIONS BUT I WONT TOLERATE ANY SWEARING GUYS. CMON EASE UP TAKE A BREAK.AND BY THE WAY SHRINKS COUNSELORS OR WHAT EVER YOU CALL THEM DO HELP. I THINK EVERYONE CAN USE A GOOD LAYING ON A COUCH AND LETTING OUT WHAT THEY FEEL. NO ONE SHOULD BE ASHAMED ON SEEING ONE

i agree...quit getting all fukin worked up....geez!! cant even talk without you tards getting out of control.

[horsepwr]

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I know!







I just had to throw that in there,lol

[PL456]

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dj dj dj.....

hmm...expose my kids to the possibility of mumps, measles, rubella, chickenpox, polio...or get a few shots? you guys ever wonder why these diseases arent seen anymore???? its because of IMMUINIZATIONS.

its amazing to me that you people would inject mail-order "gear" from who knows what country and who knows what lab into your body yet you'll believe these conspiracy theory websites and jeopardize your kids health.
What a noble move..you guys falling on your sword, throwing care to the wind in search of that physique you'll NEVER gain without lying,cheating, and breaking the law to get...yet, you do not allow your kids to fall into the dangerous world of childhood vaccinations..I salute you!

what about penicillin? what about jonas salks' immunizations against polio and all the lives that saved? what about all the immunizations the gates foundation are providing all over the world. The thimerasol that you guys fear so much has been used since the 1930's--where was the autism in those years?? Thimerosol was virtually eliminated in 1999. Its amazing how much more important your "philisophical ideologies" are to you that you'd put them above the health of your kids. yeah boys, careful with that whole American Academy of Pediatrics and Centers for Disease Control govt agencies---im sure theyre a bunch of money grubbers that are really controlled by BIG PHARMA and...lemme guess..GEORGE BUSH, right? check out the AAP's and CDC's position on vaccinations before your check out these fringe kook sites..and didnt I read just the other day that even MORE evidence against vacc's causing autism has emerged--(like any was needed)??

It takes a license to drive a car but, unfortunately, most anybody can bring a child into the world..

[Rolsroyce]

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all the non-required vaccines still have mercury. Only the required ones had it removed and it was just in the 90,s that it was done. Get your facts straight. The fact is no one knows if mercury/thimerosal aided in the cause of autism but the fact is that the autism rate is climbing in children 12-15 months old. You all are welcome to do what you feel is best to do concerning your kids and i will do the same. We all want the best for our future generations. I personally feel from the evidence i have read, that these shots that are lumped together versions of multiple vaccines are the reason for the problem. The children just are not developed enough to be able to withstand that concentration untill past age 4 when the blood-brain barrier is established. MMR and the like are the reason in my opinion. For your babies sake guys and gals please just read everything you can on the good and bad before exposing them to those things. Its easy to say you are protecting them from getting sick but what if yours is the one that ends up retarded for life from being exposed at such a young age. These babies are helpless and fragile. They need time to become strong enough to be able to deal with the stress that those vaccines will put their bodies and minds through. Be careful guys, its their lives we hold in our hands.

[horsepwr]

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That is true. If it was an adverse reaction from the ethyl mercury. The cases should have began with the start of vaccinations and climbed from there instead of showing face in the 90s.
I am beyond grateful to have a healthy family. We all have our little issues here and there, but things could be so much worse.
In the last 10 years or so, diseases have been wiped out in Africa by vaccinations. I wonder what the autism rate is over there.

"Of the more than 10 million children who die before reaching their fifth birthday every year, 2.5 million die from diseases that could be prevented with currently available or new vaccines."

In the past ten years or so, some diseases that killed hundreds of thousands across Africa have been wiped out by vaccinations. I wonder what the autism rate is over there. Bill Gates and the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization are really wiping out disease. We need to follow their process from 2000-2015 and see what results. 2000-2015 is the GAVI contract and timespan of action.

