FACT WMD

[daved150]

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I see you guys support bush LOL

nope....not anymore, but not entirely for the wmd issue. there's not really a argument there. i agree bush used it as an excuse to do what he wanted to anyways, but it's a fact he had them. it's a fact he denied inspectors.
now, why would he do that. i bet he wanted the world to believe he did infact have them! it'd help keep iran in check as well as any other enemies. he tried to bluff, and we called.
bush is a fuk up on MANY dif. level's!!! just a poor manager all together

[3Vandoo]

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LOL

you know what, he used to have them, the US knew it because they sold them, then went in and slap him on the wrist, bad bad boy, you used daddy's toy!!!!!!!!!!!

in the last time of GW2, weird Gulf War, = George W B, B 2nd letter LOL ok Art Bell shut up!

he didnt have anymore, and it was a fact every ****ing dumbass in the intel world knew. mostly they were all destroyed, but more he had restrictions and embargoes more the stock went down. Also dont forget 1 million iraqui died of US embargoes, a fact that the US refused to accept, but proven by many NGO and even the UN.

so he had MWD, so what, even canada has some with celine dion, since when countries cannot defend themselve on wait, when they have something someone wants... oh yeah!

ah funny when the biggest stronger guy in the school courtyard rules and changes the rules

[solidground]

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you know what, he used to have them, the US knew it because they sold them, then went in and slap him on the wrist, bad bad boy, you used daddy's toy!!!!!!!!!!!

lol exactly..we are the ones who armed iraq and bin laden (seperately).. but later on there was no proof whatsoever of wmd..watch the movie "uncovered the war on Iraq"...we need to stop the whole repub/dem thing they both are part of a higher gov't, just have different ways of pleasing them.

[daved150]

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i'm not arguing the fact that we supplied him with them...at the time it was iran vs iraq, and iran took us hostages so we backed, what we thaught, was the lessor of evils. i dont know that the WHOLE intelligence community knew he had none at the time....thats news to me.

[horsepwr]

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Like you said dave, he damn well wanted everyone to think he had them and why wouldn't he. He played his little game of hocus pocus and made himself look very suspect so we called his bluff. Our military sure expected a chemical attack for our intel to know there were no wmd. Nobody knew there were no wmd. That would be pure stupid to think you knew that there weren't any weapons of mass destruction to me.

Say a murderer is freed after 20 years and isn't supposed to possess a weapon. Then you see footage of him target shooting and killing people. The conclusion..He has guns. Then you go on his property and find spent shells and shells ready for reload, duh...Then a bunch of hocus pocus goes on. Well I would be waiting for gunfire coming at me, wouldn't you? Just like the troops that went into Irag expected chemical resistance.

It would be crazy to say you knew he had no wmd. He did and he got rid of them. Plain and simple. He thought the wussy Americans were gonna stand around and do nothing like always but uh oh, not on G.W.'s watch. His ass is grass.

[T-Man007]

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Here's how I see it....when he refused to let UN inspectors in the reports were popping up on CNN like crazy. I remember seeign areial photos of the there being a building with trucks being loaded and then hauled off and then the next day the building was gone and there was a buldozer. Now, we all know CNN is owned by Ted Turner, who hates Bush, so if he showed it, it must have been accurate. The problem was, we don't have the luxury of using satelites to follow the trucks and once they were out of site (probably Syria) they were no where to be found. Now, maybe this was all nothing. But, if it was nothing, why did so many Iraqi scientists admit to having chemical weapons that were kept in trucks for easy moving. These guys were happy to be free of Saddam and happy to finally tell the world how horrible he was. It never was about nukes, and that's what people thought, it was about chemical weapons that if Sadaam had the right rockets, could mess up a whole anywhere in Europe or Isreal or India. So, there was enough reason to go see.

