argh! enough is enough!

[daved150]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

I don't know now, because I can't forsee the future.

oh...let me help ya...there will be curroption on all levels at some point in all admin's. forever more, much like there always has been...it's just that NOW with computers and shyt, it comes to the surface more...so, you will get to continue leading others into your dark, dark hole of dispair forever more.....thats gotta make your day, huh buddy?

ron paul, if elected, will at some point, show even you, who owns him...they are all owned...they should wear sponcer patches like in nascar.

also, it should be very clear to you by now...i do not debate...i have niether the time, nor the intrest to properly prepair to debate you. no, thats not what i do...i have conversations with you in witch one of us, appearently, will twist the others words to see who comes on top...i'm just more honest in admitting this, and not trying to dress it up as some "debate" what we do is exchange opinions on politicle subjects, your opinions are loaded with info you gather from sources that back and probobly helped form your opinions...mine are opinions gathered mostly in the same way, but i dont have as much intrest in copy, paste, save tech. and dont feel the need to dig it up for a mere conversation.

i will continue to disguss things with you, for i find it fun and entertaining...as said by me before...i will continue to listen to what you have to say, read the things you spent your time in digging up (if anything, i'm not rude) and then disgard what i feel is bullshyt, and keep the stuff i cant spit up at a later date and time, that i feel fit.

oh, and no...you never SAID you hated this country...it was a little sarcasm that i KNOW your not opposed to! remember, benedict arnold was a patriot too! (just kidding buddy, dont get your panties in a bunch)

[Klash]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

This is my problem with the politics of this war:
Many politicians, on both sides approved the war on Iraq.
The legitimacy of the war does not lie with the failure or success' of the American intelligence agency. The whole reason it came to that is because a dictator was in non-compliance with the cease-fire agreement made with America.
The fact the CIA's intelligence was questionable and the fact we found no significant WMD's in Iraq is IRRELEVANT. Iraq had to prove to America, that WMD's had been disposed of - Saddam decided not too!

Now that the American public grows war weary, many politicians who originally approved of the war are now wanting to retreat, not reassess strategy but retreat. This is not leadership but cowardice. If the war was the correct course of action before the benefit of hindsight - it is still the correct course of action. With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to state, Saddam wasn't a threat.

Now the reasons we went to war and the way the war is being "marketed" are two different things. Both sides are focusing on variables that aren't even associated with why we originally went to war. We didn't go to war to free the Iraqi's, get oil or fight the war on terror. Those are not the reasons we went and it sucks our society is too ignorant or too weak kneed that we have to come up with reasons just to finish a war that many supported in the beginning.

When any nation goes to war; it should go to win. To win, America needs to broaden the scope of this war to those states supplying our enemy.

[daved150]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

This is my problem with the politics of this war:
Many politicians, on both sides approved the war on Iraq.
The legitimacy of the war does not lie with the failure or success' of the American intelligence agency. The whole reason it came to that is because a dictator was in non-compliance with the cease-fire agreement made with America.
The fact the CIA's intelligence was questionable and the fact we found no significant WMD's in Iraq is IRRELEVANT. Iraq had to prove to America, that WMD's had been disposed of - Saddam decided not too!

Now that the American public grows war weary, many politicians who originally approved of the war are now wanting to retreat, not reassess strategy but retreat. This is not leadership but cowardice. If the war was the correct course of action before the benefit of hindsight - it is still the correct course of action. With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to state, Saddam wasn't a threat.

Now the reasons we went to war and the way the war is being "marketed" are two different things. Both sides are focusing on variables that aren't even associated with why we originally went to war. We didn't go to war to free the Iraqi's, get oil or fight the war on terror. Those are not the reasons we went and it sucks our society is too ignorant or too weak kneed that we have to come up with reasons just to finish a war that many supported in the beginning.

When any nation goes to war; it should go to win. To win, America needs to broaden the scope of this war to those states supplying our enemy.

YEA!!! WHAT HE SAID!!!

actually, i feel like a total idiot for not bringing that up...that's the point i've made many times to people in convo. at my former work place, and it was the one thing that EVERYONE seemed to forget...including me now. he (saddam) brought this on himself and his people becouse he stopped the inspections...becouse he LOOKED like he was hiding something. i dont know if he did it to flex his political muscle, or so the iranians thaught he still was armed and wouldnt jack with him or a little of both...but, the fact is, he's used wmd's in the past. he's showed that it didnt bother him to use them, and there was legitamate fear that he'd use them again....NOW, i feel like the idiot...go ahead dj, egg it on!

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

I need the weekend off from this stress. I'll continue tearing you guys new ones on Monday.

[horsepwr]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

WORD!...lol. Well put guys. I was thinking the same thing Daved...why I didn't mention that I don't know.

Well said Klash.

[horsepwr]

Re: argh! enough is enough!

I need the weekend off from this stress. I'll continue tearing you guys new ones on Monday.

stress??? ahhh, come on...I would think you love your "debates".

Give us something. Oh wait, I know...I bet you have a massive amount of different media to go through to rebut Klash. Take your time.