CAN YOU FORGIVE SOMEONE

[daved150]

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I think I would be more inclined to be mad at god as to why he would let something like that happen.

yea...thats the way i was..for YEARS!!!...the bad part is, it went around that my brother supplied her with the beer and was out drinking with them all day. the teachers at the school (he was a senior) all say he attended all classes. the girls brother went to my jr high. we had 1st hr together, and one day he started in on some bullshyt that my bro killed his sis...welp...thats all it took. i tried stuffing him out of the window of the third floor head first. if they didnt have new saftly glass windows added that year, i would of dropped him on his fukin head...had to do a little "theropy" for that one, but it was ok....

[Klash]

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Death is permanent. I would never forgive someone who killed someone I loved whether it was intentional or negligent.

I think we live in a society that puts to much emphasis on forgiveness. You here all the time that "not to forgive is self-destructive", "its not good to hold a grudge", "turn the other cheek", "forgive men their trespasses", etc.

I think many people, who claim to have forgiven immoral people are doing so because they think it is the right thing to do and/or it will provide some relief for their pain. I think forgiving anyone who has robbed you of someone you value is immoral. I don't see how holding resentment towards an immoral person is unhealthy, immoral or self destructive in any way. Obsessing about it could be wrong but not withholding forgiveness.

[daved150]

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Death is permanent. I would never forgive someone who killed someone I loved whether it was intentional or negligent.

I think we live in a society that puts to much emphasis on forgiveness. You here all the time that "not to forgive is self-destructive", "its not good to hold a grudge", "turn the other cheek", "forgive men their trespasses", etc.

I think many people, who claim to have forgiven immoral people are doing so because they think it is the right thing to do and/or it will provide some relief for their pain. I think forgiving anyone who has robbed you of someone you value is immoral. I don't see how holding resentment towards an immoral person is unhealthy, immoral or self destructive in any way. Obsessing about it could be wrong but not withholding forgiveness.

wow bro....you think alot (he's always thinkin!)

[Rolsroyce]

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I think I would be more inclined to be mad at god as to why he would let something like that happen.

god didnt kill them, why be mad at him?

[GBAGH]

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Also, in order to give someone forgiveness they have to come to you and ask for it. There is no rule anywhere that says that a man who is not truly sorry and a man who does not ask for forgiveness has to be forgiven.

[daved150]

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god didnt kill them, why be mad at him?

dude...i was 10. i was catholic, and my brother was my hero...in my mind, god had EVERYTHING to do with it...what does one tell a 10yr old that lost his hero..his idol...they tell him, "god needed him more..." sounds good on the surface, but i disagreed... I NEEDED HIM, not god...he was MY brother...he let me hang with him and his friends. if anyone objected, he said "fuk you", and we'd get up to walk away, and they'd trip over themselve's to get him to stay, becouse they wanted to hang with him. i was pissed for a very long time...really just made up with the big man in the last couple years....we put it behind us, and we're good now. but, unless, (and i pray it happens to no other kid, but i know it does everyday) it happened to you, i wouldnt really expect you to grasp the size of it...it was huge loss bro...crushed my world for years!! (i guess it still pisses me off a little, eh? lol)

[Rolsroyce]

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well I lost my mom to cancer when i was 10 so i can kinda understand but those grown ups shouldnt put it off on God saying he needed your bro more. That is their fault. Remember buddy, it either kills us or makes us stronger. I wasnt trying to get you upset buddy.

[daved150]

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well I lost my mom to cancer when i was 10 so i can kinda understand but those grown ups shouldnt put it off on God saying he needed your bro more. That is their fault. Remember buddy, it either kills us or makes us stronger. I wasnt trying to get you upset buddy.

lol...nooo, i'm not upset. just explaining how it came to be that i was pissed at god...i agree. that's the worst thing to say to a kid!!!

[T-Man007]

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Intentional...NO!....Accidental (like a car accident or something), then yes.

[Testify]

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I could forgive if it was an accident, and maybe if the person was LEGITIMATELY sick wiht mental health issues. Murder . . . I'd like to think there is some kind of extenuating circumstance - and never say never - but I'm not sure I could forgive that. Hell, the accidental killing would be hard enough to forgive.