If the guy had nothing, he should of let the UN look. If the guy had nothing, we was there so much movement and cover up? If I was in Bush's shoes and I had some dude in England's Intelligence telling me they know Sadaam has WMD and I seen the satelite images, well, I too would have had to see for myself too. After 9/11, I could not live with myself if I had the intel Bush had, did nothing, and then hundreds of thousands or even millions died from a weapon that Saddam used knowing I had the chance to stop him. I would rather have taken Saddam out and been wrong about the WMD than to have done nothing and been wrong about that. You see, if Bush had done nothing, and Saddam did have the weapons and used them, people would be blaming Bush for doing nothing when he knew there was something. Just like 9/11. Peoples say Bush knew, or at least the CIA knew, and they did nothing. You really think the guy is going to do that again, on a possible much larger scale? Hell know! After 9/11, I would have went in there too. However, I would have waited a little longer and planned it better but I would have went to see. No way would I want the blame of knowing Saddam had WMD and doing nothing. That's the choice the guy was faced with. Period. Do nothing and 'hope' or do something and take the bullet if you find nothing. It takes balls to do what he did. Clinton, that fuktard ***** let soldiers get killed in Bosnia and then pulled out. What a *****! He should have let them go back and take a few thousand of those fukers out for what they did to our soldiers. Bush on the other hand goes and does what he thinks is right despite the fallout and get's labeled War Criminal. What a bunch of crap. Saddam, ******, those guys were War Criminals.

[solidground]

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^ i know what your saying, i agree we should have 100% taken action in afghanistan and iraq to some extent..Maybe im idealistic but I am also a non interventionalist, although i do think sometimes we need to act in alliance with others to take out nefarious leaders..I think this should be done the old school way though, in small teams of highly trained individuals (not with our country's military, this should only be used to protect us from eminent harm and with congressional approval)..Get in get out, this way we don't waste lives, money and stay in a country we are not welcome in and nation build ect..With Iraq there was clearly other motives behind invading, otherwise we would have been out with in a year.

[daved150]

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^well...they should bring back government sponcered assasinations huh?

[solidground]

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sounds ****ed up, i didnt necessarily mean assasinations, just special forces.

[daved150]

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sounds ****ed up, i didnt necessarily mean assasinations, just special forces.

oh...ok. i might like the assasination thing better, lol

[pigmeat]

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bush is more of a war criminal then Sadam ever thought of being...the onl reason he gassed thekurds, was thy kept trying to assassinate him...cant blame the guy.Iraq needs a ruler like sadam...there would be no civil war there if he was still around

[FUZO]

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PIGMEAT BUSH IS STILL A AMERICAN AND GASSING THRE KURDS ISNT JUSTIFIED EVEN IF THEY TRIED TO KILL HIM.

[DragonRider]

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With Iraq there was clearly other motives behind invading, otherwise we would have been out with in a year.

I don't know. Why would you leave anyplace because a specific time limit has been met. If the job isn't finished, it isn't time to leave. No war has ever been won in a year.

[DragonRider]

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I see you guys support bush LOL

I'm a Bush supporter only in the sense that I believe God is using him as a tool to accomplish something God wanted to accomplish. I'm a firm believer that this as a war between God and the Muslim nations.

[DragonRider]

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bush is more of a war criminal then Sadam ever thought of being...the only reason he gassed the kurds, was thy kept trying to assassinate him...cant blame the guy. Iraq needs a ruler like sadam...there would be no civil war there if he was still around

This comes from Wikepedia. If you notice it continually referes to Iraq's offense against the Kurds and breaking peace treatys. Sadam's attacks against the Kurds have always been about ethnic cleansing.

Kurds in Iraq
Main articles: Iraqi Kurdistan and 1988 Anfal campaign
Kurds led by Mustafa Barzani were engaged in heavy fighting against successive Iraqi regimes from 1960 to 1975. In March 1970, Iraq announced a peace plan providing for Kurdish autonomy. The plan was to be implemented in four years.[43] However, at the same time, the Iraqi regime started an Arabization program in the oil rich regions of Kirkuk and Khanaqin.[44] The peace agreement did not last long, and in 1974, Iraqi government began a new offensive against the Kurds. Moreover in March 1975, Iraq and Iran signed the Algiers Pact, according to which Iran cut supplies to Iraqi Kurds. Iraq started another wave of Arabization by moving Arabs to the oil fields in Kurdistan, particularly those around Kirkuk.[45] Between 1975 and 1978, two-hundred thousand Kurds were deported to other parts of Iraq.[46]

During the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s, the regime implemented anti-Kurdish policies and a de facto civil war broke out. Iraq was widely-condemned by the international community, but was never seriously punished for oppressive measures such as the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians, the wholesale destruction of thousands of villages and the deportation of thousands of Kurds to southern and central Iraq. The campaign of Iraqi government against Kurds in 1988 was called Anfal ("Spoils of War"). The Anfal attacks led to destruction of two thousand villages and death of between fifty and one-hundred thousand Kurds.[47]