[pigmeat]

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dj dj dj.....

hmm...expose my kids to the possibility of mumps, measles, rubella, chickenpox, polio...or get a few shots? you guys ever wonder why these diseases arent seen anymore???? its because of IMMUINIZATIONS.

its amazing to me that you people would inject mail-order "gear" from who knows what country and who knows what lab into your body yet you'll believe these conspiracy theory websites and jeopardize your kids health.
What a noble move..you guys falling on your sword, throwing care to the wind in search of that physique you'll NEVER gain without lying,cheating, and breaking the law to get...yet, you do not allow your kids to fall into the dangerous world of childhood vaccinations..I salute you!

what about penicillin? what about jonas salks' immunizations against polio and all the lives that saved? what about all the immunizations the gates foundation are providing all over the world. The thimerasol that you guys fear so much has been used since the 1930's--where was the autism in those years?? Thimerosol was virtually eliminated in 1999. Its amazing how much more important your "philisophical ideologies" are to you that you'd put them above the health of your kids. yeah boys, careful with that whole American Academy of Pediatrics and Centers for Disease Control govt agencies---im sure theyre a bunch of money grubbers that are really controlled by BIG PHARMA and...lemme guess..GEORGE BUSH, right? check out the AAP's and CDC's position on vaccinations before your check out these fringe kook sites..and didnt I read just the other day that even MORE evidence against vacc's causing autism has emerged--(like any was needed)??

It takes a license to drive a car but, unfortunately, most anybody can bring a child into the world..

for the first time, you said a few things that actually made sense...

[mandarb11]

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Well I must add I have had all my kids vaccinated, the perceived risks of autism, etc. seem to be very slight compared to the much higher risk of known diseases. Again the actual stats would help to understand the risk, of which I have been unable to find.......Many drugs have very low risk factors of complications, if 1% of people that take it die but 99% are saved then that would be considered a good drug. I believe the stats on child vaccinations are much, much lower than that.

[McKenzie]

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I believe they are also being more lineate with the vacs in that they will give them separately at diff periods of time, instead of lumping them altogether as before to avoid illnesses, sides, etc.

[Klash]

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dj dj dj.....

hmm...expose my kids to the possibility of mumps, measles, rubella, chickenpox, polio...or get a few shots? you guys ever wonder why these diseases arent seen anymore???? its because of IMMUINIZATIONS.

So because the polio vaccination helped eliminate polio- all 48 doses of vaccinations for different diseases (all of which will contain a perservative; formaldehyd, aluminum, mercury and on top of that animal serum and modified disease) your kid will recieve before he weighs 50lbs are as equally beneficial and do not pose a risk despite the bulk immunization - which by the way has not been studied for safety and some vaccinations have had no studies on children as young as the recommended age of immunization.

Interesting thought: A six pound new born recieving a single inoculation would be approximately similar to a 180lb adult recieving 300 innoculations but a 6 lb infant should be able to handle all the foreign perservatives, animal serum and modified disease and then when it's 2 months old another inoculation for another eight diseases.

its amazing to me that you people would inject mail-order "gear" from who knows what country and who knows what lab into your body yet you'll believe these conspiracy theory websites and jeopardize your kids health. What a noble move..you guys falling on your sword, throwing care to the wind in search of that physique you'll NEVER gain without lying,cheating, and breaking the law to get...yet, you do not allow your kids to fall into the dangerous world of childhood vaccinations..I salute you!..

Obviously, I have come to a different conclusion than you on vaccinations but I do not question your love for your children and how you desire to have the best for them. I am not jeopardizing my kids health; I am doing what I feel is best for my children.

what about penicillin? what about jonas salks' immunizations against polio and all the lives that saved? what about all the immunizations the gates foundation are providing all over the world. The thimerasol that you guys fear so much has been used since the 1930's--where was the autism in those years?? Thimerosol was virtually eliminated in 1999. Its amazing how much more important your "philisophical ideologies" are to you that you'd put them above the health of your kids. yeah boys, careful with that whole American Academy of Pediatrics and Centers for Disease Control govt agencies---im sure theyre a bunch of money grubbers that are really controlled by BIG PHARMA and...lemme guess..GEORGE BUSH, right? check out the AAP's and CDC's position on vaccinations before your check out these fringe kook sites..and didnt I read just the other day that even MORE evidence against vacc's causing autism has emerged--(like any was needed)??

It takes a license to drive a car but, unfortunately, most anybody can bring a child into the world..

It's easy to pretend you have a superior position when your position is socially mainstream but you did not present any kind of data that supports your position to the degree to be able to suggest I am jeopardizing my kids health, being arrogant and ignorant. Before you imply such things maybe you should present a good arguement void of the dogma you like to inject into most of your posts.

I don't think the vaccine abuse is a conspiracy controlled by Big Pharm, I'm sure they have lobbyist pushing the issue in Washington but I wouldn't consider that a conspiracy. It's just government ineptitude mixed with good intentions. I think if they would just delay the inoculations till the children weighed more and gave each immunization a priority, instead of the immunizing because we can mentality - you would see immunization injuries decline.