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Did anyone catch the show on History channel last night? It was pretty good, they laid out a boat load of theories and then pretty much shattered them, lol! It was really interesting.
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yeah, building #7 is intriguing. The video you see of building #7 burning does not show a huge hot burning fire, that would compromise the structure. I think the falling of two enormous building with tons of weight could impact the structure of buildings around it but then why was building #7 the only one to fall, considering it is probably one of the most recent built buildings. -
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Those two right there made me thing something was wrong with what the government was saying. How did they tackle that one??Originally posted by wolfyEVHComment
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The plane the hit the pentagon crashed through several layers of concrete and steel and was just ripped to pieces. There was another pilot who witnessed the crash, and a handful of eyewitnesses on the ground.Originally posted by wolfyEVH
Building #7 was severly damaged from debris falling when the towers collapsed which also started the fire. The fire was kept burning by diesel fuel in multiple generators as well as a feed from underground. They claim that it burned for over 8 hours and the the owner of the building feared for the safety of the fire fighters and called off efforts to put it out.
In all honesty some of what was said sounded like spin, but most made perfect sense. Some of the stuff conspiracy theorists have come up with is just plain nuts. As they point out in the doc, extraordinary claims require extrordinary proof.Comment
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here we go again... lets hear it..
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Yeah, no kidding and even when one of them make a good point - the next thing out of their mouth is so ridiculous it undermines their credibility; typically being "its a cover up by the Bush Administration" Their hatred towards Bush makes you wonder if the "good points" they made are even factual or just deception, e.g. evidence of demolition blasting caps on some of the steel pillars.Originally posted by kite View PostComment
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gonna have to check my tivo for this one....i missed itHE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!
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Unbelievable! Kite you did the typical non conspiracy theorist debate tactic which is .......AVOIDING WHAT PEOPLE ASK!!!
Wolfy asked how the plane can hit the pentagon and vaporized (which means there's literally nothing identifiable left of it) yet the bodies were found and identified? You just mention how it hit concrete and steel, where is you response to the bodies?
Also how come the government ceased the video of whatever it was hitting the pentagon from a nearby gas station owner and wouldn't release it's contents? If they want to prove it was a plane they should show the video they confiscated.
As for building 7 look at the picture I attached and explain to me how the other buildings weren't effected?
They were all closer yet the farthest building from the towers collapses?
Now last about your comments about the witnesses. Do you honestly think that those weren't padded stories to coincide with what they were told to say? You underestimate your governments power!Comment
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Lol, I didn't avoid his question. I'm not an appolagist for the US gov't so I ddin't make it a point to memorize all that was said. It was a two hour long show and I basically just remember the highlights. (too many years of parying to remember very much, lol!) Check out the show and tell me what ya tink about it. I couldn't find it on youtube, they're pretty cautious about the copyright infringement deal these days.Comment
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I love reading all of the conspiracy theorist debunking ideals, because 9 times out of 10 they are more far fetched than the actual conspiracy theory!Originally posted by kite View Post
The problem is most people don't look at things with an open mind. They will do anything they can to convince their brain that theirs no way they are living in a world where the people that are supposed to protect them, are actually doing the opposite. It's a hard pill to swallow, so most just ignore the obvious holes in the explanations given by our government.
Trust me I'd way rather find out I was wrong about the conspiracy theories, than find out I was right. If I was wrong, then the world in my eyes would be a much better place. Unfortunately it is plagued with greed for power and money, so it's a lot more believable that there was corruption behind all of this.
It's the same reason the Roman empire fell. Arrogance, Corruption, and Greed!Comment
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so DJ, whats your explanation for what happened at the pentagon. They come an gently place the bodies there?Comment
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Very simple either they were placed there (which is highly unlikely), or it's a padded story. Have you seen any footage that showed bodies? Have you seen any footage that shows plane parts everywhere?
What I did see was a 2-3 second vid released from the government that definitely doesn't show a plane hitting the pentagon, but more of a missle. It's a padded story in my opinion. Plus with technology in hollywood and such it's not to hard for them to construct a fake scene.
You need to realize the sheer power of our government before you start to realize it's not at all adding up. First off this is one of the most secure places on the planet, our nations military brain, and it doesn't have enough surveillance to show a clear, undisputable picture of a plane hitting the pentagon?
Do you think they don't have camera's covering covering every square inch of the pentagon and surrounding areas? The government has recently started to put camera's around major cities to monitor them, but your telling me they don't really monitor the pentagon???!!!
Lastly do you realize they can spot a piece of gum on the ground from outer space? Then why is it so hard to show video proof of this plane hitting the pentagon?
It's a BS padded story to romance the public into the idea of taking over oil rich countries (in the name of those that have fallen, oh yeah and for Iraqi freedom)! What a joke this is! It's sad so many are swooned so easily without questioning the obvious.
Watch the video and make your own opinion. I for one did not see a massive jet hit it!Comment
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You make it seem that a jet is made out of the same metal as a tank and that huge peices are just going to be laying around after a 550 mph crash with a series of brick walls at essential is a 90 degree angle. Look at TWA filght 800. There was virtually nothing left and it hit the ground at an angle which absorbed some of the impact.
We must realize that airplanes are made out of the same material as soda cans...Not M1's.Comment
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Correction...It was flight 103 not 300. Here are some photos that showed how little was left.
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All that was left is the front half of the ****pit. Thats it.Comment
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so DJ, you don't believe they placed the bodies, but you believe they shot a missile? So how do you account for that flight at the airport? How do you account for those passengers? The govt had time to cover all this within minutes? How could they account for possible eye witnesses? Did they find the plane at WTC? What happened to those planes? Or where they missiles too? Was the landing on the moon staged too? Who killed princess Diana? Where is Hoffa?
There's this single moron that stands on the subway with a laptop preaching his conspiracy. I swear I'm gonna walk up to this chump one day and piss all over him and his laptop.Comment
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